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Titan vs super bands

By Hayfarmer

4 years ago


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    “Titan vs super bands”

    • Titan 67 votes
      71%
    • Super bands 14 votes
      15%
    • Fsctory bands 13 votes
      14%

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    #1 4 years ago

    Which is better flipper bands and why

    #2 4 years ago

    Titan for the win.

    #3 4 years ago

    Titians have closer to the same bounce factor as traditional rubbers, but with silicon, which is more durable. Super bands are also more durable, but also have more bounce to them, which can affect gameplay.

    #4 4 years ago

    I will never use superbands again due to too many balls hitting the flipper and jumping straight over it to drain.

    Titans also react differently than I expect based on traditional rubbers, but I am basically happy with the way they play.

    I am not a seasoned vet on here. I have owned maybe 10-12 pins total. I consider myself a fairly good player though.

    #5 4 years ago

    Titan. No contest.

    #6 4 years ago

    Titans or regular rubbers mainly, for high impact posts I use superbands. (similar to what stern did on black knight).

    #8 4 years ago

    Titan all the way.

    Maybe you could add a poll?

    4 months later
    #9 4 years ago

    Anyone ordered from Titan recently? I can’t reach them by phone nor email.

    #10 4 years ago

    Titan is my favorite. I have made 2 purchases from them in the last month, one of which was about a week and a half ago with no problems. Sorry you are having issues with your order.

    #11 4 years ago
    Quoted from Skyemont:

    Anyone ordered from Titan recently? I can’t reach them by phone nor email.

    Hey there @skyemont. We don't have a business phone so I'm not sure what number you are calling.

    We don't have a single unanswered email. Our address is [email protected].

    Thanks,
    Eric

    #12 4 years ago

    Skyemont I just saw your order come through. Good to go! It should ship today. Thanks!

    #13 4 years ago

    1) Pinballlife perfect play

    2) Titan

    3) Standard

    4) superbands. When someone sells you a game with them on, take them off and put them on the game you are selling.

    1 month later
    #14 4 years ago

    I have titan bands on most of my machines. I thought about giving super bands a shot on a game. Would they be better on an older game like a Catacomb or something newer? The extra bounce factor sounds like it may play well in an 80’s title. Any thoughts?

    #15 4 years ago

    Have had titans on for 6 months now, no issues at all. Will buy again as needed. Great color match to games too

    #16 4 years ago

    Why are people describing Super-bands as more bouncy?
    The rebound coefficient, in descending order:
    1. Silicone (Perfect Play, Titan)
    2. Rubber (OEM Stern/JJP)
    3. Polyurethane (Super-bands)

    Super-bands are murder to get on and, once on, they're hard as rocks. Worst for bounce passing, for sure. Simple rubber is my favorite.

    #17 4 years ago
    Quoted from Jason_Jehosaphat:

    Super-bands are murder to get on and, once on, they're hard as rocks. Worst for bounce passing, for sure. Simple rubber is my favorite.

    This is totally correct. For my games at home or setting up a game for a tournament, it is pure old fashioned rubber all the way. I would never use anything else unless I was putting a game on route or something.

    To me for pure game play and feel rubber is the best, followed by silicone and then a very big gap and poly in last place. Superbands simply play like crap.

    #18 4 years ago

    I use Titans on all my keeper pins. They are high quality, ship fast, come in MANY colors, last a long time, and are a great selling point when it is time to move on from a pin. They are the best choice all around.

    #19 4 years ago
    Quoted from Jason_Jehosaphat:

    Why are people describing Super-bands as more bouncy?
    The rebound coefficient, in descending order:
    1. Silicone (Perfect Play, Titan)
    2. Rubber (OEM Stern/JJP)
    3. Polyurethane (Super-bands)
    Super-bands are murder to get on and, once on, they're hard as rocks. Worst for bounce passing, for sure. Simple rubber is my favorite.

    Couple thoughts, as I recall vid did a detailed comparison where he found the super-bands were more bouncy than the Titan bands. That is entirely what I framed my question on; I have no direct knowledge as I’ve only hitherto used Titans and regular rubbers.

    Also, I thought Titan were polyurethane. I don’t know the difference in silicone and polyurethane. I really love my titan bands which are on the bulk of my collection. They are amazing; I just trying competing products from time to time. I need to order another fatigue mat from Titan, might do that today.

    #20 4 years ago

    I just replaced all the Superbands in all my pins. They are very hard to get on and off. They do look nice though.

    I put in Perfect Play silicone bands from Pinball Life. They play more like the traditional rubber. They come in lots of nice colors. I use mostly black.

    The Superbands are urethane. They do play different. My friend hates them. Less ball control.

    #21 4 years ago

    Super Bands = Metal bounce

    #22 4 years ago

    I think Superbands have less bounce

    Quoted from TigerLaw:Couple thoughts, as I recall vid did a detailed comparison where he found the super-bands were more bouncy than the Titan bands. That is entirely what I framed my question on; I have no direct knowledge as I’ve only hitherto used Titans and regular rubbers.
    Also, I thought Titan were polyurethane. I don’t know the difference in silicone and polyurethane. I really love my titan bands which are on the bulk of my collection. They are amazing; I just trying competing products from time to time. I need to order another fatigue mat from Titan, might do that today.

    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/titans-competition-silicone-rubber-vids-review

    #23 4 years ago
    Quoted from kdunbar:

    I think Superbands have less bounce

    Thanks for the link. Very helpful!

    #24 4 years ago

    Super Bands have little or no bounce. Makes it easy to do a drop catch and almost impossible to do a dead flipper pass. They are also really sticky, so the slightest amount of spin on the ball results in major changes in shot direction and loss of accuracy. When they first came out, I thought they were cool because of how they looked and all the colors. After buying a bunch and using them for a while, I pulled them all off my machines and threw them in the trash.

    #25 4 years ago
    Quoted from John_I:

    Super Bands have little or no bounce. Makes it easy to do a drop catch and almost impossible to do a dead flipper pass. They are also really sticky, so the slightest amount of spin on the ball results in major changes in shot direction and loss of accuracy. When they first came out, I thought they were cool because of how they looked and all the colors. After buying a bunch and using them for a while, I pulled them all off my machines and threw them in the trash.

    Yep, that sounds like the absolute opposite of what I want. I’ll stick with my Titans and just order more of those. Thanks for the feedback.

    Quick question: I’ve heard that color can impact some aspects of the bands. Is that correct? If so, which colors have what attributes in Titans? Or is that only in normal rubbers?

    #26 4 years ago
    Quoted from TigerLaw:

    Quick question: I’ve heard that color can impact some aspects of the bands. Is that correct? If so, which colors have what attributes in Titans? Or is that only in normal rubbers?

    I believe it was only normal rubber that is affected, I think titan was designed to be close to original red flipper rubber

    #27 4 years ago

    I also like and put on all our games the flipper button protector. Mylar like, but removes with fingers and no residue. Cheap and work great and virtually invisible

    6 months later
    #28 3 years ago

    I had super bands on all of my games until recently. I tore them all off and installed titans on everything. I find that I have better ball control and much less bounce. Of course your mileage may vary but I’m even posting better scores and making more shots with the Titans on there

    2 years later
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    #29 9 months ago
    Quoted from Jason_Jehosaphat:

    Why are people describing Super-bands as more bouncy?
    The rebound coefficient, in descending order:
    1. Silicone (Perfect Play, Titan)
    2. Rubber (OEM Stern/JJP)
    3. Polyurethane (Super-bands)
    Super-bands are murder to get on and, once on, they're hard as rocks. Worst for bounce passing, for sure. Simple rubber is my favorite.

    Saying Polyurethane rubbers are bad because ONE (Chinese) producer make them from low cost material (Super-bands) is both wrong and not fair to other producers of high quality flipper rubbers and rubber rings...

    Our flipper rubbers and rubber rings are made with different bounce depending on the color, like in the old days Yellow was more bouncy than red, and black less bouncy then red... They are also of superior quality... And I don't believe for a second that Stern rubbers are made from natural rubber. My guess is that they are a Polyurethane mix of some kind.... Natural rubber "sweat/perspire" and would get small white dots on it after around 6 months, and that is especially easy to see on the black rubbers ...

    The picture below shows a black rubber we made from natural rubber around 3 years ago when we started up on top of a polyurethane mix that is around 1 year old....

    https://worldwidepinball.com/product-category/rubber-products/flipper-rubbers/

    SPF Natural Rubber - Polyurethane comperison (resized).jpgSPF Natural Rubber - Polyurethane comperison (resized).jpg
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    #30 8 months ago

    I see Titan has 2 ring types for standard flippers. One with no description and another that says “low bounce”. Both are advertised as silicone. Any experience out there with these two types?

    #31 8 months ago

    Low bounce plays more like black stern rubber that’s a few months old. It’s easier to catch and control the ball as there’s less bounce. They are about 1mm or so thinner than standard rubber

    #32 8 months ago
    Quoted from JackMorten:

    Saying Polyurethane rubbers are bad because ONE (Chinese) producer make them from low cost material (Super-bands) is both wrong and not fair to other producers of high quality flipper rubbers and rubber rings...
    Our flipper rubbers and rubber rings are made with different bounce depending on the color, like in the old days Yellow was more bouncy than red, and black less bouncy then red... They are also of superior quality... And I don't believe for a second that Stern rubbers are made from natural rubber. My guess is that they are a Polyurethane mix of some kind.... Natural rubber "sweat/perspire" and would get small white dots on it after around 6 months, and that is especially easy to see on the black rubbers ...
    The picture below shows a black rubber we made from natural rubber around 3 years ago when we started up on top of a polyurethane mix that is around 1 year old....
    https://worldwidepinball.com/product-category/rubber-products/flipper-rubbers/[quoted image]

    Easy there fella......Super-Bands are high-quality polyurethane flipper rings made in the USA in Cranberry Township, PA. Like how they play or not, don't spread false information.

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