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Three Machines - no keys

By undrdog

3 years ago


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    #1 3 years ago

    I just scored three Wms Hi-Hand machines. 1957. No keys.

    What are my best options?

    Drill em?
    Buy a lock pick set and try to learn how to do it?

    Buy a score of keys from someone and hope one fits?

    #2 3 years ago
    Quoted from undrdog:

    I just scored three Wms Hi-Hand machines. 1957. No keys.
    What are my best options?
    Drill em?
    Buy a lock pick set and try to learn how to do it?
    Buy a score of keys from someone and hope one fits?

    Personally I would drill them out and buy new locks.

    #3 3 years ago

    5 minutes later with a drill, All open

    #4 3 years ago
    Quoted from undrdog:

    I just scored three Wms Hi-Hand machines. 1957. No keys.
    What are my best options?
    Drill em?
    Buy a lock pick set and try to learn how to do it?
    Buy a score of keys from someone and hope one fits?

    Are they numbered at all? I have a huge collection of old arcade keys if you have the numbers on them.
    Lock picking is also super easy, most these locks are very low-security.

    #5 3 years ago

    Drill, baby, DRILL!!!

    #6 3 years ago

    This method does work if you can find the correct file.

    #7 3 years ago
    Quoted from Mikala:

    This method does work if you can find the correct file.

    Great! Thanks! Once I get into them I can decide which doors / locks to keep. The plan is to end up with one good machine from the parts of all three.

    #8 3 years ago
    Quoted from Mikala:

    This method does work if you can find the correct file.

    This is a method called raking basically that’s covered by the lock-picking lawyer on YouTube. If you buy the rake tool it’s even easier.
    This only works with the cheapo locks some of them are double-bitted, they’re harder to pick.

    #9 3 years ago
    Quoted from Isochronic_Frost:

    Are they numbered at all? I have a huge collection of old arcade keys if you have the numbers on them.
    Lock picking is also super easy, most these locks are very low-security.

    No numbers. Thank you for the offer.

    Quoted from Mikala:

    This method does work if you can find the correct file.

    Isn't working with a nail file on these locks, but YouTube instructionals make things look easier than they really are. Maybe I just need to practice. I'll check out the lock picking lawyer, too.

    #10 3 years ago

    You can drill it in less than a minute. Odds are the backbox keys are hanging inside the coin door. Avoid drilling near the backglass, replacing a broken backglass is comparatively expensive.

    #11 3 years ago

    Could not drill it. Not in a minute or ten. The lock defeated my bits. The new Milwaukee metal / stainless bit I bought didn’t touch it, either.

    Ended up drilling out the door all around the lock. (It’s ok, I wasn’t going to use this cabinet anyway.)

    For all that work, I was hoping for some treasure inside !

    I got a 1991 dime, a coin box in good condition , nesting material and some styrofoam.

    The treasure I was hoping for most of all was keys to the back box. No luck.

    These locks have jagged edges on both sides of the key.

    #12 3 years ago
    Quoted from undrdog:

    Could not drill it. Not in a minute or ten. The lock defeated my bits. The new Milwaukee metal / stainless bit I bought didn’t touch it, either.
    Ended up drilling out the door all around the lock. (It’s ok, I wasn’t going to use this cabinet anyway.)
    For all that work, I was hoping for some treasure inside !
    I got a 1991 dime, a coin box in good condition , nesting material and some styrofoam.
    The treasure I was hoping for most of all was keys to the back box. No luck.
    These locks have jagged edges on both sides of the key.

    Yep that’s double-bitted. They suck to drill.

    #13 3 years ago

    Take a big sturdy flatbladed screwdriver, the kind with the square shaft, and pound it into the lock as far as you can with a big hammer. Take a crescent wrench, size it down to the shaft, put a piece of pipe on the end if you need more leverage, turn in the direction the lock would normally turn (usually clockwise). It should break the lock apart (they're just pot metal) and turn it far enough to get the door open. No drill needed.

    #14 3 years ago

    I have three heads I need to get into. The glass is old and I’m afraid to pound the paint off it. Think I’ll just take them to a locksmith.

    #15 3 years ago

    I jus take a large flat head screwdriver, put it in the slot next to the lock, and pop it open... unless it’s collector quality. You might end up with a slight dent you can pound back out.

    #16 3 years ago

    Wooden doors.

    #17 3 years ago

    And here I was thinking you picked up the Evel Knievel home edition, Fireball home edition, and Captain Fantastic home edition.

    #18 3 years ago

    I've probably drilled out over 100 locks and never had an issue.

    #19 3 years ago
    Quoted from newmantjn:

    I've probably drilled out over 100 locks and never had an issue.

    I’ll be around all day today. C'mon by and show me how!

    #20 3 years ago

    newmantjn More seriously, do you use a special bit?

    #21 3 years ago

    DuckDuckGo for “drill hardened steel”. Some good info out there. What works for me is starting with a small bit and working to larger sizes as needed.
    Some videos and lots of marketing at this link: https://www.ttp-hard-drills.net/drill-bits-for-hardened-steel/

    #22 3 years ago

    Not to worry, I’ve got the heads at a locksmith who is picking them. Will end up with new door and head locks keyed the same. Opening three, but only need one to be functional.

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