Quoted from jonnyo:

A comment like that is offensive, and disparages the efforts of those who put in the long hours to run the tournaments at TPF, and it should not get a pass, or "true until proven incorrect" status, because the assumed victim happens to be women, or any other <insert group here>.

Quoted from jonnyo:

If you, personally, are offended by something, is it fair to indict others who "don't speak up"? Perhaps they simply are not offended as you are?

Quoted from Maken:

Misandry!
Oh wait, nobody knows what that means for some reason.

Quoted from cait001:

The problem is that pinball culture is by men, for men, and the surrounding culture reflects that in spades. This is not about nitpicking specific examples, but asking yourself if you want pinball to be as inviting to women as it is in to men.
That is a big question, and not an easy one.
To change the cultures of groups does take a lot of work. How hard was it to introduce and encourage women in to police culture? In to Office and Executive culture? Was it up to the women to do all the work or did there need to be institutional change?
This was also change that was fought by factions of the status quo at every step.
By focusing in on "yes, but what did I_ do?" you're missing the forest for the tree.
Again, this is not as easy as you specifically or saying one thing different, it is a matter of changing how you think about pinball culture, and if you want change to happen, educating yourself and working towards it, slowly but surely.
I really hope lots of people here want to change things and make it more inclusive, I really do. But this thread so far is overwhelming discouragement in regards to that progress.

Quoted from cait001:

Just .... wow.
Maybe I'll come back to this thread if I ever have more energy.
Just wow.

Quoted from jonnyo:

At some point when you try to reach consensus with people you eventually reach the conclusion that some don't want consensus, or equal treatment, or a fair examination of the facts, or any of that. All of their claims of unfair treatment are a red herring for what they really want, which is to win, or to complain ad infinitum, or to get others to dance on strings. Same as any internet troll.

Quoted from tamoore:

The inability to see or to care that a problem exists is not the same as there not being a problem.

Quoted from tamoore:

You have women telling you that they don't feel comfortable here. They tell you that it's the behavior of the people in this community that makes them feel this way.
You aren't at liberty to disagree with that.

Quoted from tamoore:

If you feel like that, you'll end up being wrong a lot. Maybe you're used to that? I don't know.
The only logical ground you have to stand on here is to understand that there is a level of Misogyny in the pinball community (because the people who directly feel this are telling you there is), yet choose not care that there is.

Quoted from jonnyo:

We have *some* women saying that. And there are *some* who might be making them feel that way (as yet, haven't seen the proof)
And we have no right to disagree?
Then you have no right to disagree with me saying you're wrong.

Quoted from cait001:

please don't bring that harassment campaign garbage on to pinside, thanks.

Quoted from cait001:

You do not have any basis to disagree with the women who are saying that, no. They are saying what they are feeling, and your are working to invalidate that. The fact that this has gone on for SO. LONG. is astonishing.
You absolutely have the right to disagree. By all means, disagree away, but please temper varied arguments against what that which has been flung our way for millennia. "might makes right" has never served us well.