Personally I feel like the artwork on the backbox (if it’s real) feels reminiscent of the original trilogy artwork. It’s not for everyone, but I’d be ok with it, and back box artwork is one of my lowest priorities anyway.

I won’t be passing judgement until I see the game in action

Either dealers will capitalize on excess demand or scalpers will. Like it or not, I’d rather the dealers who stuck with this hobby for so long get a chance to make bank rather than carpet bagging opportunists.

My 2 cents anyway.

I wouldn’t mind a unique implementation of a hot rail that looked like lasers firing from a ship. But hot rails similar to GNR/LZ would feel out of place IMO. (And I say that as someone who loves the hot rails in GNR.)

Here’s an upvote just to spite you

This is the way.

Carl Weathers.

So what you’re saying is this is really the Inception pinball machine?

I’m pretty sure that’s just Mylar peeling

My interest is piqued after watching the premium/LE features video. Not sure if it fits in my small collection, but would be promising if I had space for a large number of pins. Can’t wait to watch some pinball streams and play this on location!

In some past streams they started with a pro and then played a LE IIRC.

I doubt Stern had a choice regarding Cara Dune. Disney requires their own review and sign-off on all assets. And whether or not you agree with what happened, it’s quite obvious how hard Disney worked to expunge her from all assets moving forward.

Yeah, the more concrete information I see on this pin and the more I think about it, the more I realize it fits what I want to round out my collection.

I just need to see it in action, and preferably play it on location. Looking forward to Jack’s stream next week

I’ve got a Deadpool prem arriving soon. That Wolverine action figure does nothing, neither does Dazzler, and the Lil’ Deadpool just bobbles. The magnet sucks too because it doesn’t even exist!

Plus, there’s no Cara Dune.

Deadpool must be one of the worst pins ever

Why spend the extra money to purchase your kid a fishing rod, tackle box, a tent and camping gear, and then spend the time driving them to a river or lake and then hang out with them for a weekend when you can just buy them a stuffed fish and call it a day?

Sheesh, Pinside is full of parenting tips today. God forbid a dad or grandad wants to spend some time bonding with their kid...

Heh, I think it's telling how Stern picked C-H-I-L-D as the letters to light instead of G-R-O-G-U

Eh, both can. Prices are driven by supply and demand. If scalpers are able to hoard enough units to choke supply, then they can impact prices even if demand doesn't change. Not sure that's really happening in this case, but flippers/scalpers absolutely can impact prices in some situations.

His story sounds kind of sad, so I shouldn’t poke fun.

But...

The father realized his future son-in-law is a Pro rather than a LE. Plenty of copies to go around and missing key features.

Oddly, I contacted The Pinball Company early this year to pre-order a Deadpool premium and they told me Stern wouldn't be producing them anymore, which I knew was wrong because multiple other distributors told me about the planned April/May production run. So I pre-ordered from a different distributor. Now The Pinball Company has Deadpool premiums available for sale... at over $1K what the other distributor charged me.

I'm new to this hobby and starting the learn the reputation of different distributors. Now I know to avoid The Pinball Company in the future.

Maybe I'm not seeing it right, but it looks like baby yoda is hiding a mess of wires and an orbit(?). I get the impression that the "doll" is a hollow sculpture with quite bit running through its backside.

I wonder if that uplift target under the Razor Crest is there to prevent SDTM drains for balls coming back down that lane. Looks like there may be a horizontal post that keeps the target from swinging toward the player, thus acting like a one-way gate.

Deadpool pinball reveal and early launch reactions on Pinside: Where are the interactive toys? Lil’ Deadpool is just a bash target, not a toy. Modes look lame on early code. Shots seem like a clunk fest. Video content looks pixelated. Eff Stern.

Deadpool results: Pinside top 10.

JJP GNR reveal/launch reactions on Pinside: No interactive toys. Axl upper playfield skeleton is just static. Layout isn’t interesting. Too many multiballs. Lame use of a magnet. Eff JJP.

JJP GNR results: CE sells out in a day. Voted TWIPY GoTY

Mandalorian reveal reactions on Pinside: Grogu is just a doll. Where are the interactive toys? No Cara Dune. It’s just another fan layout. There shouldn’t be lights on Mando’s mini PF helmet. Lame use of a magnet. Eff Stern.

Mandalorian results: LE sells out within a day. The future of the game...??

Maybe... just maybe... the Debbie Downers on these reveal threads are a vocal minority completely disconnected from the majority of pinball enthusiasts

Has there been more info on the co-op code? Curious if it's like TMNT with regular co-op plus 2 vs. 2 and 3 vs. 1 modes.

I like that concept, forces some cooperation and team strategy

Curious to see if there are worthwhile strategies for, as an example, one player to focus on getting a jet pack, another to get whistling birds, etc.

I really like the look of the rifle side armor accessory. The one thing that gives me pause is the katana in the Deadpool side armor turned out to be a cheap piece of cardboard and was largely panned by those who bought it.

Hoping for more details on how that rifle is applied. Is it cardboard? Painted on? Vinyl?

If you want to get technical, then the mini PF does rotate around a pivot point that changes its pitch, the same way pilots describe changing pitch during take off as rotation. But I agree that most people would interpret "rotation" to mean something more akin to yaw than pitch.

Technically, though, the marketing is accurate in this case.

The playfield rotates around an axis. It's about movement, not what causes it. I can rotate my pen on a table - my fingers cause it, but the pen's motion is still in rotation. It's a weird description for marketing to use, but it's entirely accurate.

If the pen moves around an axis, then the pen rotates. If the pen changes pitch by rotating around a horizontal axis (regardless whether it makes a full rotation or not), then the pen rotates, just like a plane.

And technically I can use my fingers to rotate a pen without rotating my fingers. For example, if I move my finger in a straight line and cause the pen to rotate (aka spin), then I can cause an object - the pen - to rotate without the cause of the pen's motion - my finger - being in rotation

Well, no, that’s not how it’s defined. But if there’s anything I’ve learned about many Pinsiders, it’s that reality doesn’t really matter to them. They’re just a few degrees away from the flat earth club...

About as painful as being stabbed with a knife and then rotating it?

So, how about that ambush code? Remind anyone else of the risk/reward strategy with GNR songs?

As a pilot myself, I disagree You use the yoke, by way of the elevator, to rotate the plane which changes its pitch.

But... back to pinball.

If past streams are anything to go by, they usually start with a Pro and then switch to a LE or Prem.
Edit: typo

Don’t leave out roll! So does the mini playfield pitch or roll?

Damn, we need more info on this pin to discuss. Friday’s stream can’t come soon enough...

Let me guess: a ball wore a hole through his pants?

...

*Sigh* It's called rotate because the plane literally rotates. This is my final post on this topic, and anyone over and done with this argument can skip this. And if anyone wants the elementary version of this, check out the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum webpage on "How things fly" which says:

"Rotation around the front-to-back axis is called roll.
Rotation around the side-to-side axis is called pitch.
Rotation around the vertical axis is called yaw."

Pitch, yaw, and roll are all subcategories of rotation, just like how a cow is a mammal, which is also an animal. Many terms are more general, and others more specific to better communicate what you mean. If you said, "the plane moved," then someone would ask, "how did it move?" You can be more specific and say, "it rotated," but a plane can rotate on a lot of axis, so it's better to specify on which axis you rotated. Did you execute a lateral rotation to the left, or more simply, "yaw left" or "yaw to port"? Did you rotate the plane such that the nose pulls toward your head? Then you changed the "pitch." Did you rotate left or right along an axis that runs down the fuselage? Then you "rolled."

Pitch, yaw, and roll are more succinct and specific terms to describe a rotation. From a marketing standpoint, the unfortunate reality is that "pitch" doesn't work great as a verb or adjective to describe rotation. It'd be awkward to say the mini PF is a "Pitching playfield" or "A playfield that changes pitch" in promo materials, so it becomes a "Rotating playfield."

Done. Let's play pinball

I would describe JJ POTC's mini PF as rockin'

Dwight mentioned in the Super Awesome Pinball podcast that there's no lane by the "D" in C-H-I-L-D. Did anyone catch how the "D" is lit?

I think Disney had begun casting work for a live action Thrawn last year. It’s been a while, so I don’t recall all the speculative details.

**spoiler for Star Wars Rebels**

Rumors at the time guessed at a possible live action series about Ezra and Thrawn. But I could see how he might appear - or crossover - in The Mandalorian.

Yeah, he’s an awesome villain because he’s a good ol’ fashioned mastermind. No force powers or anything, just 10 steps ahead of everyone else and sets up impossible, oppressive situations for his opponents, toying with them psychologically.

Also had a great voice actor who, IMHO, would fit the live action character, too.

Yep, it's a title.

***spoiler warning***

Yes, Maul was killed (for real this time) by Middle-aged Ben before A New Hope.

***more spoiler warnings***

***like really, big ass spoilers***

***I'm serious, spoilers***

It gets better/crazier. Maul eventually took over the world Mandalore, becoming it's ruler, until Ahsoka showed up to beat the eff out of him.

And also in the Solo movie.

Truer words have never been spoken.

My first reaction was that's a photo from Gremlins...

Total speculation, but the head could be attached to a different support than the body, so if the body moved - say it gets hit by the ball - then the head won’t move with it. Or likewise, whatever the head support attaches to (maybe part of the orbit that runs through the Child?) moved a bit when the ball hit it and caused the head to shift a bit. Or the Child has a slight “bobble” head spring.

Unless it's on LOTR, then it's a "hobbitrail"...

Hanrails...

Brian and Dwight confirmed they have scenes from the show. My question will be how good is the variety, and how well do the clips flow together during gameplay.

Based on interviews so far, the mini PF is primarily used for Encounters. Other main modes don't use it or use it sparingly. We won't know for sure, though, until we see the game in action in a few hours

My takeaways from the interviews:

There's three main modes; Encounters, Missions, and Razor Crest. Each of those modes has a set of different events to complete. Complete the entire set to unlock a mode-specific mini wizard mode (for example, complete all Missions to unlock the Mission mini wizard mode). Complete all three main mini wizard modes to unlock This Is The Way wizard mode.

Love the energy in this pin. Grail theme for me, shots looked good, great code, excellent incorporation of music and sound effects. Co-op + teams + 1v3 + hero mode. Placed my premium pre-order. Ready for the owners thread

No full cast audio clips in Stern JP, JJP POTC, and no Ryan Reynolds in Deadpool. Those games must be bottom tier.

Based on the feedback here, it appears that Pinside wants a Baby Yoda that moves, has a magnet in his hand, talks like Mando, looks like Cara Dune, and rotates. Modders, make it happen.

So we’ll also add “make Baby Yoda invisible” to Pinside’s wishlist.

I would agree. It’s be awesome if there were a gazillion versions for each mode, but if anyone is considering buying then assume the number is limited to the inserts on the play field.

Yes. And it’s not just a Pinside bias. There’s a negative bias in any setting where voluntary opinions are provided, e.g. public forums, polls, post-purchase surveys, petitions, etc. (a phenomenon that has to be accounted for in market research).

People with a negative opinion are more likely to speak up than those with a positive opinion or those who are simply content with the current state of things. Put simply, even a small minority of negative opinions can vocally drown out a large happy majority.

So... when do we get an owners thread?

Yikes, I hope this won’t become the owners thread, lol. With all the off-topic discussions and posts by people who have no intention to be owners, Reddit/pinball is more of a Mandalorian owners thread

So does Dwight rotate or tilt?

So what we’re saying in this Mando thread is that if you like deep or complex code, don’t buy Munsters?

Yeah, co-op, teams, and hero mode will be a nice addition to my (tiny) collection. I really wanted the TMNT modes in a theme I liked better, and now I can have my cake and eat it too

I’ll bet it’s a moving Grogu

Wait, are we discussing Mando again?

No such photos exist because those classes never happened

You mean like how you can start multiball in Medieval Madness in 15sec by hitting the orbit a few times followed by the scoop?

And just like MM, you can do it but it’s not optimal. It’s an easy and fun mode to trigger early for a new player but not necessarily the best choice for an experienced one.

It’s possible that pros will be produced in waves like the prems. First prem run is July-ish, then another run in October. Which run you get into depends on your distro’s allocation quantity for each wave and your place in line with that distro.

Typing comments in Pinside… in slo-mo

Hell yes, we need an owner’s thread. And please don’t convert this one to the owner’s thread. We don’t want new owners slogging through 10 pages of Munster code discussions

My distributor said a second premium run is scheduled for October.