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Tilt Bobber Settings? (Mirror Tournament/League)

By Dalinar

7 months ago



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    #1 7 months ago

    Appreciate some guidance.

    Just joined up for League for the first time and finding myself tilting on the majority of machines I play on.

    I have home pin's and when I checked the bobbers I realized they were all to the bottom (sterns) but were all centered properly.

    So the question is what measurement (e.g. 1/4 inch) above the circle to people recommend to best mimic more competitive play so I can get some better practice. (should add I know this will be different at each location, so I want it to be reasonable but not ultra hard).

    Thanks

    #2 7 months ago

    When I first started a pinball leauge. I discoverd much my tilting was from me leaning on the machine while I played and tranferred energy through the machine.

    then I learned about "nudging" and discovered more ways to tilt. much of that was moving the machine to late (not anticipating the ball heading into danger soon enough)

    I don't have any modern Sterns and not sure when "D-bounce" settings came to be .... (I'm thinking #kiss-stern) but that can be a factor as well.

    nothing specific mentioned at link below but some pointers are given
    https://replayfoundation.org/papa/learning-center/director-guide/

    I'd ask whomever runs the leauge where you play their recomendations on how you can set up your home machines to better simulate the settings they have. they probably open the coin door for you for a look-see.

    #3 7 months ago

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    First I get rid of all the tilt warnings except the one that lets you know when you did it. Keeps everybody honest.

    Then I set them until I tilt the game two or more times in a session. Then loosen them up just a tad and test it out until it's just right.

    #4 7 months ago

    I remember eons ago I was on the west coast think near Sen Pedro I was playing a machine and we had a quake. The building shook hard and the machine tilted ruining a great ball.

    #5 7 months ago

    You want it tight enough so anything more than a nudge gives you a warning, a hard hit should do 1-2 warnings, and a really hard hit should blow through all the warnings and timeouts and tilt. There's no set formula for this close, this far. It also depends on the materials on the tilt mech, and how clean/tarnished they are. I polish all mine and set the tilts reasonably tight; there's really nothing that will make you a better player than being able to nudge with tight tilts.

    I thought I had all mine adjusted correctly for a tournament in 2008; I was like, hey, they tilt! The players that came over had a field day kicking everyone's ass at the games and none of those players tilted.

    On the flip side, the first tournament I attended at pinball expo in the 2000s, the tilts were way too tight IMO, even with hindsight on tournament setups since then, they still were too tight. Hitting the launch button a bit hard or the flippers a bit hard shouldn't produce a warning let alone a tilt. The popeye in that tournament was set so tight that anything blew through the 3 warnings and tilted. The match was decided on how well you could plunge the skill shot.

    Play with the bob setting, it's easy to adjust. The hard to adjust part is the playing end, but you will get better at it with practice.

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