I deleted your dupe thread. Good luck with your poll.

Your poll is there. Stargate!!

Getaway hands down classic! Next on my want list now I have just scored my Whitewater

My unbiased opinion is that you should buy a nice Judge Dredd.

I have a Judge Dredd for sale if anyone is looking for one!

I don't get these sort of threads. You should buy pins YOU enjoy. Everybody likes different things. You should find a way to play the ones you're considering and decide based on that.

Best of luck.

What did you think of those games?

What's price limit?

I just got rid of a stargate, some people love them... I was very -meh-... wouldn't want to see it come back.

I love my HS2, but you have a Ritchie game in F-14.

If I were you I'd look for a Lawlor designed game.

I think JD is really fun and fast, especially for a widebody machine. It is a hard game to me, but I stink at pinball. I have had to learn to enjoy playing poorly....

There are lots of modes, humor, and insane multiballs. I never got into the JD comic so I am not sure that I 'get' all of the thematic references, but is fun without knowing the theme. Some of it is just straight up funny!

That being said, I really like (but don't have) HS2. I havent spent as much time on it as JD, but it did not seem to have as many objectives/modes. Fast and fun though. I would like to have this rotate through my collection one day. So you should go with this one, get tired of it, and then we can trade.

Haven't played the other two. Stargate is an unusual one to find in a collection. I think I would buy all three and leave phantom alone.

How about WCS 94??

Around here, HS2 at that price would be a drop-dead steal

The three DMD games you mentioned are all good games....I'd personally keep Phantom off your buy list for now.

Yeah, I agree with Max. In a two pin collection Phantom isn't going to fly unless you already really like the game.

And as was said above, it is the game YOU like that matters the most. I'd pick HS2, but I own one and still like it. Dredd didn't last a month in my house because it wasn't a good game to ME (although it has its fans that really like it). My second choice in your list would be Stargate. It is deeper and therefore can last longer.

I agree with the poll, HS2 is a way better then the others!

There is no contest between the above choices>
The winner by a mile(no pun intended) is HS2

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Hs2 for 1900 sounds fair if its in solid shaped and a nice play field, Id pick that game of your 4. Its a fast game, reminds me of T2.

If I were you, I'd also give Jackbot a real good look. I played one on location a few months ago and absolutely had a blast with it. I'd own one for under 2K. One went up for sale near Baltimore and sold for $1300 --- I just missed out on it.

You are a carbon copy of myself as a collector. We are in the same price range, like similar pins and are in the southeast.
Anyway I owned Stargate first and added High Speed 2, recently. Stargate is slower, deeper, crazy multiball! HS 2 is a fast butt kicker that will keep you coming back for more!
I would mabey sell what you have and upgrade to any 2 games on your list. F-14 is good, but no HS2 and Swords is not bad, but might not be on your list if you did not have it and one was for sale nearby. So you would upgrade for alittle more money if you traded the ones you have out.
So HS2 for sure and toss up on the rest. Play the toss ups to see what you like and HS2- just get one and enjoy your butt kickin'! LOL!

Thats good stuff, my kids pulled that on me a few times saying its their favorite, I look at them and ask them when was the last time they played it and they couldn't answer.

Best of Luck finding what you want!

Demo man, then T2, then HS2...you just made it tuff, but all great games.

Other factors to consider, of the games you are looking for, what is available and in what shape at what price? Go with the one in the best shape for the best price. You will likely sell it to buy another game in the future. If your resale value holds, you can switch it for another game in the future. My vote is Stargate if all machines are in the same shape and price.

HS2 and Judge Dredd are both great, Dredd has a DMD if that matters to you

It's good to get input. For the longest time I had no interest in TSPP. I hated the look of it, and despite being an early fan of the show, I hated the later years. It was only through many many people talking this game up to me that I got one, and that was a good move.

Sometimes you might be on the fence, and something like this can shed the light you need.

I own JD and would like a SG. I would say either of those offers good depth. HS2 is a quick and dirty, but I've never been too big on this machine.

It's a very close call between HS2 and JD with a very slight edge going to HS2.

Here's my take on asking others an opinion on pinball.

1) Asking others their opinion on pinball, gives me a good "long-term" look at the game's likely fun/flow/playability for me. It has value, but it's not enough information to make a purchase.

2) The ONLY way I can purchase a new pin is to get in front of it live (or play it on my Android phone with Pinball Arcade) and ask myself the following:

A) Does the theme call to me? (Am I entranced/enthralled/pleased by the theme?)
B) Do I like the flow? (Do a lot of shots seem to go nowhere, or does every shot feel like an integral part of the game?)
C) Does the artwork/sound please me?

Here's how playing a game in Pinball Arcade (a simulator on Android/iphone) led to a purchase, and the opinion of the masses, influenced me to keep the game after some initial frustration:
I knew from playing TAXI in "Pinball Arcade" on my Android that I loved the MUSIC, ART and THEME. That was enough to get Hunting for one. I bought a Taxi -- I couldn't play it for $H!T when I first bought it. I almost put it up for sale, but the fact that it's ranked ~60, told me that a lot of people enjoy this pin a lot. So I used that opinion (with a LOT of ratings), to not give up, and I learned a few new pinball skills that I needed in order to beat the game. So I didn't use opinions to purchase Taxi. Art/Music/Theme were the reason I HAD to have it. Rankings told me that for most people it's a fun game, and inspired me to not let it go, and keep working on my skills in the game.

I think fun/flow are going to be a bit more of an objective rating in the Pinside ratings. The reason I say this, is you could film a pro playing a game and you could MEASURE objectively, how often the ball is in play, and how often a a shot leads to some sort of valuable action or reaction, (versus a shot or bounce that goes nowhere). You could then demonstrate that some games have a lot of good shots, and others have a lot of dry bouncing and/or stop and go action... You could then show that there's a correlation between people's rankings of the fun/playability/flow and these results. fun/flow could be shown to be a healthy mix of objective and subjective results...

On the other hand -- art/music/theme are 100% subjective, and you can't measure that. Age/gender/country of origin, etc will all be factors in determining what themes/music you like.

Why don't I own a HS2? I played that game at the local expo, and it was BY FAR the best game at the show for me -- I ranked it a 10/10 out of the 20+ games I played.

I don't own a HS2 because car themes don't call out to me. Case Closed. I like them, but I don't HAVE to own them.

hope that helps...
-mof