I have a Nip It machine a guy wants fixed and has a $1k budget. The machine is in good condition externally, but internally it’s has moisture and mice chewing wires. The wires I can deal with, but is the rust fixable? Or where can I find these parts to replace or an entire internal board, etc.

Any advice would he appreciated.

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Kinda both, so I wanted to give it the college try. Ultimately he just wants a playable game, doesn’t mind the rust, etc.

Thanks for the recommendation. I’ll see if I can find some.

Exactly what I wanted to do was test the machine to see if I could get anything going before spending the hours on the rust. Does anyone have a “readable” schematic link? The one I found is too small to read after printing. I really appreciate the help on this and will be sure to update my progress as I go.

Found it at Walmart online and had my local auto parts store, O’Reilly, price match.

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So far so good.

For those of you that use the Evapo Rust, do you typically remove the parts and soak them or place paper towels over them while in the machine? I’m likely planning on pulling and soaking them, but time is money. Perhaps only the parts that are not functioning like the score motor?

Anyone have a good schematic for printing?

After the paper towels failed. It’s been sitting it a bath now for 13 hours, still tons of rust, been brushing it off every so often. I’ll check again tomorrow afternoon and report back.

I did the the scoring reel to finally start spinning, but the motor seems difficult to turn, better after oiling; hoping that’s normal?

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Very good advice on the PVC.

Anyone know how to remove the plastic dial the numbers mount to? I’m assuming I’ll need to hammer it out with a punch, after removing the circuit board? I’ve tried to pull it straight off, but it’s rusted and barely turns. Thanks.

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It’s slowly pulling off. Rust sucks.

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Not too bad.

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So I got the score motor running, but one of the rollers on a leaf broke off immediately. Anyone know were to find more or is it even repairable? I doubt it.

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Evaporust and wire brush on a drill.

More results.

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Backglass was lighting up before cleaning plugs, now nothing. Hmmm...????

It broke off one of the scoring reel leafs.

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The bushing on the motor was bad, so I was actually able to use a larger spring combined with the original spring to hold it in place in lieu of replacement.

I honestly don’t know? I know it’s installed correctly. Maybe it is and that caused the break? Can anyone verify?

Crap. Good call. Haha. Thanks! Hence why the roller likely broke. Rookie mistake. You’re the man!

Anyone have a pdf of the owners manual for Nip It? Seems to be hard to find.

Having trouble with the player unit sticking. It works fine when I move it manually, but it buzzes away when the machine is on. Does anyone have one they can share a picture of?

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Enjoy!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CLw0bNeFphbdHWdElbHSlgWDOoKj5d0i/view?usp=drivesdk

So after all the Restoration, this is where I’m at. If you could help direct me from here, I would appreciate it. The player disc buzzes when I try and start a game and the score motor just turns. Not sure where to go from here, I’m pretty new to EM machines, but you gotta start somewhere.

Yes, I agree the wipers are a bit off, but when I turn it manually to align the buzzing persists.

I could be mistaken. I can’t find a decent manual for this game and most parts aren’t labeled. Thanks.

Ha! This is my first EM... I already hate them. lol

I believe it still does it with the playfield unplugged, but I will take another look.

Thanks for your suggestions. I’ll post back soon.

Some progress... I found a short. Now I’m still working on solving why the score motor won’t stop turning. I think it has something to do with the Game Over relay??? Does mine look correct?

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Thanks... moving on to why the score motor won’t stop.

Can anyone tell me how this coin door is supposed to be wired? I’m having trouble understanding the schematic since there’s multiple coin switches and the schematic has Red/White and I have White/Red, but I’m assuming they ran out at the factory??? I only need one working. Thanks

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Score motor runs and runs. Hmmm???

Help!!!

Read it A-Z.

I actually unplugged the head to try and narrow the problem down because the score motor issue. Hmmm???

Is there a way to bypass the score reels?

The score reels are all at zero and the reset relays don’t engage unless I add points to the reel, then it gets reset to zero. I’m assuming it’s not the scoring reels based on this...???

1A is at D-20

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This is what I got from schematic for score motor.

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Looks right...???

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Found 1A at 15-B

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What actually runs the score motor and tells it to stop? Is it on the score motor leafs? I know there’s a reset sequence it does before stopping, but mine seems to go thru the sequence fine, but just doesn’t stop so I’m wondering if there’s something small I’m missing???? This machine is making me feel dumb.

The tilt switch used to stop the score reel, but now it doesn’t???

Yes, I can watch it open and close.

Delay is stopping score motor now...

Still won’t stop to start a game???

Yes

The bonus unit engages when I hit the credit button.
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I’m thinking the player unit isn’t resetting???

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#6 says the “with score reel and bonus stepper reset, the reset relay will de-energize and the score motor should stop.” I don’t see the player unit doing anything. I’m gonna focus on it.
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Not seeing anything about the player unit. #6 says the “with score reel and bonus stepper reset, the reset relay will de-energize and the score motor should stop.”

Anyone know what switch(es) on the score motor gives it power for this machine? The schematics are not easy.

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That’s interesting. I’ll try that and get back.

I tried several different springs. Nothing... on my machine originally the bushing held the motor in place, but the teeth broke off so that’s why I added the spring. Honestly, I don’t see it being able to be pushed in with the original bushing entact. I’m really thinking the issue is my player unit since it doesn’t seem to respond to anything.

I also have these wires that aren’t connected to anything. Does anyone have this machine that can verify?

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When I push the delay relay in, the motor does stop. Is this a different stop then? Very confusing.

I just noticed your motor is different or I’m understanding it incorrectly. My motor shaft doesn’t spin freely in the brass; it’s stuck in it. I’m assuming the brass piece is supposed to float in the bushing and the motor spins inside it?

As you can see mine is stuck on the spindle. I guess I need to figure out how to get it off without ruining the motor.

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Not too bad.

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Thanks for your help. What you’re saying makes perfect sense now that I understand the motor spins in the brass, the brass doesn’t spin the motor in the bushing. Derp!

I got it spinning freely in the spindle. Now I’m curious if anyone has a solution for the broken bushing teeth that hold in the brass bearing?

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Those teeth are supposed to keep the brass bearing in place. Hmm???

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Try one. Didn’t work. Spins much better now.

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Alternatively, does anyone know where I can get the bushing for that motor? This entire part in photo? Not sure if it’s called a bushing?

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1C - Hmmm?

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Good old eBay. Got it. Now I wait.

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In the meantime I’ll try some things.

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I think my washer fix actually works, it moves freely now, but it’s still not stopping. Hmmm???

The motor works great now, but still won’t stop. Going to try to add two washers as a spacer to compensate for the width of the washer in case it’s not allowing it to move left enough, etc.

Results... any other ideas?

Replaced score motor bushing. Motor runs great. Still won’t stop. Ugh! Any other ideas?

I’ve unplugged all the Jones plugs, replaced motor, and game still won’t stop. Any ideas where I should start now?

I’m assuming the issue must be in the score motor stack?

You’re the man. That schematic really helped me understand how it works; got it stopped. It turned out to be the 500 point relay. I had no idea all of those switches controlled the motor, but I do now. Thanks again!!!

Now I’m just down to a few easy problems.
It’s popping out two balls, so I’m assuming that’s an adjustment issue.

The EM pinball guide recommends using high tap and lots of waxing if you do. Anyone else have an opinion on this?

Not so much. I learned a ton though and got to restore an old vintage pin. I like Solid State, but I had so many people with EM’s, I had to try it.

Anyone have any ideas on how I could safely replicate this before I put it back out into the world? I keep thinking plaster of Paris, but I’m a little unsure since there’s probably better products these days??? Mostly worried about the paint. I’m just trying to make a mold I can cast into brass or some metal later.

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Thinking green sand or magic sand???

Anyone know what causes two or more balls to pop out?

Looks like I need to adjust the ball release relay to fix the ball release issue?

I adjusted the ball release relay but it is still randomly popping out multiple balls...??? Any other ideas???

This!!!

Great information. I agree 100%, especially with swapping out the flipper coils.

I’ve actually decided not to high tap this game since it’s actually working very well, but I’m still curious about it so I may try it for a few games to see the difference it makes. I’ll do a video of the before and after.

Great idea. I’ll try it.

Last thing I’m having trouble with is getting the 2nd Ball relay to engage. Does anyone know what triggers it? I thought the ball index would trigger it, but it is now working but the 2nd Ball isn’t.

I’m basically done with fixing the machine. My last issue is I am having trouble getting the Game Over relay to work all of the sudden. It had been working, but now sometimes it engages and others it won’t. Ugh!

I still have trouble with it kicking out two balls as well, but I tightened the spring (way tight) on the Ball Release relay and it works now, but it doesn’t seem like I should have to rig the spring to get one Ball instead of multiple balls. Any ideas on this? Wondering if it could be related to the Game Over relay issue. I get major sparking and clicking on the Game Over relay at times.

Good one.

I replaced all the leafs on the Game Over relay and it still does the same thing basically. I also removed the tight spring on the Ball Eject solenoid to ensure that was a cause and it’s kicking out more than one ball again; seems the super tight spring works, but I am curious as to why? Perhaps the leafs on the Ball Eject relay are shot? Or maybe so other small issue?