We have been here 20 years and we like it, we are on the outskirts of summerlin so no extra fees. Look into sids I think that’s what they call them. This week weather has been terrible way too hot but that is the joys of living in the desert. We don’t go to the strip unless there is a concert and around us there is a ton of good restaurants, bars and shopping. We don’t gamble so if that is avicenof yours I would not move here since there is a slot machine everywhere you go.

Well you have an NHL team and NFL team now.

Spoke to a man and his family from Vegas the other day at the DMV (NC) He said everybody is building pools but can't fill them up. Also they are building homes and apartments wide open.
"What about the water situation?"
"Thats why we moved to NC. A lot more of us are heading here too"

PM sent.

We are sittin on the water tank here. I am here to tell ya, the water situation out there is a serious problem that is heading in the wrong direction. something to consider...

How to put this with out offending anyone…. Never mind. There’s got to be a better place for your family. You can go anywhere.

It's Fucking Hot!
If you can stand it, 6 months a year.
Well, good luck.

Been here since 1988 - the best way I can say this without offending anyone is - non pinsiders have been moving here in droves - crime is up - water table in lake mead is down. Not the best family environment…

Vegas will be gone in 50 years I would bet

I googled where people move to when they leave the Bay area, turns out of the top ten locations 7 are suburbs of San Francisco and the other 3 are LA, San Diego and Riverside. So ever think of just moving to a cheaper city within California? That would let you keep some of the medical perks we have here like disability insurance which can be life savers that most states don't have, along with the great weather, food, perhaps closer to your family, etc. Also be *very* careful when looking at taxes, unless you are in the top 20% of income you may pay the same taxes or even less in California than in other states believe it or not.

Ventura or Camarillo are places I know since they aren't too far from me, they are cheaper and have a more temperate climate but there's lots of smaller cheaper cities that you can relocate to in state. Being able to work remotely puts you in prime position as you can live anywhere there is an internet connection.

Is humidity a problem? There are plenty of southern states to choose from that might be way more family friendly. Why not a gulf of Mexico city or near city to get that ocean and no snow feel. If you want desert mayble Arizona or New Mexico. What do you like to do?

Edit: I'm not religious, but Vegas is "Sin City" for a reason and maybe Utah could provide a better family friendly desert type environment.

This is a bit inaccurate in as much as moving to Anaheim does not mean that you are inundated with Disneyland rides and giant mice running up and down the streets. Sure, there are definitely seedy parts of town, but you kind find that in most major cities and in Vegas, it is closer to the strip that brings that flavor. There are definite areas to avoid, but Henderson and Summerlin are pretty safe bets.

I will say that when I lived there with my wife and 2 boys a little more than a decade ago (we're up to 3 boys now lol), it was lovely. We were in the northwest, so about a 30 minute drive into Mt. Charleston with great hiking. Could also drive east and enjoy Lake Mead. SoCal beaches/theme parks etc. are about 5 hours away and flights are super easy and frequent out of McCarran. Neighbors were great and there was a sense of pride in the community, at least FAR more than in SoCal. I am sure it is even better in other parts of the country, but vast improvement from California life. Their "bad" traffic made me laugh compared to CA also. Never did try out the schools as we moved before they started, but they are pretty awful in national rankings. That said, California is pretty awful. Depends on where you move I imagine.

We have looked at going back, but real estate is comparable any more to where we are in CA and they are going to have an interesting time with water and the LOADS of people moving there. Could be a nasty crash in their future. Could just keep climbing. I think it's somewhere in the middle, leaning toward the crash side if people lose their work from home situations and/or realize they don't like the heat and lose too many paychecks to the casinos lol. Personally, we are waiting to see what happens over the next 6 months to a year.

I lived there for about 20 years, and I would never move back. I still have a lot of great friends that still live there and they all want to move out of the area.

Seems like a great place if you like gambling, drugs and tarts!

I can't see how on earth it could be a place to even consider bringing children up, unless you want them to be gangsters, gamblers or moles....

I'm looking from the outside though so wouldn't really know.

Wow, humidity causes knee and joint problems. Hmm, guess I'll take your word on that.

Seattle/Pacific NW (where I live) has become increasingly hotter and dryer over the past 22 years that I've lived here.

Doesn't bode well for the Southwest and all who live there and require water.

Just sayin'.

Sound like a urban myth but my grandma always knew when it was about to rain because her knees will start hurting..

Well, that's why I'm sure to stay in air conditioning as much as possible. Let the offspring mow the lawn and trim the hedges.

There's your answer. Youre lucky you can work remote - make it part of lifes adventure. Though young kids may be an issue.

Cant comment specifically living in Vegas - only been there a couple of times on holidays - but recently read The Goldfinch which made me think it wouldnt be a great place for kids. But thats just a novel. Great read BTW.

I liked it when I lived there about 15 years back. Most the locals would socialize in the more local station casinos (Red Rock, Green Valley Ranch) but it's still nice to go to a strip restaurant/concert/show when you want some entertainment.

Ah ok so you need a bigger city with lots of stuff to do. Vegas is cool, we're going there tomorrow for a few days and we always have fun, the strip is like a mini city really. But we like it only in small doses, couldn't really imagine living there. Still I prefer Vegas to San Francisco but then again I was never a fan of San Francisco. Ultimately I'd say maybe spend a month in an Airbnb in Vegas not as a tourist but with the intent to stay and see how you like it.

Until the drought/water situation is resolved, there's no way I'd move there. Hoover dam water level may soon be too low to generate power, and if that happens, LV is SCREWED. Way too risky right now.

Have you considered Boise, Idaho? A lot of people are moving from SF to Boise suburbs due to cheaper housing. It's at the southern part of the state, so they get very little snow/ice, and there aren't any water supply issues.

Shout out to riverside ca. It’s got a great arcade in downtown now. The game lab.

riverside is quite interesting, but it’s about an hour and change from where I live now in oc ca. If I had to move, probably something like riverside ca. The weather, not the taxes.

I just happen to be on vacation in the Southwest with my family. These photos are from Friday July 9. The water level is really low. It’s a good bit lower than my last visit in 2005. I’m at lake Powell today, same thing. I haven’t researched the history, just find it interesting. Best of luck to you and your family.

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This is just not true.

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I just moved out of Riverside 3 years ago, but I still work there. Crime and homelessness is out of control and the city leaders let it happen. Moved 20 miles south and happy as can be, for now...I would hate to see the same thing happen here, but I must say there is a big difference in the way the city handles these challenges.

Last year there was an excellent thread on, "Where is a good place to live". About 500 answers here from pinball nerds, including some thoughts on Vegas.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/wheres-a-good-place-to-live

My sister and her family are currently living in Vegas, they both want out in a serious way. If her career wasn't as successful as it was they would have left years ago.

If humid conditions outside drive you to spend all your time indoors maybe there's less movement, less exercise, sitting around and the joints get stiff. That's the only connection I can think of.

There is water concerns in Idaho and have been for years. My wife is from the area and is 4th generation Idahoan. Her family is mostly farmers outside of Boise, so much influx of new people, infrastructure is at its limits and can’t keep up. Prices are insane and Idaho is one of the fastest growing states in the nation. https://www.google.com/amp/s/idahonews.com/amp/news/local/idahos-population-growth-leads-the-nation

Idaho has big city prices but doesn’t have the amenities and things to do like the big cities. The school system is rated dead last in the country.

The good things of Idaho are it’s natural setting and how one can get to them rather easy. That also makes these settings get over crowded and makes it where unavailability is a common outcome without a reservation. We moved back to Idaho to help out with family, I can’t wait to move back to the Midwest.

Wow that is low indeed . I remember 2005 it was almost up to the overflow entry’s

The whole Hoover Dam situation:
Remember its a shared state Compact.
Much more lower levels in the near future, and not just NV but also southern CA and AZ will be affected hard.

Sorry, I'm apparently hallucinating about record temperatures, extended drought conditions, smoky air from wildfires, and trees dying due to global related causes.

Nothing to worry about here in the Pac NW.

“Global related causes” Of course.

I worked in the Las Vegas area for about a month and while I was visiting, there were a few things that I noticed that you might want to be aware of.
The local weather report lets you know the smog index and UV index every day, because the pollution makes things difficult at times. At sunrise and sunset, the pollution makes the sky turn all kinds of beautiful colors, depending on the weather and what not. It rarely rains in Las Vegas and areas outside of the city are basically desert and very arid.
New construction in Las Vegas has all kinds of restrictions, including water usage, light pollution (lights that point up) and dust. Water supply in Las Vegas is becoming a serious issue at times, making water expensive and difficult to get sometimes. As a result, a lot of people do not have any grass on their yards, because of the water restrictions and the desert environment.
The strip is a fun place to visit, but after about 2 weeks, I managed to see it all. The casinos want to take all your money and they will, if you let them.
Hoover dam is also a neat thing to visit, but after seeing it and Lake Meade nearby, I have no real desire to return.
The humidity is normally rather low, so if you have allergies, this will help. However, if you are accustomed to high humidity, just get ready for a very arid environment.
Las Vegas and Nevada in general, is a fun place to visit, but I would not want to live there. Just my opinion.
Perhaps I am just set in my ways and a product of my environment in the Southern US.

The water shortage can be and is being managed. SoCal just announced a plan to stop dumping treated waste water into Santa Monica Bay. They are planning to pump it back uphill to refill reservoirs. Las Vegas is paying for a part of this plan and will be intitled to offsets in Lake Mead.

Las Vegas is also using LESS water than they did 10 years ago because of aggressive efforts to remove lush green turfgrass by paying a bounty to property owners.

The real 500 pound elephant in the water situation in the West is simple. DRAIN LAKE POWELL! 20-25 percent of the water seeps into the ground because unlike Lake Mead, which is on hard volcanic rock, Lake Powell is on soil.

I think the most important question on the minds of most savvy pinsiders is this:

Have you ever seen anybody poop on the sidewalk in Vegas?

No. But I have seen it happen a couple times... [London and New York by CBGB's]

If you are worried about unfortunate people bothering you and stepping in their poo, don't move to the metro where they sleep on the sidewalks and live off people's "wholesome hearts".

I would refrain from asking for life advice or really for any advice on Pinside... Especially pinball advice. Too many people know what's best for you.

This probably is the best advice really as people tend to extend their personal city experience to an entire state, or sometimes even country. Like if they move to a new city and their job turns out to be crap, they lose their girlfriend and their car gets broken into then all of a sudden the entire state that city is in is "The worst place in the world to live in" along with (insert various horrible anecdotal evidence here to support claim). It'd be like me saying Nevada is the worst place to live because we saw drug users and homeless people near the Stratosphere casino. You really need to spend time in a city to see if it works for you, and then again to figure out which part of a city works for you.

Unfortunately yes....just down the block from some public fornication as well
Gotta love downtown Vegas

Crazy Levi keeping it real!
I have - more than onceactually. Unfortunately I’m sure this is common in most cities with a large homeless or drug abusing population.

The main thing that I noticed on the sidewalks on the strip in Las Vegas was some guys handing out "business cards" or small books with phone numbers to call for "adult" services. It was pervasive and in many places. Perhaps I just look like a target, but I did do a lot of walking on the entire strip in two weeks. What I heard was that this was not allowed, but I assure you, it is happening.

What does that have to do with your blatantly false statement?

I used to love visiting Vegas. It feels like a dang carnival cruise now. I will be just fine never returning again.

First off, it wasn't false. The average annual temperature in Seattle has increased in the 20+ years I've lived here. Dryness is affected by many more climate factors than simple average annual precipitation amounts - such as evapotranspiration rates and to what degree the snowpack melts and is therefore available as a water source later in the summer.

What it has to do is simple: global warming is having an adverse effect on the world's climate in ways and to degrees that we're just beginning to discover. Locations that are already water challenged and continuing to grow - such as Las Vegas - are going to face even tougher water restrictions in the future. Along with increasing extreme heat, something to consider if you're looking into moving there.