Wow, sensitive much? All the bit**en and whining going on here…and you pick this to rage about? Don’t harsh everyone’s buzz just b/c you aren’t getting a Venom. I’m pumped. Mods are more than appropriate here.

Blow up the meme bots maybe…

Owner's thread might be more your speed. Hype thread is crawling with haters like me who dislike spammy posts.

Checking Pinbal Map daily to see if any Venom Pros appear nearby...

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SkyKing2301 just received my set of the Venom Flasher covers and they look awesome! all I need now is one of my games to show up to install them in! Love the quality and great packaging, thanks!

Probably not until later next week, but it's getting close...

Thank you so much! I'll share your compliment with the shipping department (a.k.a. my wife).

I'm so excited to see them in a game soon.
Seriously I'm being as patient as I can waiting for my LE, I'm over here like

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... though after the Bond debacle, at least I know the longer it takes to get here, the better the code might be. Still ...

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I saw this Venom wrapped GT-R at the local cars and coffee in Scottsdale. Pretty sweet..

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My wife does all the shipping as well… and does a knock down job at it!

All you need now is one of our Venom or Carnage shooter rods for your LE.

Longer wait = better code is a great way to look at it!

Up to 5% of us getting the PRO!

The venom code look much further along than bond. It seems like MGM mad stern rush the bond rollout. It was definitely a mess.I don’t see that happening with venom.

My distributor told me they were currently on the line so it should be soon!

I don't know if that is saying a lot.

Are these shipping?

Yep locations should have theirs now or very soon.

My distro said it had been shipped. So waiting now.

I saw Super Electric in Cleveland and a few other places closer to Chicago have them on the floor.

I got an email yesterday morning saying mine was shipping and I would get a tracking update when available. No update yet.

I know this is the hype thread, I just wanted to opine about why some people seem down on this pin or why it’s not a bigger seller.

1) poor sales out of the gate is not uncommon. Look at JJP Potc spinning disc gate. Now less than 700 people on Pinside list Potc (all 3 versions) in their collection.

Stranger Things (less than 800 of all 3 versions listed in Pinside collections).

TS4, Godfather BKSoR and so on, it’s just as likely for a pin to be a ‘sales flop’ as for it to be average or big seller.

Godzilla almost 4000 listed in people’s collections.

I’m sure some will say the big sellers are much better pins but it’s subjective. Also sometimes a pin won’t catch on until after they’re out of production.

On top of that the new pins like bond and foo as well as the delivery of back orders like DP, Godzilla, JP, Elvira and Maiden.

Venom is not simply competing with Foo Fighters or Bond but a lot of heavy hitters from the back catalogue as well as the softening used pin market.

I think Venom had an uphill climb from the start. As well as the high price $13K LE and 1000 not a small number compared to a lot of earlier pins like DP or JP etc.

I think this is VERY Accurate. And I believe once this hits locations and homes in large numbers that there will be a much higher demand.

A big gap between reveal and shipping— atypical for Stern—is an unhelpful hype killer.

I was on waitlist list for Elvira and Maiden for close to a year. Got the call a few months back both were available. Also got DP not too long ago. I had to back out of Elvira because it was too much at one time.

I suspect with Stern moving to the new factory these past few weeks, that delayed things a bit. New factory looks huge, they should hopefully be able to catch up quickly and start getting a lot of games out of the door.

I’m out of room and content with the games I have, but I’m excited to play Venom on location soon.

I have a feeling it won’t set the world on fire, but will have a moderate following similar to Mando. If nothing else it looks like ZY’s 2nd best art package behind TMNT.

Poor Elvira... I did the same thing. Too many games at once and the prices!

I have played Elvira a lot, great pin but went with Venom for something new/different but it's a gamble..

Not gambling on that either .
If I add any more games it will have to played first and loved . At these prices the game has changed .

Has anyone received a notification about an LE shipping? Or just pro’s?

Still on Pros, and overseas LEs are first, so I wouldn't expect to see domestic LEs shipping until the end of the month.

Pro was delivered to my local watering hole last night. Built Sept 11, on location sept 12th. Wow! I helped set it up. First thing I noticed was how barren the playfield is on top and especially underneath. By far the most barren game I've seen in a long time, maybe ever. I remember when Bond pro showed up and I was struck by how open the bottom side of the playfield was, and this is way worse than that even.

I did get a few games on it and it does shoot nicely and was fairly fun, as to be expected. Just barely scratching the surface of what the game has to offer as far as code and everything so I'll save any more reviews until I have a lot more time on the machine. First impressions are very mixed though. Artwork looks great, callouts are decent I guess, music sounds good but kind of generic butt rock. I personally would have a super tough time shelling out the cash for a game this lacking in features. Either way I am looking forward to spending a lot more time with the machine and learning it. Maybe the gameplay will take up the slack for everything else, but then again I tend to not enjoy Dwight games as much. Premium will probably show up sometime in early-mid October so I am looking forward to trying that as well!

Yeah just played some. Feels like a game they should have price adjusted down by several thousand. Easy game to play and leave with no interest to add to the line up : (

Munsters Pro was SUPER barren underneath. Lots of plywood visible. Worse than Bond Pro, and I think Venom Pro (though I've just seen pictures of VP as mine isn't here yet).

Thats very possible, I haven't ever seen the bottom of Munsters. Tbh, I hate being the "look at all the exposed plywood" guy but it was just something that struck me when I saw it.

Edit- I just found a picture of the bottom side of Munsters, I think Venom has it beat by quite a bit. That big gap in the middle is weird but thats just due to lack of a light board there where you do see one on most games (including Venom)

For your amusement.

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Ah you beat me to my edit! Now I gotta look at Venom again just to get a refresher

I know DRI374 showed it on one of his Raccoon City Pinball twitch streams, but I can't remember which one to look again.

I just played it today as well…….just not much there. This one maybe collecting dust in distributors warehouses.

The game is a blast! Dwight was awesome on stream and I can't wait to stream it again soon. It honesty took me by surprise how much I love shooting this game.

I think you're going to help sell a LOT of Venoms now that you've let the cat out of the bag about the Kinetic Sex Satisfaction the lock system gives.

Good stream. I enjoyed it.

Game looks decent. My local spot has one in. Hope to pop in and play this weekend.

Good stream game looks great.

Enjoyed the stream. I like listening to Dwight as he gets so excited about his craft.
Hope ya'll get to stream a premium/LE, too.

Great stream, the pro is super fast!

Dwight described it as a 'Rogue-like' rather than RPG.

Low hype on this one.

Longest time from announce to shipping in Stern history. Hype kill.

Played the pro tonight. In spite of being the cheapest, barren commercial game Stern has ever done (yes even cheaper than LZ or SW) I still somehow enjoyed it, even without a good understanding of the rules.

While not visually impressive the fast lock system makes it seem like one of the fastest games ever made. Having a ball just barely clear a ramp and instantaneously be back at the flipper is super cool and I doubt will lose its charm after playing the game over and over.

I was prepared to walk away disappointed by the lack of mechanisms and been-there-done-thatness of the game as I was with GOT and SW, but unlike those games, it won me over. Is speed and what appears to be a deep and nuanced ruleset enough to carry a game? Time will tell, but I enjoyed it way more than it thought I would with how little is on the PF.

Oh and it’s absolutely gorgeous. This might be my favorite art package of any modern Stern. Well done as aways, ZY.

Biggest negative to me right off the bat is how poorly lit the game is. Zero spotlights to light up the middle/upper PF. Pinstadium is gonna sell a ton of units for this game

That’s assuming the game sells a ton of units. It’s definitely going down a Stranger Things path of lackluster hype, lackluster sales, short production run. But I would argue STh has a lot more theme hype keeping it relevant. Not sure Venom can rely on that alone. Good that it’s finally showing up on location so we can get some real feedback. Jury is still very much out.

Litt here in the Twin Cities posted about the lighting earlier today. A few well placed spotlights REALLY make the playfield pop!

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Two spotlights on the right sling seems excessive, but the others look like good upgrades.

I agree, this is not a theme that has the same wide appeal, Stranger Things is a strong, current and popular franchise.

Still - I think sales will pick up when people try the game. It looks fast and the rules look interesting.

Tremendous. It's amazing how Stern always cheaps out on a few extra LEDs that could make all that art pop!