Game looks damn cool to me with great detail. But WHERE IS THE LCD?!? When Stern announced back at ST's release that "future games will feature an LCD" ... how far into the future were they talking ?? Even if you can get the LE for $7800-$8000 ... I don't see the justification for the price tag. I guess people will pay that though? I can pass on this one.

Seriously, do folks not see a HUGE improvement in terms of artistic creativity, toys, and overall look from Stern's Star Trek?? I've never watched this show so I was not looking forward to this reveal ... however, WOW. I suddenly want one. When I bought into WOZ I was expecting this level of artistic detail in the toys but was disappointed with the finished product (albeit a somewhat fun game). TWD may not have an LCD but I'm seeing significant more detail in the toys and overall look!

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You're right that I only compared one toy ... but I don't think the witch is the most "minimalistic" of them. I could have shown the crystal ball with debug code in it (that every game I've ever seen shows), or the wizard etching plastic (terribly weak), or even the flat-plastic monkey, etc. Bottom line ... there really is no figure/sculpture in WOZ that really screams WOW and the overall artistic feel to the game is sorely lacking. Yes, beautiful playfield and pretty twinkling insert lights (and cool video animations)... but I think it was overpriced and fairly disappointing in the end. To be fair ... I have nothing against JJP as a company and Hobbit may very well knock it out of the park. And Lord knows I have been equally critical of Stern's Star Trek LE which I also thought was lacking a lot for a game priced at 8K (ish).

Most innovative? Well, they were at one time. But the new iPhone looks about as good as the old Samsung S4! They're still behind. And the new iWatch? I'm not seeing anything killer about it. The "Onion" summed it up well:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/features-of-the-new-apple-watch,36890/?fb_action_ids=10152248078611556&fb_action_types=og.shares&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582

+1! Sums up my thoughts. And the LE is overpriced too for a standard body non-LCD game.

But hey, I hope a lot of people buy them so they start showing up for resale in another year at a discount.

Seriously?? You heard the "LE's are selling out"?? As if all of the distributors have talked to each other and there is even a rough estimate on sales at this point? And on top of that ... Stern hasn't even announced how many LE's they are making!! I think they are waiting to just gauge interest before saying how many they might make. But there is already a silly rumor of games selling out. Hmmm. I guess we're right back to the LE hype game and mass hysteria people will miss out on a game they THINK might go up in value.

I hope Stern builds 1000 LE's.

Okay, my bad. 600. And how could any one distributor (or anyone for that matter) know how close they are to selling out 600 in a distributor-based model?

It's interesting too. They felt they could sell 800 STLE's no problem (for $200 more) but only 600 Walking Dead?? Someone does not have a good feel for the market at all.

I make enough money to buy an LE, but I'm sticking to my guns on this one. No way I'm paying anywhere near 8K for a pinball game (even when it looks as cool as this one). The days of 6k LE's looks like a dream now. And since this Pro has SOO much less than the LE and they are still asking close to 6k for it ... forget it. Terrible pricing model. There are just too many good pinballs out there you can buy HUO mint for $4500 and under.

LOL, seriously?? You really don't think a Premium is coming at some point? Or how about even a "Vault Edition"?? Or a new "Special Edition" a' la Luci? lol. And when you cry about it later there will be a hundred jerks here who tell you they don't blame Stern one bit for making as much money as they can (so basically quit your whining.) Either you absolutely love the game and the look and don't care if you lose a couple thousand when you go to resell it ... or you are setting yourself up for major disappointment. That is the sad reality of NIB pinball today.

Because you don't already like the Pro artwork better than the LE? You might be in the minority there.

And why did Stern just cut back to 2 new games a year? Why did Stern go from 800 ST LE's down to 600 TWD LE's? And why did JJP need a new financier to keep them afloat? And where exactly are you reading sales numbers that suggest pinball sales/earnings are thriving?

I would also love to know how you figure "A very small percentage of actual buyers are worrying about what they can sell the game for in a month." From my experience most are very concerned.