This is the part about Stern that just drives me NUTS. You have a great license and could blow it out of the water with SOMETHING unique. The prison could have/should have been the wow factor focal point of this pin.

I still love the whole package but seriously, wtf! Maybe Stern does need to get into other areas besides pinball. I'm thinking DP, Jpop and JJP are just going to kick their ass going forward.

I suggested this right after the game was released. TWD pro is pretty basic when it comes to any types of "features" to be honest with you. Other than the doors opening on the prison, its pretty bare of neat gizmos.

I shot a few pinball videos at SS Billiards today. Here is a quick game of The Walking Dead Pro.

I haven't played a stern that I REALLY love yet. Had a met pro. Sold it. Haven't missed it for 1 second.

You forgot to include:

Sincerely,

Gary Stern

Please stop it with the blatant use of "ladies" as a derogatory term around here. I'm pretty lenient on you guys in general, but lately there's been a huge influx of female bashing, tons of people reporting it, and we've already had 2 female Pinsiders leave the forum in the last month due to bullying and sexism.
I don't understand how sexist terms are any less worse that racist remarks and all the other non-allowed terms on here. I'm not trying to grab a soap box and start preaching anything, but as one of approximately a dozen active females on here, I want you all to know it is pretty offensive and does get really old really fast.

I want YOU to know people are sick and tired of PC crap.

Eggman when did you become such a downer?
I like the old eggman better

Oh here we go

There was a better egg? I've been a member since 2009 and was on RGP since 2005. He's never been 'upbeat'. Are we missing sumpthing?

Dang guess I've never notice till this week

This I have to agree with. I think it's funny when ice makes those comments, it's all in good fun. People are to PC these days, you can't even joke around anymore.

If a woman farts & drinks good beer then her girlfriends might giggle & call her a man

If a man drinks Pinot & wears a pastel yellow polo his buddies might laugh & call him a lady

That's not the same as hateful nasty racism

Most people haven't hence the two thumbs up and not 120. Anyway, maybe I've been a little negative lately so I'll cool it.

That being said, NOT being able to say "ladies?" Are you F'ing serious? If the two female members can't take it we don't need them. There will be plenty more women who will be interested in pinball that CAN handle it. Stop trying to police everything.

Life isn't fair and the quicker you realize that the stronger you will be. Sick of it.

I'm no longer saying anything negative about a game you like again. This is far more important than pinball.

Blondetall has been a straight shooter and a strong moderator. This isn't us vs them but a fellow Pinsider pointing out an uncomfortable comment.

I haven't seen any threats or sexism here, and I know, as I'm a total sexist,

But if Blondetall is bothered we should find out why and try to accommodate. If we can't accommodate then at least we can discuss.

Otherwise boys will be boys. No fairness there. Sorry ladies. That's nature.

But we don't have to be total dicks either.

Respectfully, NO we shouldn't.

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Yeah, I guess on a public forum where the # 1 community rule is to be nice, it's just too much of me to ask for people to actually play nice. I mean, we females are obviously just asking for it by hanging out in a male-dominated hobby. But honestly, the ones of us that are active here know what we're getting into and let things slide. Men will be men. And I surely don't go around editing posts or sending warnings for sexist comments. You all should know that by now. But with people actually leaving the forum because of it and multiple reports daily from plenty of males, I thought I'd post a reminder.

In case anyone missed the community rules link, I'll just paste some of it here for you:
Rule number one: be nice!
It's really simple, when you're on the Pinside, try to be nice to others and you'll find that they'll generally be nice to you to.

Keep your contributions civil, tasteful and relevant (on the subject of pinball). The aim of Pinside.com: to provide the best place on the web for people who love pinball!

NO FLAMING OR TROLLING

On Pinside.com, flaming means posting something that's angry and mean-spirited - the online equivalent of flying off the handle. Trolls say deliberately provocative things just to stir up trouble - it's not polite, so please don't do it. This includes using multiple identities to cause disruption and arguments. Multiple identities are not allowed on Pinside.com.

Pinside.com is meant to be a supportive and friendly place, so please help to keep it that way.

UNLAWFUL, HARASSING, DEFAMATORY, ABUSIVE, THREATENING, HARMFUL, PORNOGRAPHIC, SEXUALLY ORIENTED, RACIALLY OFFENSIVE, PROFANE OR OTHERWISE OBJECTIONABLE MATERIAL IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
All the types of content above break these Community Rules. Please don't post it, or you may find that your account has been closed.

The only reason I even knew about it was because of multiple reports on this thread. I quoted it here because it was used twice in this thread and multiple other threads. Want to know how many reports I got on this thread: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/pinball-f-ing-porn-ladies

And don't worry. We've got plenty of people messaging us defending their rights to be as racist, sexist, political, etc as they want to be here also. So if anyone wants to join in with their opinions, feel free to start a moderator feedback thread.

Listen Pal, you're not Judge and Jury. Using the term "ladies" in no way is any of the above.

Well, I've broken about 9 out of 11 of those content parts listed so far.

C'mon guys, it's Blondetall, not some feminist spewing pita.

Pinside is pretty lenient. Hey Egg, relax. Aka back the F*** down.

Not trying to defend Blondetall, she does well without my help, but you're being a douche now.

Who imposed you voice of men here?

Two different situations completely

This thread is full of sober bickering

That other thread is full of drunken regrets

I'm not sure which thread is worse though lol

Some of the pinside ladies post offensive shit too. But I like it, cause I'm a dude

+1

Working on it Wiz.

Really is going to be cool to see The Hobbit, TBL, and TWD at the expo this week. Would be cool to see TWDLE and THLE side by side for comparisons since they cost nearly the same. And I don't expect literally side by side. I mean pics, videos etc. I am a Walking Dead fan and TWD looks nice to me.

I was told at the show that the TWD Pro there had v1.06 installed. I haven't played one yet (didn't feel like waiting in line to play with a line behind me and all that nonsense) but I watched a little and thought I saw some stuff on the DMD that I didn't remember seeing in any of the v1.05 gameplay videos I watched online.

Wow. Three updates in a week. Great promise on updates so far.

Actually, she is judge and jury when it comes to her moderation. You are not authorized to criticize her either. You can start a moderator feedback thread or discuss this with her in PM, but your time in this thread is done.

But, when was pinball ever all about neat gizmos?

Says the guy with two stern pins.

Yeah, a vari-target in there would have been neat. Good DMD animation to match the position, use it for other mode stuff, good idea.

v1.10 for expo

Since the invention of the flipper....

Ha, good one. . But if you look at Metallica, or AC/DC, which are very popular, what vast array of gizmos are on those machines that are any better than TWD? I personally think TWD is going to end up being a very popular and code rich machine. All Stern pro machines have two maybe three 'gizmos', this one is no different.

I hope so.

Settle down, its not meant as a "derogatory" term towards "ladies". Since I'm married with 3 girls, trust me, there is no "sexism" in my family, not that I care what you think. And I'm not about to post to a "moderator forum" here because someone called me a sexist and a racist on this board and I want my response on the record. I know you aren't implying that I have been directly sexist and bullied some female member on Pinside? Although that is what you seem to be implying. If so, that's RIDICULOUS, and not factual.

For the record, my girls play volleyball, and they always use the phrase "let's go ladies", and I like it. When we are going out somewhere and one of them is lagging behind, its "let's go ladies".

I'm also sick of this PC nonsense. What a JOKE. It's not sexist and to compare it to racism. That's OFFENSIVE, and your soap box has just gotten really old fast and certainly very offensive.

Now, back to talking about TWD Ladies, how about that…….

Without Carol last night, Rick, Bob, Glenn and Daryl would be dead.

I honestly wasn't trying to compare it to racism, and looking back wouldn't have put that in there. The point I was trying to make is that anything that is considered racist around here is immediately removed and moderated, while day after day, thread after thread, sexist remarks fly and seem to be encouraged. There's a certain line that we don't let people cross, but sexism doesn't factor in. It does get really old really fast, but again, I'm used to it from you all and don't normally moderate it.

The main reason for the posting was a reminder that we're supposed to play nice around here, and if there's constant behavor that is being reported and people are leaving because of it, then as a moderator I'm supposed to be doing something about it by at least educating people of it. We're asking people to think before they post something on a public forum and treat each other with respect. And anyone that wants to discuss this further can PM me or start a moderator feedback thread so that this thread can continue on topic.

Edit... Ice... stop editing your post and maybe you'll get a proper response since you've changed your message 3 times now. PM me if you want. If you want a public record, then start a separate public thread on it if you want to. Again, I showed up to this thread on a direct report to your post. I personally have not been stalking to you to know what you are or are not doing, but with mutiple reports from people regarding the degrogatory use of the term "ladies," then that's what I was addressing since there was a prime example to show. You're certainly not the only one on this forum that's ever posted anything controversial or sexist, otherwise I would have just messaged you instead of making a public statement. Basically pick any thread and you'll find someone posting boob pics, demeaning women on calendars, etc. It was a public call to draw attention to an issue and ask people to think before they post and be nice, done as a moderator and not as a pissed off female. Believe me, if I couldn't handle the heat, I would have left this forum a long time ago.

Yes, thank you, after Rick threw her to the curb!

Great start to the show. Where are they heading next? Gets me excited for the pin.

Seeing the pin giveaways as part of the show leaves me hopeful that AMC does really care about the product and we may get some good voice work.

I did PM you and yes I edited my message to accurately reflect my thoughts. I just don't believe comparing "racism" to "sexism", especially with a group of 99.9% men is appropriate. <edited>

<edit> Blondetall is a "very cool chick" that is doing an impossible job, it not easy putting up with a bunch of dicks like myself sometimes

...so back to the thread - Been putting a lot of plays on it since it arrived at the house on Saturday. The outlanes are VICIOUS. This is not a game that you want to let the ball get out of control. I closed the outlanes up to the close setting yesterday, and its still 1.5" from the edge of the rubber to the edge of the rubber. Its been frustrating to see so many drain out. However, I think its appropriate to the theme. Endless zombie killing isn't what TWD is all about. Survival is the name of the game, and there might be better ways of making you feel desperate, but shitting your pants every time the ball even gets near the outlanes sure is one way to get the job done. This game is definitely giving me "just one more-itis"

I've also got some kind of mental block going on where I'm visually convinced I've got a right slant to my level, but then check it in 3 different places and its all good, and if anything is a hair to the left.

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Wow, even moving the outlanes all the way in still doesn't help much.

I like the "just one more-itis" feeling.

Well just shave that hair then
Remember - closer to the bone, the sweeter the meat.

For comparison, I believe the wide setting is 2.78 miles apart. So yeah, it helps, but still....

This makes me kind of happy. I enjoy having some games in my collection like IM that are fast and brutal. Even STLE, while fast, has pretty long ball times. Sounds like TWD will fit into my collection nicely.

Is does kind of go with the survival aspect of the game. Make good shots, control the ball and you live to fight another day!

Painfully true. Who would buy a TAF, LOTR, TSPP, etc if the voices were generic?

Yes, I know future software releases might fix that... but was TSPP released with generic Homer voices when it came out? I'm guessing no.

Honest question about "authentic voices". Does the room feel that the video game version of The Walking Dead isn't authentic because it doesn't follow the show? After playing a bunch, I don't mind the redneck voice. I think He actually sounds somewhat like Shane from the show. The part I dislike is the tone he's taking. He's somewhere in between Shane's voice, and Merle's sass. With a bit too much sass in my opinion. As soon as I get some code, I'll try swapping out some sounds.

We're all complaining about it, but we also all say we love Merle. But he was often very inappropriate with his tone and remarks...

Again I speak up on this constantly I love The Walking Dead Show. I know their voices and associate that with their characters. Anything else is not the same I don't care how close it is(I think of BDK pinball, close matches, but far enough away from actual that it was a detriment, not a help). Either they use it and it matches or they do their own, which if they do I just think needs more "depth" and exciting gloom/horror to it. I don't want the Walking Dead to be light hearted, funny voices. I want them to be powerful, darker, "oh my god, zombies are coming" voices. The playfield, dots are all darker, zombie killing death and guts, make the call outs match that. Strong call outs with excitement to them!

Merle brings humor and that voice to the show but also has MANY quotes in the show of ass kicking survivors, like many of them are.