Just talk to my distributor. Sounds like its going to be a good game. He wouldnt divulge anything but he warned me about LZ playfield being barren and alittle ugly so i trust his opinion based on what a pin looks like.

Call them all back and get on there lists for back up because some will drop out because of the color of the armor, art work, has 2 flippers down by trough, ect...lol!

Same here! Wife was like get a LE and my kids have never shown any true excitement for pins until this one. Been a good week for us Star Wars fans. Oculus SW pinball then today Minecraft Star Wars for my little guy and now Stern with this cherry on top!

Hows the new show Bad Batch? Looks cool but being a animated series ill probably just let my kids tell me what happens.

100% disagree about Dwight code style. Hes all mode based usually and not score.TMNT, GOT, SW, and GB are just a few all mode based games that have great progression. Also Dwight is credited on software on LOTR besides Keefer.

Also has anybody ever noticed how interactive Marshmallow man is on GB? or how about the stupid looking infinity gauntlet that looks like it came out of a cracker jack box? Or how about the stupid dildo dino on the JP pro? I could keep going but you get the picture.

Game looks packed with great shots. My only concern is the depth of the code with 5 main modes. There has to be more then 5 main modes so im hoping for multilevel modes like BM66 where you can either cash out or go deeper into the next part of the mode or even possibly like Star Trek with levels to the modes.

Thing about RGB GIs is there always so dim unless its GOT or ST. JJPs are dim except GnR because of the Hotrails but the rest of there games are on the dim side compared to regular bayonet white leds which i prefer. Even Hot Wheels i just got is so dim it needs pin stadiums and Wonka pin stadiums are a must have. SW and BM66 GI that i have now are so much better lit stock then Wonka and HW. I do wish they would do full inserts RGB but GI with normal LED bulbs.

I have zero time on IMDN beside one time at Pinfest and i did enjoy it but Deadpool i couldnt sell fast enough with its modes being so shallow.

Also im not complaining i want a LE or premium. Im on the list for LE but 3 need to cancel as of 9am tismorning so lets talk bad about the game more so i can get a LE, LOL!

Ive never played one. Does it have a lot of modes? Ive never watched the show, not much of a cartoon fan.

Besides Lyman being number 1 Dwight is my favorite coder easily. Starting with Junkyard for me hes been great. GOT is my all time favorite coded game hes done followed by GB and SW closely. TMNT is really good to. Munsters he did what he was told to do so if he was told to make a simple game he did that great to cause that is a simple code. He is the master of moments. I dont fear DW on code ever!

Would be the SC version for Super Curvy. I think she would kick every single guys ass on here, id let her put get me in the north south position and transition into a triangle choke anyday!

I like that theres 5 rollover lanes. Reminds me of Williams Indy. I miss that on newer Sterns with only 3 lanes or even TMNT at only 2 which really suck.

Edit- (i see you unquoted me now)Not sure why you quoted me. I know why she got the boot but i still respect her as a person(anybody that steps into cage i respect) and liked her character on the show so it is what it is. Ive followed her since Strikeforce.

Well said and totally agree on all points!

No worries man i figured you didnt mean to quote me. I was surprised when i seen how large and in charge she became over the years, she has a power lifter look to her now compared to her 145lb fighting days, lol!

Is the Pro mini playfield even lifted at all? Ill have to go look at the Pro again since i didnt really check it out much since going LE/Prem. Looks flat from what i can tell and just fills the right corner of the normal level playfield. I could be wrong though? Ill go check it out again now.

Also is Grogu life size? He sure looks like it.

Thats what i thought from quick clip i did see of it. Thanks for clarification.

No he doesnt have levels to his modes that im aware of if your comparing to BM66 style modes which are the some of the best modes and code on any game ever. 4 stage episode modes on that game are outstanding compared to say GnR music modes that do nothing for me. Dwights style is more playing a progressive style game to get to the wizards with multipliers thrown in there for the points style guys which honestly i dont care about. I look for a adventure under glass that is exciting and fast paced. Dwight did do some finishing touches on Star Trek after Lonnies mess to but im not sure whos idea it was to make the 6 modes on that game 3 levels deep.

Its not a upper playfield on the pro correct?

I just looked him up and hes 16'' tall. He just seems so tiny when Mando is holding him on the show.

Same guy that designed the GOAT Medieval Madness!

Not that i disagree that Lyman is great but SW code is great also. It has some of the best moments in any machine. Hyperloop multiball during Deathstar or Endor mini wizards with 3 balls in the hyperloop then blowing up the Deathstar into victory multiball is so good and if you havent done it yet your missing out.

Hes watching now. Hes liked a few posts in last few hours i seen.

Is the power activated up/down scoop activated with the action button...like a diverter on Shadow go figure?

Still no talk if the action button controls the up/down diverter on the Premium/LEs? I think that's a much better add-on then the magnet!

Is the power activated up/down scoop on the premium/LE controlled by the action button like Shadow ramp diverters but vertical? Sure looks like it. Video starts at the diverter being used.

Guess we will have to wait to see some gameplay. Im hoping its used more then ambushes and not automatic but wont be a deal breaker for me.

Which podcast are you referring to? Can you please post a link?

Thanks but those are not the podcast(droids) im looking for, lol. I guess i have to be a Stern insider member to hear the podcast that Mando was referring to.

Maybe its because its the 2nd season that we find out his name is Grogu not baby yoda.

Thanks man! I thought i had a account with them. When you get a NIB it has that special gift paper with Garys face on it that i thought signed you up for free to there Insider thing but it doesnt reconize my email.

It is weird they did that since I always have to ask my 6yr old whats baby yodas real name, lol! Im really happy its 5 lanes though since 3 lanes is boring and you dont have to do much to get all 3 and dont get me started on TMNT 2 lanes(worst part of that layout to me).

100% respectfully disagree on Dad theme! My 6 yr old and 10 yr old have tons of Mandalorian toys. They both sleep with Baby Yodas, have all there desktops as Mando or Grogu, and watched the 2 seasons without me. My wife told me to buy the machine since my kids are so into SW universe. They cant wait to go to SW galaxys edge at Disney World. Every kid in the USA knows who baby Yoda is. If you want a true Dad theme look at Munsters or Iron Maiden or Elvira but Mandalorian is not the way...

Did you miss the first sentence where I said its not a Dad theme...My kids dont care if I like Star Wars or not they love the Mandalorian. They watched all 7 seasons of Clone Wars recently and the Bad Batch. Star Wars is not Dad theme its universally loved by all ages.

I know I know, lol! Grogu, The child, Baby Yoda, pick your poison i guess. Trust me my kids are always correcting me saying its Grogu not baby yoda.

They hit each other enough that i dont have to worry about them hitting me much, LOL! Brotherly love i guess. My 6yr old is the tough guy and my 10 yr old is the video gamer so it goes down very often. I actually had to buy a second build a bear Grogu because they would fist fight over who got to sleep with him!

No apology needed its all in good fun, im not being serious in a negative way with you buddy! Im sorry myself if I made you feel attacked in anyway.

I think my kids have watched more Star Wars stuff then I have ever with Disney+ now. They watch the entire movie series in order pretty often. My older 10yr old loves BTTF, Goonies, and Indy but also been on a Predator, Terminator, Matrix, John Wick kick recently. Almost all the themes that they love to watch come from Fortnite releasing character packs. Whats old is new again I guess to the point i felt like i was watching one of there shows when I checked out Mando.

Actually he was probably 9 or younger when John Wick skin came out on Fortnite and he watched the movies. He watched LOTR when Salomon is getting the Orcs army together where there coming out of the ground with the drums banging (personally the scariest scene i can think of hes watched)and didnt scare him but the wolves scene in Frozen freaked him out, go figure. Kids are strange sometimes what there into and what freaks them out, lol!

Just got my LE invoice from my distributor and was told 3 weeks for delivery.

Did you happen to listen to the Dwight and Eddie interview on Super awesome pinball show? https://directory.libsyn.com/episode/index/id/19099136
Jump alittle over half way is when Dwights part starts and Dwight talks about the differences of the two minis.

Deadflip streaming the Pro tonight at 6pm Central...

Thats where im at, I have a LE but if the Pro looks better Ill just get both and make somebody happy with a LE.

Difference money wise from LE to Pro is about $4k.

Thats my main concern is the mini playfield differences. Dwight came out and said the Premium/Le mini is more fun but he works for Stern so cant expect him to talk to bad about the game. The plastic ramps i could live with and the magnet as far as i can tell is a waste so far. The diverter might be cool but have to see how the Pro plays without it. Im excited, is it 7pm Eastern yet? Maybe Levi should do hourly updates...

I got in about a month before announcement and still was 4th down the LE wait list. Luckily people didnt have the loot when distributor called with invoice and he only went $200 over MSRP unless Stern raised there prices to $9400. No free shipping on this game either which is a first for any NIB Sterns for me that ive bought.

Ive watched both streams a few times now. Mini on the Pro looks like its handicapped looking to me with just one flipper and the playfield being flat and not moving looks lackluster when compared to the Premium/LE. Overall both games look great though but Premium/LE for is the way for me.

On the Star Wars discussion I also owned both SW pro and premium, Premium vs Pro is easy on that one. Pro version is to easy to beat. Hyperloop and being able to blow up the Deathstar never get old and make that version of the game so much more fun, so that choice was much easier then Mando has been for me.

Ive grown to dislike superbands. I noticed when i get NIB the stock rubbers grip the ball much better and I was a superband junkie up until last few months. Ive been trying perfect plays and like them more then superbands. I dont like the translucent look of the superbands compared to the deep nice colors of perfect plays either. Titans I remove right away I have never liked them.

So Im going to go with stock Stern rubbers or perfect plays in black when mine arrives.

My main gripe with superbands is drop catches with them. I religiously changed all my games for years to superbands until I got a game in trade and thought it had superbands on it when they were actually not and they played so much better with my style of play that has developed skill wise over the years.

All you guys that have issues putting superbands on im a easy hire i slip them right on no problem but you got to pay for airplane tickets, food, lodging, and entertainment but flipper rubber change is free, lol!

Then it should be game of the year...

They were talking about this on one of the TPN podcasts yesterday. I think they said that Dwight said that some are once per game multiballs so you cant keep restarting them but dont hold me to it cause im just repeating what they said. Guess we will know soon enough.

Can you provide a link to where you will be streaming? Thanks!

Just called my distributor and at first they were reluctant to give a date but after getting topper locked down they told me hopefully by beginning of July.

He looks right to me. Definitely not the newest trilogy Luke more like the Thrawn trilogy age.

I just got the final payment due invoice on LE for next week or so shipping to!!!

Favorite bash toy for me is Slimer on GB pro. Just feels right to me and the way it works makes you feel like the ball was slimed.

Life is like a box of chocolates, didn't you know that already?

I see automated has Pros in stock for anybody looking for a Pro.

Drop shipping whatever overflow Stern has at warehouse if i had to guess.

Exactly. Automated always has the best stock and will get you your game the fastest in my experience with NIBs. There just the middle man drop shipper so when you order a game it will come directly from Stern. Sucks there not doing free shipping on this game but Id ask for it see what he says.

I dont care what anybody thinks, Dwight is my favorite coder and makes the most fun coded games in my opinion. Ive hands down had more fun on SW, GB, GOT, and TMNT then any other coder has ever done and expect the same with Mando!

BM66 when it comes to Stern takes the cake for deepest coded for me with 8 main modes with multistages to each mode making some actually 4 mini modes in 1 mode and a ton of minor villian modes to play through and all the other things in the code to do. Try to play all 8 major modes with out cashing out on each episode until there done and see how long that takes and how fun it is to progress through each stage of the modes. Its a game that truly takes some time to really open up but once you get it and the strategies with the minor villians come into play man its great. I also dont think SW is deep coded but it sure is alot of fun and gets intense in those wizards. Honorable mentions for Sterns are TSPP and LOTR but deep doesnt equal fun especially for TSPP.

Hobbit on JJP games is deepest that ive played. Each mode has different shots and its like LOTR x5 code wise.

Anybody no where to order shooter lane protectors yet? Cliffy I think is flooded im hearing so was wondering if anybody knows of a quick alternative?

So no option besides Mylar so far is how I should of worded my question. I don't put anything usually on my NIB lanes i just turn eject down to minimum but seeing a few shooter lane pics of pro has me wanting to be alittle more proactive since it's going on a LE.

Cool I'll do that then. Only game I ever had issues in shooter right out of box was Ghostbusters and I ended up clear coating it and sanding/polishing it out to look new then Mylar and eventually a cliffy kit. Thanks man!

I was just told there shipping tomorrow to my distributor then be here in a week or so.

I can not find any ball guides on my LE that need washers. Which guides are you guys raising?

edit- found one on the exit side of the inner loop

double edit- did both sides of the inner loop.

is there any other potential guide chippers?

Wasnt to bad. Take off two screws in the plastic guard. Then removed the ramp wireform and ramp nut from under playfield and move the entire ramp out of the way and that will made it so you can get to the plastic covering the guide hex nuts. Then just removed the guide nuts and put washers under each end.

On the left side Stern already installed the front washer you see in pic but the actual guide end is tucked in behind there.

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Sounds like your kids needs to try a Prem/LE. Yesterday my 11 yr old was in the upper mini and looked at me and said "I love this game". I didn't think I'd like the mini myself but damn is that fun. The added diverter is so slick when it does it on the 180 ramp that I can't see not having that feature. Even the magnet if it wasn't there now would seem weird.

The magnet can be pretty crazy powered. It threw the ball up over the ramp yesterday. Dwight should power it down to a crawl to mimic Grogu slowly pulling the ball with the force and possible add in some control with the action button letting the ball go when your over the lane you want the ball to go down to award you. Also Dwight if your here(i know your watching) the shaker is terribly to powerful. Every shake is full power even at minimum setting. Calm it down and make it build up. Also theres moments where all the playfield lights are off except the mini playfield that needs some work.

Cara here. Also here is the cabinet speaker, I'm not sure if it's also different then some other LEs like my backbox speakers.

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Dwight is here reading/following so its much easier for him to see stuff here specific to his game then go through whatever happens at Stern i feel. Plus I've reported bugs before there even with videos of issues and no response where I've chatted with Dwight now a few times here and on streams so i just find it easier for him to notice by posting here.

They send a set of flipper decals along to. Not really my cup of tea but was a nice addition Tilt tossed in.

It's same material as side art blades I think so I'm not sure how well it will hold up really. It's a easy install though, just take the 2 screws out and pull the metal lane to do it. Pre punch the holes in decal before trying to put the screws back in so it don't wrinkle.

https://www.crutchfield.com/S-aIRY1vqdAma/p_777P52B/Sound-Ordnance-P-52B.html

Yep mine says it too.

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Nice! Can you show a pic of the entire playfield so I can tell the size alittle better please. Also where did you get it?

No problem anytime! Dwight knows to so im sure he will get it figured out on one of the upcoming code updates. He also knows about the mini playfield bug where if you start a encounter after multiball sometimes the mini stays vertical.

Good idea! I also have dust under mini i cleaned up when i put Cara decal on. I also went over every screw on the entire game. The minis silver head philips were super loose compared to the rest of the game. The left one was about to fall out. I also had to glue the Grogu spotlight in because it kept falling out no matter what i did to the holder.

Yes, happen to me alot so i glued it in.

I just put a small dab of glue on the bulb and waited alittle to make sure it wouldn't drip on game then installed it. Hasn't fallen out anymore. Not sure why that one wants to pop out over and over the holder seems like it's in the right spot.

The upper playfield is addictive on the LE. I find myself shooting for it constantly its so fun. Plus the up post after the exit of the mini I dont believe the Pro has that lets you see some of the best assets in the game. The diverter ramp that is used for super jackpot is so slick and makes that shot great feeling when you hit it. It switches from inner loop to 180 ramp so quick and is a great moment in the code anytime the diverter flasher is flashing. Magnet wise if it wasnt there would feel weird when you shoot the child reward orbits but it could use some code work for how its powered and possibly a type of mini game when grogu grabs the ball then uses action button in a child mode of some type.. Wire forms wise i havent had any balls fall off them at all but the upper mini diverter rejects bugged me alot. I ended up putting on felt tape on the round part of diverter and anti bounce foam tape on the actual ball stop and powered the left flipper down to 240.

I sorta feel Eddie did small throwback to Shadow with the interesting and differnet kind of gameplay upper playfield and the diverter while not controlled by the player is still there and probably best Eddie could do with Stern BOM. Really the game almost feels split with the shots all being mid playfield and then the mini and child area. The mini is coded great with some small bugs but grogu could use something to make that area more fun. Something fresh and new on how lanes are played would set that area apart and make it so much more fun just by adding the action button or alittle thinking out of the box . I mean come on it takes up the entire left corner and has two orbit inserts, a magnet on some, give us a good reason to shoot there.

Is the Premium worth the upgrade over Pro, 100% yes i think so. The premium upper mini being so different and having so much more going on plus the 180 ramp diverter shot feeling so great makes a easy choice for home buyer. Is the LE worth the upgrade over Pro probably not initially but the LE will hold value where the Pros wont once theres a ton out there. Is the LE worth the extra over the Premium, yes and no. The powder coat is nice and the mirror backglass is best in awhile but the playfield colors match the premium cabinet more.

He talking about where you can short plunge and sneak it in the mini area on pro but thats not possible on the LE since the mini is at a angle until start a mode that uses it and also its completely lifted away from the playfield at all times so its not possible.

Drop of super glue on the base of bulb between the metal prongs and let it get tacky before install and use the least amount possible. The metal holder just isnt working on that bulb, im not sure if its the shaker or the magnet or what but no matter what that holder wasnt holding the bulb in.

Put foam anti bounce tape on the ball stop, wrap the diverter with felt tape and turn right flipper power down to 245 should get you close to 90% of the bounce gone.

DID YOU PULL THE BALL GUIDE AROUND THE RIGHT RAMP AREA? This is number one thing to do before even playing a game unless you like chipped playfields.

Also turn the trough VUK down to 176 or whatever the minimum your machine will go and still kick balls out properly. Lets keep these LEs in mint condition.

Which part the ball guide?

Put washers under these circled guide posts.

On the scoop are you talking the foundry? If so a small piece of felt tape on the scoop would probably help but i havent really had much rejects since i backhand that shot.

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Yes exactly what i was going to post! Cant wait to try it.

I tried alot last night to get the DF 2 ball multiball but couldn't start it. I got the selector to land on the ? about 4 times which is hard to time right but gave me child picks award each time. Anybody else time the ? right and get the DF multiball to start?

Timing the ? with the action button reminds me of the no wammys show, lol!

The risk is hitting something besides the ? and if you do land it will it reward you the DF multiball. Dwight might have to change that rule up a bit or make the DF award percentage higher.

Yeah but your not getting the new DF multiball and you could land on something you dont want. Ive even landed the ? 4x now and nada just child picks award. Wonder if theres a percentage setting for the awards in settings?

Is that the misssion one? If so you need to start a mission and the button will turn yellow if Im thinking of the right award.

Edit- i see its the add a ball was answered above. Isnt it green during multiball when you have it?

Hmm sounds like Dwight needs to revisit that DF mode and make it alittle easier to get or get rid of the ? and just make it a item you can buy would work better.

What is the post doing? Did you update to .97 code? The post I believe is to 'push' the ball into the Child(Grogu) area instead of letting it go around the orbit. It does seem to be popping up some at the wrong times. Try holding left flipper in until ball hits spinner on your plunge. Also dont use action button to plunge do it manually it seems to work nicer to hit the spinner. That will open up the skill shots combo that is one of the most fun ways to start a game, reminds me of the secret super skill shots in Wonka.

Been there done that they still eventually fall out. What was it xmen i think i had so many wedges kept popping out. Electrical tape the crap out of those bulbs. Small dab of glue is easier and i use such a small amount the bulb can easily be taken out if i ever want to. Being that its a spot id rather glue it in, now if it was a insert i wouldnt glue it because i might want to change it out.

Here's mine at 6.5 with a 10" digital level. All my legs are basicly all the way in.

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How many modes does this game have in it? 5 missions, 4 main wizards, 9 encounter modes, Ambush, Hunter, DF 2 ball, and the 3 Razor Crests. Damn Dwight you packed this game with breadth! Anybody that says its not deep id like to see them complete the 9 encounters to make it to This is the Way final wizard! Then you also have the scope and sweet ass super skill shot combo. Only thing that needs work is the Child part of the game needs something to make it more interesting.

6.5 is universally what all newer Sterns use i believe. Anything more causes the ball to fall in a straighter line which according to some is cheating. I set all JJPs to 7 though myself and some games like Williams Indy I had at 7.2 but I never set any games under 6.5 but Ive never owned anything older then mid 90s games.

Yes 9 encounters. Each insert in the playfield is a level and each insert on the mini is a stage to the level. So 3 stages to each level equals 9 different encounters plus the wizard encounter.

I turn the equilizer to off on all Sterns that have the option. I think they sound the best that way with a subwoofer hooked up.

I backhand the U turn/180 ramp all the time also backhand the right ramp easy. Started Ambush mini wizard mode 2x now, sweet mode how the playfield lighting works like Slash mode in TMNT but needs a ball saver for a few seconds at the start.

Also I want the left scoop to have a ball saver for 2 seconds and its in the settings but doesnt work.

Hope these help. I tried to activate it in settings but that setting doesn't work yet so had to do it mid game so there not the best pics.

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Im not sure what triggers it either but i know on the second ball the super skill shot never works for me because that stupid orbit post keeps popping up and not letting the ball go through the orbit clean. Must be a bug in the code.

Man i bet your one angry mo! Whoever did it wrapped it with plastic wrap like that would help, idiots! Did you end up taking it out of the box to check it out or just send it back?

Yes every ball i hold the left flipper in but every game the up post in orbit pops up it seems at least on one of the balls. Its annoying that this little bug is in there but Dwights team will get it cleaned up soon enough im sure.

Good luck i hope its just the box damaged for you!

Any plans for a wizard similar to Jedi or Cowabunga Super Wizard mode? Game could use a ultimate wizard that requires Ambush, Hunter, and all 3 scope shots finished for a super hard to get to wizard thats beyond This is the way. Also maybe extra ball award after completing the first 3 stages(Level 1) of encounters.

I give your review a 6.5 out of 10.

I can make it to the 5th level or 2nd stage of 2nd encounter so far. I can try to record it. The key is to aim between the targets on the encounters that have the targets side by side and always be thinking about how to stop the ball for the follow up shots after each shot.

I'm still having trouble getting past level 2 of the 2nd encounter(the 5th stage overall). I realized i should be buying the encounter completion from the foundry instead of saving for extra ball every time.

I'm a upper playfield hater ill admit. I absolutely love the mini on the LE/Pre though. Once you get the timing down it becomes a lot of fun. Its probably my favorite part of the game. The video clips during the encounters and when you complete them are some of the best! Now if Dwight could just take the 2nd encounter rule that locks the playfield in away until the 3rd encounter that would be nice because I always seem to lock it in almost vertical, ugh!

Not my fault you suck at it, lol!

Really though its all good we cant all like the same stuff. You still got me beat though on GC but only by alittle. I cant seem to break the billion mark yet, probably cause i go for the mini so much or ambush mode. Hitting that scoop ramp over and over feels so good, its my second favorite part of the game.

LOL, Its definitely not at all. Something needs done to make it more fun like being able to control the magnet with the action button during the child award or think outside the box when it comes to how lanes are used possibly but no i dont think its fun. I will say if it wasnt there like the Pro I would miss it though since im use to it now but man does it need some code work to make it more fun there. Also more of a slow power to the magnet would create a more force like not the super strong whip around it does now.

You can turn the required shots down from 5 to something more easily achievable like 3 to light the right ramp for ambush. It is tough to get, out of 300 plays ive only gotten it 3x.

Child area without a doubt needs some work. Dwights the king of action button mashing how about a button mash game during Child award to power the magnet up depending on how powerful you want it to throw the ball to get different lane awards. Put a timer on it like 5 seconds or similar to Tie fighter or pizza eating mash games. How many eggs can Grogu eat in 5 seconds, lol!

Another thought would be lock the ball on the magnet and hit another ball into it for a Child 2 ball multiball. Another possibility would be lock a 2nd ball in the scoop(like GB) then knock the ball off the magnet to start a 3 ball multiball that uses the lanes under the Child as Jackpots and once collect all Child lanes jackpots lights super jackpot at the right scoop/inner loop. You could use the Child lane jackots for either multiball idea really. Shit you could take both multiball ideas and combine them so if you knock the ball off before hitting the scoop its just a 2 ball multiball but if you can lock ball in the scoop then its a 3 ball. Just trying to think of something comparable to the rest of the games code for that area, lol!

Also that DF multiball that you get from the ? in foundry is total waste of code, not the multiball but how to activate the multiball. Make that multiball buyable for 1000 beskar or award it in the Child award because I tried and tried and still havent seen it and Ive hit the ? mark alot and it always awards Child award, every single time!