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TNA Owners - User Voice (Ideas for the future)

By grimnim

6 years ago


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#1 6 years ago

hey everyone, welcome to the TheNoTrashCougar fan club!
I recently got my TNA and was thinking about all the things it could do and wouldn't it be cool to keep developing the game?

so i want to hear your ideas and share some of mine then i'll post a poll to hear what Owners (but everyone is welcome) would like to see.

pretty much every game i have encountered thus far has been either score or storyline and i would really love to start seeing things that make the games less individual and more team based so here is my current wishlist and that will probably shine through a little...

1 - pinbrowser or similar support to be able to swap out audio / video / images

2 - single player unlimited ball mode, instead of getting a set number of balls, you just get an unlimited number of balls to keep playing through the storyline and see how many it takes you to finish. it would also be cool to use as a training mode without having to keep restarting the game and also a way to experience the later stages of the game for noobs. it would also be a cool way to play co-op with friends.

3 - timed game mode, basically like unlimited ball mode but once a set timer expires. this would be awesome for location if you want players to at least get a minimum game time but could also be cool for head to head matches (eg. highest score in 30 seconds then the flippers go dead)

4 - ghost mode. basically first player sets the target score and 2nd player gets that long to try and beat it. keep going until someone cant beat previous players time?

5 - coop / team mode. basically each player continues the last players game to see how far you can all get together. scores could show each players contribution with a final score shown on the end screen or just a total score.

6 - keep playing till you are number 1. basically in a multiplayer game, if you dont have the highest score, you play your next ball until you either get ahead or run out of balls. this is good because if you are playing someone and they set a big score and you lose your ball 1 with a crap score, you dont wait to redeem yourself. also adds extra strategy to the game.

interested in peoples thoughts on my ideas and hearing your ideas too!
grimnim

#8 6 years ago
Quoted from Aurich:

It's a great game right now, why not just enjoy it for what it is, instead of trying to clutter it up with things it doesn't actually need? More isn't always better, it's a simple game, that's easy to pick up, and hard to master. If you're bored because you're blowing up 9 reactors every game post some videos, you must be pretty good!
You're excited, I'm sure you mean well, but the guy just created his vision, down to composing all the music, and your first request is "hey, let me take your music out and put in my own songs". That's kind of weird. "Thanks for making all this music Scott, how can I take it out?"
It doesn't need a timed mode, ball times aren't long. If you're not playing long enough, keep practicing, that's the point.
It's already a great multiplayer game.
Sorry man, you're just happy and I'm pissing on your thread, but I think it's okay to let a game be what it is.

You don't need to be sorry for having a contrasting opinion to mine, that’s what forums are for! I will try to answer and respond to your questions in the order you placed them.

TNA is absolutely a great game and i think everyone enjoys playing it how it is. I think the reason to want to extend functionality of the game is self-explanatory, because it extends the longevity of the game, creates new experiences and appeals to different user groups.

I love the simple, linear rule set (that's one of the reasons i bought it) and i’m not blowing up anywhere near 9 reactors but most of what i am suggesting isn’t to make the game harder, it’s to make the game fun in different scenarios and for different audiences.

Imagine you are a new player going to play it on location and your game last 30 seconds, it might not be the best experience, but getting a minimum game time may make the game a lot more enjoyable. Being able to play a game co-operatively instead of competitively would appeal to a huge audience, especially those who want to play with friends that are a lot worse or better than them.

I also love the music (I have the cassette and I stream it in my car too) but I would love to change the google assistant voices and maybe add some humor to the game with different call-outs. Just look at what people have done with some stern games to see the value in that. It's not a knock at what Scott has done at all, he is a total hero and I think the total package of what he has created is better than any other game out there, that’s why it’s my first pin but that doesn’t mean it cant be opened up for change. I think even AMH you can change tracks using an SD card or something.

Anything, I think that your view is a little closed minded and I hope that Scott wouldn't read the thread the same way because the motivation behind this is to take pinball to the next level, appeal to new audiences and create new and exciting experiences for players.

I would love a game that continues to be developed, that’s the type of game you keep in your collection forever.

I would bet that if you asked TNA owners if they would spend an extra $500-1000 to get a handful of the ideas i put up, 70% would go for it, maybe more.

#11 6 years ago

How steep do you have yours set?

I like that you can orbit, let it bounce off the left flipper and hit the right flipper for an easy ball lock

I'll have mine at my own place in about a month so I am looking forward to getting past reactor 2.

Unrelated note- how is the flipper strength after you play for a while? Do you find they get any weaker, especially the right?

#18 6 years ago
Quoted from herg:

Except that we're talking about playing TNA with slightly different rulesets rather than writing a completely different software load from scratch.
If Scott decides to implement any of these ideas, great. If not, that's his decision to make.

Yeah exactly this and to be clear, I agree that the game is great how it is and I am not sure how long the development would take to do any of my ideas but all pinball (expect p3 as far as I know) is make a game one way.

The only reason I threw out the idea of DLC is because I know there would be a significant time required to develop new features and I for one would be happy to pay for it.

Now 1 guy willing to Shell out $500 is probably not worth what I am thinking a week or more of Scott's time but if we said hey guys it would take me 2 weeks and $5000 to make a new feature or two, that would be like $20 a head if everyone two has a TNA put in for it (hence user voice)

#20 6 years ago
Quoted from monkeyboypaul:

How about after reactor 9 is complete, the game restarts and all subsequent scoring is doubled (like completing SuperHero on Spider-Man).
Otherwise it seems damn good out of the box with the latest code.
Very eager to get one in the UK (March at TILT, Birmingham) then maybe later in the year for potential purchase.

How about the reactors are going critical and you have to hit shots to cool them down before they blow up.

Like playing as someone from the future instead of the chick from the past?

Story line evolves, the futures been destroyed but humanity lives on and even further in the future, reverse time travel is finally invented and as the ancestor of the chick (or doppleganger, take your pick). You have to go back and save the past from the past to save the futures future

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#27 6 years ago

i think i now understand pinside or at least the vocal minority.
every game should have a set number of features which is determined by the almight version 1.0
once a game reaches this magical point, the game is considered complete and should only receive minor bug fixes and possible scoring balances.
why would anyone want a $10,000 (AUD) game to get new features?

oh and hey, there are workarounds for everything you want anyway. you want a virtual ball lock instead of ball stealing? just have everyone play 1 player games and buy 4 machines. want to play with the audio files? just recode the game from scratch because its p-roc.

this thread is not to spit in the face of the developer and say, hey make the game better. the game is amazing and well worth its value as is. no one is disputing that.

its to dream and share ideas. if scott or spooky want to capitalise on that and people are willing to pay for the things they like, then thats amazing and it can only be good for the game and the hobby.

personally, i would love to see as many people as possible owning a TNA. that'll reassure me that in 20 years time, i'll still be able to get parts and support and new owners will have a wealth of knowledge all over the world for whatever they encounter.

i don't know why a bunch of people want to shit everything. if you don't like the thread, just downvote it or ignore it and move on and let the people who actually want to engage in dialogue enjoy themselves.

i don't understand negative people

#29 6 years ago
Quoted from BorgDog:

If it's to "dream and share ideas", maybe you want to change the title to something other than "Requests", because frankly that sounds like a lot of entitlement and demanding as opposed to maybe "Ideas" or "Dreams", but hey maybe that's just me.
Oh, and my TNA is on a truck on it's way across the country to me right now.

okay fair point, there you go, i changed it.
congrats on the TNA, let us know how you like it.

#31 6 years ago
Quoted from bangerjay:

Don’t let anyone crush your dreams

to use my dream theme, rick and morty....

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#38 6 years ago

They are all good for different scenarios.
Here's a few more ideas that would be cool for tournament play or dollar games:

Follow the white rabbit: 1 shot is lit, only the lit shot is worth points.

Kiss of death: there is a red lit shot that when hit, kills the flippers for a moment.

No multiball: ball locks are now short time playfield multipliers, 2x 3x and 4x. Your multiplier drops if you don't hit a multiplier for a few seconds.

Master of flow: no holds / cradling on flippers

Red light / green light: single green lit shot makes scoring positive, hitting the naughty red lit shot makes all scoring negative till you hit the green shot.

All in a new menu, something like settings> gameplay(custom mods)

Modes can be stacked, colours are just used for example.

#42 6 years ago
Quoted from herg:

I just noticed falconpunch and grimnim are both from Melbourne. Do you guys know each other?

There's almost 5million people in Melbourne Herg, what would be the odds of that?... But yeah we do

#45 6 years ago

quoting yourself like it wasn't already in the OP. lol

#47 6 years ago
Quoted from Whysnow:

I shared the idea long before you started the thread, but that was the whole joke.
Scott thought of it long before any of us

no need to be defensive mate, i'm just stirring the pot.
none of us invented the idea of co-op play lol
even though it'll get implemented the exact way i suggested

#48 6 years ago
Quoted from herg:

There's near that many people in northern Virginia, and I'd say I know a large proportion of the pinball owners. On another forum, I agree, it would have been a stupid question, but here...

Yeah the Melbourne scene is pretty small I think the biggest tournament / meet I've been to had maybe 70 people

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