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The worst pinball buying experience I have ever had

By BRW84

3 years ago


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#1 3 years ago

Folks, I just had the single worst, most insane pinball buying experience I have ever had, and I thought it might be therapeutic to share it.

On Saturday, I saw an ad for a Flash Gordon machine in Mt. Airy, NC. It was listed for $350. Yes, $350. The ad had been up for 23 minutes and I immediately messaged the guy and told him I would drive straight to Mt. Airy right then (it’s exactly one hour from me) and pay him $500. I figured I was too late, but I got a message right back saying that it was mine if I wanted it but I couldn’t pick it up until Monday morning. I thanked him, and I mentioned to him that I’d been looking for another Flash Gordon after I sold mine to a friend. I don’t regret selling it because that sale allowed me to get my grail pin, but I do miss FG from time to time and I’d love to get another one (especially at that price).

Last night, the dude texted me and said to call him at 8 a.m. Monday morning and he would give me his address. He added, “first one here takes it.” I asked him how many people I was competing with, and he told me that he had invited one other guy to come look at it just in case one of us decided not to buy it. I had already told him I’d buy it, but whatever. I just resolved to be the first one there by leaving for Mt. Airy at 7 a.m. and calling him at 8 a.m. while I was already in town.

So this morning, my pinball moving buddy Mike came over and we rolled out at 6:45 a.m. At 7:45, the seller called me. I called him back and he said he had accidentally called me while messaging someone. I asked him if I could go ahead and get his address while we were on the phone and he gave it to me.

I drove straight to his house, and sure enough, I was the first one there. He came outside and got a phone call from the other buyer. He answered it and told the guy to come on over. I told the seller that the guy didn’t need to come over because I was going to buy the machine, but he said since the guy had driven to Mt. Airy from an hour and a half away, he felt he owed it to him to look at it.

I immediately had a terrible feeling.

The seller told me to pull my car around to the basement, so I backed my truck up to the basement door and we stepped inside. The machine obviously wasn’t in great shape — the playfield was shot, high scores and settings weren’t being saved due to battery damage on the board, etc. But the cab and backglass were in great shape, and I knew I could get a spare populated playfield from the same buddy I sold my first Flash Gordon to.

And so, I handed the guy five $100 bills.

He did not take them.

“Just hang on to that until the other guy can look at it,” he said.

I immediately knew I was screwed.

The other buyer showed up about this time and stepped into the basement. He stared at the machine, and I immediately knew he knew nothing about pinball machines. Not that that’s a bad thing — everybody has their first — but I knew he had no idea what he was getting into. The guy said that he’s starting a home arcade and his wife wants a pinball machine, and he wanted to get this one.

The other buyer, the seller, my buddy Mike, and myself stared at the machine for awhile.

“Well,” the seller said, “sorry about this fellas. What do ya’ll want to do?”

“I want to buy it,” I said.

The other buyer indicated he felt the same way.

“Welp,” the seller said, “reckon it might come down to a coin toss. Either of ya’ll have a coin?”

“Listen,” I said to the other buyer, “let me show you what you’re getting into. (Seller), do you have the keys to the machine?”

He gave me the keys. I tried to remove the backglass but the lock was rusted shut.

“Have you ever changed the batteries on the board?” I asked.

The seller indicated he did not know the machine had batteries.

“Well,” I said to the other buyer, “I was going to show you the battery damage on the MPU, but the lock is busted. But I can tell you that it has battery damage because it’s not saving high scores and settings. You’ll need an Alltek Ultimate MPU, which is going to run you about $200 plus shipping. As for the playfield, it’s shot. None of the drop targets or bumper caps are original and half of them don’t seem to work, so you’ll need to fix all that or replace the whole shebang with a populated playfield. If I buy this machine, I’m going to be spending, at minimum, about $1,500 to get it to where it needs to be. And that’s because I’m doing the work myself. If you hire a good tech, they’re going to charge $100 to come to your house and $60 to $75 for each subsequent hour. So that’s where this is right now.”

There was a long pause. The other buyer indicated he still wanted the machine, and the seller indicated he was right sorry about this whole mess.

We ended up flipping a coin. I lost.

I walked out without saying a word. As I was leaving, the seller shouted, “Hey, hang on a minute, we gotta make sure he has money!”

I did not stop.

#5 3 years ago
Quoted from ForceFlow:

Wow, that's crazy.
I've never actually heard of something like that happening before.

I think I've bought about 13 machines now and I've never had an experience like that. It was surreal.

#8 3 years ago
Quoted from Hayfarmer:

I think you got lucky. If you paid $500 and put $1500 onto it, you're backwards. Go find a nice one for less money. Crappy situation, but you'll be better off by not getting it

At the prices I'm seeing for Flash Gordon these days, I think I could still come out ahead if I did it up right (even though I wouldn't sell it if I do end up getting another one). Frankly though, I probably did dodge a bullet, but at this point I'm less pissed about losing the sale than the time wasting bullshit I had to experience.

#12 3 years ago
Quoted from bigehrl:

exactly, it was all principle on this one. what a shithead that guy is. i would never even consider exposing someone to that level of discourtesy. not for anything. and while it's easy to want to place blame on the other buyer, he really didn't do anything wrong other than make a choice he's going to really regret when he brings it home.

Yeah, no hard feelings against the other buyer. I purchased a basket case when I first started out, and he's about to learn the same hard lesson I did.

#17 3 years ago
Quoted from diode:

Thanks for sharing your bad experience hope it helps you feel better to vent. It was not meant to be other deals will be at your door soon enough. The newbie has no clue what he is in for I would laugh about that all day. The seller obviously knows nothing about pinball they probably did not know how to get legs off and if they did the head was left up. I moved an older Bally into basement with head locked once cause it started to rain when I got home face was mashed against the back of head can’t see where your going was not fun.

Since the lock to the backbox was rusted shut, I can guarantee he loaded it onto his truck with the head still up and proceeded to drive an hour and a half back home with the wind hitting it.

#19 3 years ago
Quoted from Billc479:

Any chance you got the buyers name so you could buy it later? Once he’s into it, he will probably be wishing he listened to you.

In retrospect, I wish I'd given the other buyer my card.

#20 3 years ago
Quoted from jbrady65tv:

I frequently make the same typo but it amused me to think the seller said "Welp"

That was no typo, hahaha

#24 3 years ago
Quoted from vdojaq:

Are you out of your mind? The second he started that crap you should have told him call the other guy off or go pound sand! You knew you were walking into a shit show.
Still a funny story!

I suppose at a certain point morbid curiosity took over.

#42 3 years ago
Quoted from PaulCoff:

1st one to put cash on glass should be the buyer.
*One thing that sucks is that you had to bring “pinball moving buddy mike.” That guy had to watch the whole thing and come back with you without a pin to play. You better take care of Mike. I usually buy and move machines on my own because of sh@t shows like the one you dealt with. It’s cool if I see it happen alone and time helps me get over it, but to have another person verbally remind you about “that one time you tried to get a flash pinball machine,” just makes it more painful. Sorry for the loss brother.

I bought Mike breakfast and always try to keep him compensated with some quality beer, haha. He's a good friend.

#85 3 years ago
Quoted from rai:

You should have played a game of Flash winner takes all.

Of all the things I regret in life, not thinking of this idea at the time may be my biggest regret.

#114 3 years ago
Quoted from RC_like_the_cola:

That's crazy. Did the other guy have to pony up $500 (like you offered) or did he get it for the list price of $350?

I have no idea, it never came up. I hope he got it for $350.

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