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Tip: How to level your machine, and how legos can help.

By sataneatscheese

6 months ago


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    “Which do you use to level your machines?”

    • Phone Apps 16 votes
      34%
    • Bubble Level or Inclinometer 27 votes
      57%
    • I don't need no stinking level! 4 votes
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    #1 6 months ago

    I have seen a couple of threads on this with different methods, but here is how I do mine and how I use legos to make it easier.

    There are many phone aps you can use, and this process can be used to “square” the phone. I personally don’t use the phone aps, but a bubble level and cheap Home Depot inclinometer are more than sufficient for my needs. I also use some legos to create a flat “even” surface and square to measure against. My system runs about $20 and being able to expand or shrink legos means the system is “universal”.

    Basics: Always measure on the playfield itself (not the glass). Adjust the casters on the feet to level the machine.

    Step 1: Find 2 points on your playfield that should be the exact same difference up your playfield. I usually use the tops of the slings.

    Step 2: Put down a ruler, piece of wood, or something long enough to bridge the two points chosen. I use legos because I can make them the exact size I need.

    Step 3: Level the machine left to right using a buble level.

    Step 4: Add a square, or if you are using legos some legos going up and down.

    Step 5: Use my inclinometer to measure pitch and adjust front and back legs as necessary. 6.5 to 7 is normalish, but I usually go around 6.8. The higher the pitch, the harder and faster it is.

    Step 6: Repeat steps 3 and 5 until both measurements are accurate.

    Enjoy!

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    #2 6 months ago

    Yes, using the Legos to form a square is a great idea...thanks.

    #3 6 months ago

    This is an awesome idea!

    #4 6 months ago

    I was really hoping this thread would educate me no how to stop crawling on the floor and breaking my back when I lift the cabinet with one hand and twist the leveler feet with the other... but no such luck

    Nice tip with the legos though!

    #5 6 months ago
    Quoted from avanwinkle:

    I was really hoping this thread would educate me no how to stop crawling on the floor and breaking my back when I lift the cabinet with one hand and twist the leveler feet with the other... but no such luck
    Nice tip with the legos though!

    while you are down on the floor crawl under the machine and arch your back, you can lift the machine just enough to get a leg off the ground and have 2 hands free to work on the leveler . my back hurts just thinking of doing what you are describing!

    #6 6 months ago
    Quoted from avanwinkle:

    I was really hoping this thread would educate me no how to stop crawling on the floor and breaking my back when I lift the cabinet with one hand and twist the leveler feet with the other... but no such luck

    Yep, I always have to do the same thing...

    #7 6 months ago
    Quoted from pinballjj:

    while you are down on the floor crawl under the machine and arch your back, you can lift the machine just enough to get a leg off the ground and have 2 hands free to work on the leveler . my back hurts just thinking of doing what you are describing!

    Exactly the way I've always done it.

    #8 6 months ago

    That is such a good idea, I'm gonna check my levels right away !

    #9 6 months ago

    I used to be super fussy -- phone apps or digital meters, get out a ruler to balance the phone or meter between the top of the slings, glass always off, etc. Lately I've been under a self-imposed "less fuss, more play" mission, so I've just been using the built-in level in the shooter lane, and, horror of horrors, a level placed on top of the glass at the lockbar.

    ...It's been fine. Sure, the fuss works better, and some games like Rick & Morty and Stranger Things really need the preciseness, but the lazy method works just fine for most games. At least newer ones where cabinets haven't warped and twisted a bit over the years.

    #10 6 months ago

    I just put legos under the feet until its level...

    #11 6 months ago

    I take my shoes off and stand on legos, that way I don't care or even notice if it's level.

    #12 6 months ago
    Quoted from sataneatscheese:

    The higher the pitch, the harder and faster it is.

    Not true. A steeper slope means less side to side action. Depends on the game whether that makes it easier or harder. And it’s only faster when the ball is rolling down the slope. It’s slower when rolling up the slope, which means ramp shots are generally slightly harder.

    Reducing player control is key to making a table more difficult. Sensitive slings, tight tilt, bouncy rubber, wide outlanes.

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    #14 5 months ago
    Quoted from avanwinkle:

    I was really hoping this thread would educate me no how to stop crawling on the floor and breaking my back when I lift the cabinet with one hand and twist the leveler feet with the other... but no such luck
    Nice tip with the legos though!

    Put a open end wrench on the foot and turn it. No lifting required. You'll have to loosen the lock nut if you're lowering it (and if the lock nut is still there).

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    -Paul

    #15 5 months ago
    Quoted from Pablito350:

    Put a open end wrench on the foot and turn it. No lifting required. You'll have to loosen the lock nut if you're lowering it (and if the lock nut is still there).
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    -Paul

    I feel pretty stupid never thinking to just turn the bottom nut, lol.

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    #16 5 months ago
    Quoted from Pablito350:

    Put a open end wrench on the foot and turn it. No lifting required. You'll have to loosen the lock nut if you're lowering it (and if the lock nut is still there).
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    -Paul

    THANK YOU! I never even noticed that the leveler feet had square edges for wrenching. No more back lifts for me!

    #17 5 months ago

    Fantastic idea. Definitely putting this to use

    #18 5 months ago
    Quoted from cosmokramer:

    I just put legos under the feet until its level...

    I thought for sure that's were this thread was going. I'm dissapointed.

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