Melbourne, ON
This or That:
LOTR (standard) or White Water plus 1000 clams
(Topic ID: 269203)
Ann Arbor, MI
Quoted from drummermike:Buying or selling?
Trading - maybe
I'm trying to eliminate as many variables in order to get a survey based solely on game play:
- same condition
- all original, no mods, LEDs, subs, etc.
- same cash value, hence why I added $1K to WH20 based on the Pinside market averages
- considering a trade of one for the other
Quoted from elcolonel:When the salesperson asks me for more details I am just going to say"I am trying to eliminate as many variables as possible"
Jesus fucking christ, which pinball machine do you prefer? Question asked 1000 times a day on this site...how is this confusing/grinding your gears this much?
Quoted from elcolonel:I'm gonna call Carvana tomorrow, and when a salesman answers, I am just gonna say " Ford or Chevrolet +1k I'm thinking about trading....maybe"
Quoted from elcolonel:Holy smokes, this is as bad, as trying to talk to a tree stump...
Quoted from elcolonel:When the salesperson asks me for more details I am just going to say"I am trying to eliminate as many variables as possible"
This is a website dedicated to talking about pinball... you would think after being a member for 5 years elcolonel could figure this out....
Gosh, that's tough. White Water and LotR are basically my two most favorite pins. With White Water being more expensive I think I'd lean more towards LotR, as it certainly has more to do than WH2O, but then again WH2O has a better playfield design and sound package IMHO... But only slightly better.
If you want to go on a journey, consider LotR. If you just want pure fun, consider WH2O.
Quoted from swampfire:It’s a personal decision. Which game do you like playing more? I sold Whitewater because I didn’t like the audio quality (for $2500!). But it’s a better layout than LOTR, which I kept. Either one would be easy to sell if you change your mind.
You should hear the remastered audio with a pinsound. It's amazing!
Two very different machines made by two different manufacturers with two different layouts.
Both sound packages are pretty bad - so that's a tie
Both command "about" the same money - so that's a tie.
LOTR is considered one of the hardest pins ever made - I've played almost two hour games and after 6 years of owning still haven't reached Valinor. White water is easily beaten. (Doesn't make it any less fun)
LOTR has the option for a shaker that is code based not switch activated - Chalk one up for LOTR
LOTR can be a REALLY long game while White Water is a quick game in comparison.
I think that you should consider your current collection, how many fan layouts, how many quick game types VS long time games.
Variety is what makes a pin collection more enjoyable long term
Quoted from CLEllison:Two very different machines made by two different manufacturers with two different layouts.
Both sound packages are pretty bad - so that's a tie
Both command "about" the same money - so that's a tie.
LOTR is considered one of the hardest pins ever made - I've played almost two hour games and after 6 years of owning still haven't reached Valinor. White water is easily beaten. (Doesn't make it any less fun)
LOTR has the option for a shaker that is code based not switch activated - Chalk one up for LOTR
LOTR can be a REALLY long game while White Water is a quick game in comparison.
I think that you should consider your current collection, how many fan layouts, how many quick game types VS long time games.
Variety is what makes a pin collection more enjoyable long term
Well I really like the wh2o sound package, no problems there imo. Cant even remember lotr sound though so probably really generic 
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