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The Vegas PHoF Opens 4/14/21 In New Location

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    #19 3 years ago
    Quoted from Electrocute:

    Should be a nice Fall destination. Only visit Vegas when the temps are cool and football games are being played.

    I'll take 95-110° dry heat of Las Vegas over just 80° of humid Florida weather. Plus no Hurricane or tornado threats in Vegas....

    #24 3 years ago

    And, it's a wrap for PHoF location two......

    #27 3 years ago

    Greta news for PHoF location #3.. It looks like Nevada Guv Sisolak will open the State up 100% late tonight. Casinos, with PHoF operating the same way, will only require masks but no occupancy restrictions.

    #30 3 years ago
    Quoted from Steve_in_Escalon:

    The Governor announced that he is opening Nevada at 100% on June 1st. Masks will still be required.

    I stand corrected. A confusing message came in from a Gaming Licensee.

    #44 3 years ago
    Quoted from Electrocute:

    When does the carpet arrive?

    As Sam Kinison would say: NEV-VER.

    #60 3 years ago

    No worries, if customer traffic does not increase 2-3x thanks to location (not an easy walk from even Trop & LV Blvd in the Summer) or staff treating customers poorly; maybe a new donation thing will need to be started to keep the doors open.

    Some of the cheerleaders from the other thread will preach the virtues of the PHoF and post their donation schedule and urge others to do the same. Some will decline to do so.

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    #115 2 years ago
    Quoted from too-many-pins:

    I have posted on this thread like a dozen times basically trying for two things. The first point I have been trying to make is really pretty simple - TIM IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE. (Say what you want - think what you want - do what you want but regardless Tim has been doing it his way successfully for longer than most people posting here have been alive and it isn't going to change now). Haters will hate him and I doubt he really cares.
    But more importantly I would love to know what is going on - see some updated pictures - know how Tim made out with the move - etc.
    The title of this thread is: The Vegas PHoF Opens Tomorrow 4/14/21 In New Location
    I am just trying to find out as much as possible about that new location NOT debate how Tim should run the place. I guess that is asking too much?
    Bottom line is if I don't like the service I get somewhere I go I just don't go back. If you hate the way Tim runs "his place" it is really pretty simple go to another arcade. But don't expect the owner of a successful business to change just because you don't like the way he runs his place.
    PLEASE HOW ABOUT WE STOP TALKING ABOUT TIM & start talking about the machines/ layout/ etc of the new building. I am tired of hearing about "Tim isn't a nice guy" anyone who knows him or has visited PHOF already knows that. I was all excited to see a dozen new post here when I got on Pinside today then I open the thread only to find more people complaining about my post or about Tim. PLEASE how about some updates on the new location!

    Here's your update from this past Wednesday, April 28th at 7:45 pm. 17 cars in the lot, six using Handicapped spaces. All modern Stern pins were on with a few being played.

    Aboot 80% of the other SS pins were on. EM's, which are my reason for visiting, were MAYBE 40% on. None of this is for covid since all games are spaced the same at the moment and as I mentioned, all modern Sterns were on. Many Post-It Notes mentioning: "Burning smell, ball wont kick out, Flipper dead, DOA, Game caught fire, etc" on the turned off EM's.

    So much for the staff getting all the Big Hit Shed EM's ready during the shut down for the soft opening. The ball bowler from the just closed Trop building was in the new place but not assembeled.

    Finally, the Herb Silvers/Retro Pinball KoD was LED'ed and looked like crap. The lamp sockets are already going bad as the LED's are dim and fluttering. Both for playboard GI and under inserts.

    I enjoyed playing the Bally Zip-A-Doo (from Wiley Amusements) and the two Williams Line Drives. Although one has an Upper Deck playfield retrofitted. I don't recall Williams having a conversion kit for this. One inning for a quarter is pretty crappy as those playfields were designed to be Out Happy.

    $50.00 donations being sought to get your name added to those scheduled to be put up on the wall. T-shirt included. Or, $20 for the T-Shirt only.

    The repair bench and parts hoard from the old place was strewn around the back of the building. Not sure why it didn't go into the new service area. Maybe no room...

    I gotta say the men's restroom was clean, well lit and didn't smell like a pile of burning tractor tires. Family/assist restroom was blocked off.

    When I left at 8:30, there were 14 cars there. Not sure how many were workers/volunteers.

    #116 2 years ago
    Quoted from too-many-pins:

    Bottom line is if I don't like the service I get somewhere I go I just don't go back.

    Regarding this, remember when Lee Iacocca said : "If you can find a better car, buy it"?

    A lot of people took him up on that offer.

    #118 2 years ago
    Quoted from too-many-pins:

    Were there a lot more machines in the new place compared to the old location? How "full" is the new location so far? Do you know if Tim got completely out of the old location? More curious about the move then the condition of the machines or number of cars in the parking lot since he really isn't fully open yet anyway. And I guess lastly did you feel things were spaced out enough that you felt OK playing machines without people right on top of you since this Corona Virus mess is still going on?
    I am trying to remember but I think this week was suppose to be the deadline for him getting moved out of the old location? May 6th or something is what I remember seeing somewhere.

    If you recall from when the new location was first announced, the old location was supposed to be vacated long ago. Not sure if an extension was granted or was a month-to-month agreement made etc.

    As for being ok with spacing, there are probably a hundred additional machines versus what was in the old place. Spacing is wider, 2-3 feet between most machines. Wider spacing between the odd machines since the building has under half the machines it can hold.

    Nevada is open for business. All of the local casinos, that had Temp Checks and fewer entry points have done away with all that over the past month. Masks are still required but most, if not all, slots are back in service. I have no issue if machines are spaced like at the old place. We are not in the middle of a pandemic. We are at the end. People are vaccinated.

    #146 2 years ago

    Report for too-many-pins:
    May 2, 2021
    3:00pm PDT

    Looks like the old PHoF has been vacated and is now a Jiu Jitsu studio...

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    #148 2 years ago

    The above post was made in jest as it is a photo (taken today) of the first PHoF location that closed over ten years ago.

    More to come....

    #150 2 years ago

    The old location that recently closed has been vacated. Even the trailer, shipping container and general garbage from out back are gone. Note the nice "We have moved" sign....

    Judging by the "Available" sign , it looks like the deal for Terrible Herbst or whoever to put a car wash on the site fell through.

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    #152 2 years ago

    PHoF Las Vegas Boulevard location report for too-many-pins:
    May 2, 2021
    3:30pm PDT

    At this time there were 372 pins on the floor on legs. Some do not have their heads attached. This does not include the pile of totally disassembled games pictured. It also doesn't include pins in the non-public storage areas.

    All of the EM games I posted about being off are still off and out of order with the same notes from four days earlier.

    Most pins are spaced 4 to 5 feet apart when measured from their center line.

    There are about 75 video and Arcade games. 75% were on and appeared working.

    There are also bubble hockey and bubble soccer games. Also DDR, Guitar Hero, several crane machines, Zoltar, a foot massage machine, Sega domed basketball, Bally World Cup Soccer from the late '60's with a newer Bally stainless steel pinball coin door. I counted the Pitch and Bats as pins.

    I did not count the two Disneyland toy factory machine (set for four bucks a pop) as neither was working. Nor did I count the dozen or so bill changers sitting around. I did count Stern's Transformers "The Pin" that had a coin mech added. Similar to the Bally Captain Fantastic Professional Home Model with added crappy coin mech.

    As for the modern Sterns, Indiana Jones, Elvira HoH, Family Guy and Tron were off.

    Someone else asked about the rarest game. I'd say it's the Rock-Ola Jig Saw.

    Also pictured is a creative back door for a Williams Ball Park pitch & Bat. There were aboot forty cars in the lot when I arrived.
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    #202 2 years ago
    Quoted from vid1900:

    Karen cryin she got bronchitis, bltch you NEED a mask if you got bronchitis!!!!"

    As Sweet Brown would say: Ain't nobody got time for that.....

    #203 2 years ago

    Not sure what has happened but a tradesman was at PHoF today installing locks on the restroom doors. Mechanical key type so not sure if there was some vandalism like what happened at the old location and they are switching to the old gas station key on a stick deal or what. Maybe a pinball leg or old Gottlieb lock down bar can be used instead of a piece of wood.

    Prior to this the doors were auto closing via hydraulic door closers with push plates/pull handles but no locking mechanisms.

    #210 2 years ago

    The cries for professional looking rule signage have been heard.....

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    #215 2 years ago
    Quoted from yancy:

    Hopefully the bathroom door locks are just to keep people out during cleaning/maintenance. Keys-on-sticks would be a nightmare to administer for large multi-stall bathrooms with potentially hundreds of guests. Only solution at that scale is a restroom attendant.

    Plus the restrooms are at the back of the building and the attendant counter is near the front doors...

    #244 2 years ago

    I gotta say, it was so refreshing at Red Rock Casino Resort yesterday not wearing a mask. Most guests were wearing one, but I chose not to as they are no longer required. A few employees were maskless as well.
    All of the "chain" casinos are now allowed to go maskless (MGM, Caesars, Station, Boyd etc.) in Nevada.
    Employees have to show proof of being fully vaccinated to go maskless.
    I myself am fully done but was not asked to show my card.

    #254 2 years ago
    Quoted from jj44114:

    Looking for trouble?

    This is to update the PHoF official website.

    Just go to the games page on the website (http://www.pinballmuseum.org/games/games.php). Look at any of the photos. They are all from the new location as requested by a Board member of the LVPCC.

    #260 2 years ago
    Quoted from Steve_in_Escalon:

    Pinball Circus has been there since the first day. Unless they moved it, it’s halfway down the center isle, between the rows.

    I agree as I saw Pinball Circus in the spot you mentioned when I posted for Too-Many-Pins on May 2nd. It was also there when I visited a week prior to that.

    It has not been out on the floor since at least May 13th and was not out when I left tonight near closing time.

    #261 2 years ago

    Was also able to get a couple of pictures of Porange hiding behind the pile of change machines and assorted games.

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    #263 2 years ago

    Sorry, volunteering for one pinball museum (ran by a real nice guy) is quite enough. My time is worth more than what Tim can offer. Las Vegas is an expensive place to live.....

    #265 2 years ago
    Quoted from Blenderhead:

    I’m the guy who sold to Tim the Medieval Madness at the PHoF. I live in So. Cal, and a guy drove out from Vegas to buy it. I asked if it was going to Tim/PHoF, and was told “yes”. Still has the custom cards Inputnin last I checked. I believe this counts as a “donation”.

    Assuming you did this in 2020 and yesterday was the income tax filing deadline, you can always amend your return to claim a deduction for your donation.

    #276 2 years ago
    Quoted from robotronjohn:

    It was there and operational on the 12th. I didn't make it back because I developed a sore throat.

    Yep, as mentioned, it was not there on the 13th nor the 17th. I'm up in Reno for a few days now so I can't verify if it is available for play.

    #278 2 years ago

    Reporters on the ground have confirmed Pinball Circus is back on the floor at PHoF and is in good working condition. Today, May 20, 2021....

    #283 2 years ago
    Quoted from tfduda:

    Thanks for the photos! I don’t remember the bingo machine from the old location, but enjoyed the sticker on it that I could barely make out but think I read that it says that credits earned will not be paid out and that, “This is not a casino!” Hah!

    That Miss America Supreme bingo was in the old location. You are correct on what the placard mentions. Interestingly, that was a Nevada location machine as it has the Bally Distributing add-on hopper that provided direct cash payouts. Obviously it is disconnected for obvious reasons.....

    #291 2 years ago
    Quoted from Reality_Studio:

    I'm curious, do pictures (front and back) of the vaccine card count? I've been fully covid vaxxed for a while now but I'm worried about losing the darned card, so I took pics of it to have it on my phone. Same with my vaccine passport, I keep pics of it on my phone but don't carry it around so as not to risk losing it. Just not sure if locations would accept that.

    Showing a photo on your phone or the original card is protected by HIPAA rules. It does not need to be shown to a non-medical organization employee. Nevada casinos/casino employees cannot even ask a guest to produce the card. Even though they have signs posted stating fully vaccinated guests are not required to wear a mask, they cannot ask for proof.

    The casinos have rights if a guest is not vaccinated, but falsely represents they are and are proven to cause any harm.

    #293 2 years ago
    Quoted from prl867:

    Although I do not doubt the voracity of your post, I can say with full certainty that the request to view the vaccine card is the option of the proprietor, and being an At-Will State, and please correct me if I’m wrong, the proprietor can eject visitors to establishment for any reason, and that reason does not need to be stated to the ejected parties, correct?
    Similarly, at a casino (which admittedly is a bad example), the management are legally able to ask a guest to leave even if they are not causing a disturbance simply because of the manner of which they play blackjack.
    To summarize (and I could easily be wrong as in the interest of full disclosure, I’m not that bright), if a patron is asked for vaccine card they are under no legal obligation to show it; HOWEVER, the establishments proprietor is also under no obligation to let that patron in their facility.

    All true statements. Especially in the case of a private club.

    #301 2 years ago
    Quoted from grantopia:

    This is has been debunked about a billion times, it is in no way a HIPAA violation to ask, and they absolutely can ask.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/5165952001

    We can agree to disagree. Anyone can ask if you are vaccinated or not. They cannot demand you show your card.
    Nevada casino Legal Departments have informed employees that the casino can be subject to action if an employee, while representing the business asks to see the vac card. They specifically cite HIPAA.
    I'll trust someone with a JD over a newspaper article.
    I may have missed it, but I did not see any mention of asking to show a vac card in that article.

    Tim has good Legal counsel anyway so Let's let it go. Next PHoF visit I make, I'll show my card if asked. No use being shown the door and not be allowed to play the Bally Galahad there.

    #311 2 years ago

    When I was there yesterday, I noticed the white border lighting was illuminated. I had to leave around 6pm, so it was barely noticeable in this picture.

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    #325 2 years ago
    Quoted from emguy:

    Also, the coin slide on this machine takes 16 quarters at once!

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    #329 2 years ago
    Quoted from emguy:

    I thought this was funny - description of what you get is pretty much spot on. Also, the coin slide on this machine takes 16 quarters at once!
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    And remember kids, you can color them yourselves using all that paint you bought for touching up pinball playfields & backglasses!

    #334 2 years ago
    Quoted from emguy:

    This game looked spectacular. Turns out it was a Rick’s Restorations project with the PHoF. Gameplay is actually pretty fun! (for about 5 minutes, then that’s about enough for today)
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    Those were so cool to play at Cedar Point when they had them. I think all were pulled when Alpha-Bet (Frank Seninsky's company) got the operating & service contract 15 or so years ago.

    #349 2 years ago
    Quoted from emguy:

    At the risk of being labeled a little odd by the pinball community (ha! - wouldn't that be ironic?), I'll admit I don't know why I like this game as much as I do. I used to own a really nice example of it, and it's one of the few I regret selling. I appreciate that the PHoF keeps this one in great shape - all the pool balls light up, flippers work, scores correctly, etc. It's like a mystery to figure out where to shoot to un-light that last pool ball, and then guess where the pinball is going to appear from when it comes out down by the flippers.
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    Very popular game at Bars and Truck Stops when they were new. Most paid for themselves in a few months. Greta Game....

    #352 2 years ago
    Quoted from emguy:

    For the list of games at the PHoF, would this be classified as an Apollo, or a Lunar Shot?
    [quoted image]

    Yes.

    #360 2 years ago
    Quoted from prl867:

    If they were only open more than like 3x a year, I’d spend a boatload of time there.

    Why bother with the drive to the Morongo Valley if you live here, near the new, expanded PHoF?

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    #378 2 years ago
    Quoted from zaki:

    Just went to Vegas. Food prices all time high. Example: large pizza in food court at Caesars is $44, ands that's fast food!

    Thanks for visiting.

    Everything is higher priced here. Even White Castle sliders are $1.29 without cheese. And that's at the Paradise & Koval location off the strip. It has a drive-thru.
    A good local pizza chain, Angelina's, offers a large pepperoni pizza for $19.00. A real, had-tossed 18" pie, not a machine-made crust, and not a Little Caesar's 14" large.

    #390 2 years ago
    Quoted from Apinplayer:

    Just got back from a long weekend of pinball gambling and seeing the fight at the Virgin hotel on Saturday. If there's one thing that made the weekend great, it was grabbing snacks for the room at the 7-Eleven next to the White Castle. That place needs its own reality show.
    As for a good deal on food you still can't beat the $6.99 steak n eggs at Ellis Island casino. Go sign up for the players club get 2 free beers $5 bucks in slot play.

    Waiting in the Blanc Chateau drive thru line (Paradise Road location) is a trip in itself with the pot dispensay next to Liquor world. People smoking in the parking lot will get you a free high lime most White Castles, it can be a 20-30 minute wait in line so even with windows up, you still smell it.

    #398 2 years ago
    Quoted from flynnibus:

    uh oh... don't need this kind of extra drama!
    https://twitter.com/VitalVegas/status/1410809969361002501
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    It's only a dollar.... I mean it's only eight feet.

    #401 2 years ago

    Better pic of the problem area from earlier today...

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    #418 2 years ago
    Quoted from Steve_in_Escalon:

    Errors in building ‘off property’ are extremely rare. I’ll believe the story when it comes from Tim.

    Someone who videoed Tim's talk last night should post it (maybe on youtube?). Tim eluded to a "problem with the new building" but said "we won't talk about it right now".

    #426 2 years ago
    Quoted from bob_e:

    This happened on the Jetsons..episode 22 "private Property"
    When Cogswell opens a new office next door to spy on Spacely Sprockets, George is charged with finding a way to get rid of Cogswell.
    surveyors print shows one of the two buildings is over the property line.

    In that episode, the surveyor or building inspector said the building must come down.

    #430 2 years ago
    Quoted from miracleman:

    Have there always been parking spaces open at the new location?
    Seems like all the pics so far have shown it pretty full.

    Depends on the day and time. Over the past two months it has ranged from 20% to darn near 100% of occupied spaces.

    For the gala this past Thursday, the lot was 80% filled at 3 pm as the building was open to the public until the before everyone was escorted out. Then the lot emptied with the exception of workers and tailgaters. During the event, the lot was maybe 60% occupied. Many guests came via Rideshare/cabs as the Amusement Expo also took place during the week. It seemed that there were about 125 guests for the Grand Opening event at its peak.

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    #443 2 years ago

    I wonder what the five recently deleted posts were aboot?

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    #446 2 years ago

    View of PHoF from McCarran (LAS) Airport.

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    #460 2 years ago
    Quoted from Pinzzz:

    Thank you. I appreciate your response. I am very much looking forward to playing it.

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    #481 2 years ago
    Quoted from prl867:

    Rollergames was a recent donated machine and is in final phase of project repair and conversion to LED. Should be playable on the floor in a few days.

    Before or after Fathom? Asking for another poster here.

    #486 2 years ago
    Quoted from bobmathuse:

    Old location is now a Boktor Motors salesroom.

    And it looks like a car wash will go in on the East side of the old property. Photos taken this morning on an Airport run.

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    #487 2 years ago
    Quoted from bobmathuse:

    Made my first visit to the new location yesterday. Have been to both prior locations many times plus the warehouse fundraisers before he had a location. Have also played in tournaments at all three locations now.
    Much improved location. Better lighting, ventilation, restrooms, drinking fountains, control / sales desk. Machines better spaced, nice high ceiling to give it an open feel, - - less crowded feel to it. More staff on duty to repair games, plus a logbook you can write games problems you encounter in. Better organized than previously.
    Downsides. While there's more and better parking (good), it won't be enough if they get business volume up to their target level (which is more than was there yesterday I was told). No good places nearby for overflow parking. Lot was about full yesterday, but there were still only a small fraction of the games in use. Still has many EMs on 3-ball play, really should be 5 on those games, over too quickly. Strangely still has some newer games on 5 balls that everywhere else are on 3.
    Even with more staff, they can't keep up with the machine breakdowns. Dozens of machines were off as non-working, many were being worked on at all times, 4 had or developed bugs when I played them. The Banning tech team will be there next month, but ... the ongoing challenge of keeping up implies that even if John had gotten the Banning to Palm Springs relocation to work, he'd have needed to hire at least a dozen techs to keep up with it, and I doubt he'd have been able to do that for some time.
    I got asked several times if I worked there. Guess I look too official or younger-version-of-Tim-like.
    Overall grade A-. Much improved, a challenge to improve much further unless he can hire more techs. I hope the tech group visit helps cut down on the repair backlog.
    Old location is now a Boktor Motors salesroom.

    Also, not sure how you can give an A- when about 40% of the games are down. I agree, Tim needs to hire technicians. But he won't hire any. He still wants unpaid volunteers.

    #490 2 years ago
    Quoted from bob_e:

    Catch 22.... How many hours a week does Tim put in repairing his collection?

    It's been reported that he spends a bit more time per week watching cartoons than he spends repairing games.

    Not that there's anything wrong with that.

    #499 2 years ago
    Quoted from bobmathuse:

    Not sure about the 40% figure, but the fact that he does have a couple hundred working games to choose from in a pleasing new facility is why he gets an A-. How many locations have that much selection in a place that nice? If I hit the megabucks and could buy the place out from under him, sure, and I'd hire 20 techs and pay them well (and find a way to add more parking). Tim's fanatical about his charity donation which is a large part of why he prefers volunteers. If having too many games on the floor offline (vs. just keeping the OOO games in storage) lowers his grade with you, fine, we have different weights for different variables here. Even if my 10 favorite games are out, I can still find plenty of others to play. It's much easier to maintain "only" a few dozen to a hundred games well; same with a larger number when you're only open limited times like PAPA and Banning were.

    Pins and Pitch & Bats: 41% down.
    Pins, Pitch & Bats, videos, redemption games, arcade games (basically everything set up) : 35% down.

    Not trying to get in a pissing contest with anyone. Just stating what I, as well as two others in the vfw pinball group have observed recently.

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    #500 2 years ago
    Quoted from prl867:

    I want to preface this post by saying that I sincerely hope my disagreement is not taken as an attack post, as that is not my intention at all. Be that as it may, I must disagree with the previous poster “cfh” on many levels. I will attempt to explain my disagreements section by section with the reasons as to why I disagree.
    First, as I had mentioned in an earlier post, in the interest of full disclosure, I am directly involved at the PHoF as a volunteer. I run the front desk and my daughter is a lead tech. Having said that, I do not speak in an official or unofficial capacity for the PHoF and do not claim to represent them in any way on this forum. I only speak for myself.
    Ok, now that all my personal legal stuff is done, let me say that as someone who has been a regular patron of the PHoF for over a decade and more recently as a volunteer spending upwards of 25-35 hours per week there, I can say with utmost certainty that a majority of what I ascertain to be assumptions of the previous poster are highly and largely inaccurate. An opinion is one thing. Everyone has one. And that is perfectly fine. However, the blurred area of opinion versus fact must be pointed out.
    I have come to know Tim what I would consider to be fairly well. I would not consider him to be my “friend” but I would consider him to be a respected peer, my “boss” of sorts, and the owner/proprietor/Chairman of the Board of the LVPCC, owners of the PHoF. All facts.
    “Control freak” is a general form of name calling, and is certainly subjective and rather pejorative. Being that he is the head honcho, all the workings of the PHoF do indeed fall under his prevue, but he empowers and trusts his team with large degrees of latitude to get their own individual jobs done without micro managing in the slightest. I can provide specific examples of such whereupon Tim behaved and managed in such a way that I would consider “control freak” to be only applicable if we were having a round table and openly discussing terms that in no way describe Tim Arnold. I can think of many adjectives that describe him. Many positive abs negative, but “control freak” is most certainly not one of them.
    Next section is the ludicrous statement that techs must supply their own tools and parts. Stated as if this was factual, I can debunk that easily. My daughter has never in her life purchased a tool of any kind. Yet she has a full toolkit, soldering iron, micrometer, etc that she is free to take home every day. 100% provided free of charge by the PHoF. This also applies to me and all volunteers. I know this because I manage the front desk. And I am NOT Tim.
    Next section I take issue with includes the statement stated as fact that all parts are under “lock and key.” If by lock and key you mean that the building has working locks and is secured nightly at closing, then that’s true, but we all know that’s not what you meant. Parts are not kept under lock and key. Parts are readily available and organized by machine type, in the secured workshop area that any official volunteer of the PHoF can access. The workshop is not customer accessible, as it shouldn’t be. Money is obviously kept secured. Parts and tools are accessible to any tech that needs them.
    I do not take issue with the section on Tim repairing things differently than others. He does have his own way of repairing. I agree with that, and I have no problem with that.
    Finally, the last section, is true in that banning had games set on free play so the 3-4x a year that the place was open to the public, no quarters were needed.
    The PHoF is open every day of the year (except when it was forced to close at the start of Covid) and yes, all machines operate on quarters. Not tokens. Not swipe cards. Quarters.
    Perhaps the previous poster has never routed a machine or seen the inside of a routed machine. In that case, I would understand the incorrect assumption that there would need to be “guards” to watch the cash boxes.”
    Inside a pinball machine that is routed, there is a cash box, made of metal, that is physically locked, with a padlock, securing the coinage and lockbox to the interior of the machine. This is done so a routed machine can still be maintained by a tech without fear of the machine being robbed as the tech does not have access to the lockbox.
    There are often visiting techs from other establishments around the country that have pinball, and all are welcomed to share their expertise and help out the PHoF with their skills. It is always greatly appreciated from what I have noticed.
    But that’s just me.

    Are you aware that the previous poster, "cfh" and Tim are acquaintances/friends and talk often? Granted, Cfh has not been to the new location as he will not fly with Covid still around and he dislikes driving. Based on your post above, it sounds like Tim was sitting under a coconut tree and a nice sized coconut fell and hit him in the head. If what you said is now the case; well done, Tim!

    The majority of videos that the LVPCC / PHoF sells were all produced by cfh. All proceeds from all of them, even way back when they were on VHS tapes, have gone to fund the PHoF. They were produced even before the first location opened on Tropicana near Pecos. Before the PHoF was formed, Tim sold them at the major pinball shows and Pingame Journal sold them via mail order with free ads in the magazine. Tim also sold them via the LVPCC "PO Box" as well.

    You can find videos of Tim & cfh making fun of each other speaking together or in succession at pinball collector shows in different parts of the Country. In fact, here they are sitting next to each other at a Las Vegas In-N-Out Burger....

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    #522 2 years ago
    Quoted from cfh:

    That’s a really nice and thoughtful post and pretty much hits it right on the head

    Where is our Clay and what have you done with him? Unless you too were sitting under a coconut tree, and a giant one fell and hit you on the head as well....

    #523 2 years ago
    Quoted from yancy:

    Are percentages a good measurement when there are hundreds of games up & running?
    Put another way, which is a better arcade to visit:
    20 pins, 100% working
    400 pins, 60% working
    I know which one I'm flying halfway across the country for.

    I think percentages are helpful especially when there have been complaints that "half of the machines are down" when it only 40%. Remember all of the complaints about Expo having "half the machines down"? I would do an accurate count to show that it was only 20 or 30%.

    That said, Since I hardly play pinball these days (I just test play after I've made repairs), so it does not matter. Ironically, I'm flying to Detroit to work the VFW show this weekend, Flying back to LV to attend the G2E show next week and then will fly up to Reno and drive over to Dixon for PAGG show the following weekend.

    I'll take some friends who will be in town for G2E to the PHoF on the non-gaming vendor party night. Hopefully the Bally Galahad will be up and running....

    #536 2 years ago
    Quoted from pins4u:

    Oh - so he DOES care? If he COULD care less it means he actually DOES care!
    I think you might mean "he COULDN'T care less" - expanded means - "he COULD NOT care less".
    Why is this simple English so difficult for many to comprehend?

    We all understood what cfh meant. Everyone's entitled to one grammatical mistake.

    Quoted from ILovePinball:

    I have 1 solution- Set all games to token play!! Poof,problem solved.

    Who will pay for the tokens? Last I knew, Van Brook/Doran does not make them for free. The charge for custom dies is minimal or free when you purchase a large amount of tokens. Tim would need at least a weeks worth, maybe even two weeks so 200,000 tokens. Then you have to adjust half the coin mechs and then replace the other half that are not adjustable. Maybe a few hundred coin entry plates or Dremel/hacksaw them. This will take valuable time away from game repairs. Will Tim want to pay for tokens? the money could go to charity or other expenses so it's a hard sell.

    Of course there are the card readers or cell-phone payment systems. But, now we're talking $200/machine and the cell phone ones get a cut per play so no-go on these routes for sure. Cash is King.

    #551 2 years ago
    Quoted from vdojaq:

    As a business owner.....cash is king.....no fees or anything else to worry about. And as any operator will tell you, employees were the biggest thieves when it came to emptying the cash boxes. On the other hand, as an owner, very easy to make a cash box contents to easily disappear without a paper trail.

    When I worked for an Operator, I recall on one of my first service calls on the road, something wasn't right; quarters galore on the lid of the cashbox and a massive coin jam in one of the chutes. Every single quarter went into that cash box. I found out later that it was indeed a setup to test me.

    Later, a couple of new employees suddenly were let go soon after they started. They did not pass the test.....

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    #553 2 years ago

    From this morning...

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    #557 2 years ago

    Friday view from the air....

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    #574 2 years ago

    The frame for the sign and the North facing animated arrow are in place. It will attract a lot of attention. I can't wait to see it lit when I fly in or out of McCarran Airport.

    The car that seems to photobomb some of my pics shows how large this sign really is. I sure hope it has been wind tested and comes with a guarantee. The winds we get here every few weeks can be brutal....

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    #576 2 years ago

    The South facing arrow has been installed today.

    Fake Porange Kitty has survived the latest winds we had here....

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    #581 2 years ago
    Quoted from xsvtoys:

    Man, that thing looks pretty darn beefy! Looks to me like it would scoff at any wind.

    I agree, but look at what happened to the Las Vegas Hilton (Formerly the International Hotel, now known as the Westgate) sign in 1994....

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    #584 2 years ago

    Porange has moved .....

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    #585 2 years ago

    Progress for the weekend....

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    #589 2 years ago
    Quoted from twoplays25c:

    It warms my heart as a fellow pinhead, to see my old work team at JLG helping make this great sign happen!

    Im not sure what you call the JLG orange bucket/boom thing. The larger cranes I saw earlier were from Manitex.
    Sign vendor is High Impact. Guessing Young/Yesco either no-quoted or bid double of what High Impact is charging.

    The sign colors look awesome in the Las Vegas sunshine.....

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    #591 2 years ago

    Jumbotrons installed on both sides and South face of the sign is now being installed here on Tuesday morning....

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    #597 2 years ago

    From the McCarran Airport runway an hour ago....

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    #615 2 years ago
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    #619 2 years ago

    I think it will look awesome. Maybe almost as good as this one at Bally's main plant & headquarters. I took this pic about 44 years ago.....

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    #632 2 years ago

    A motorhome photo bombing past night. YESCO rep was there on a Recon mission too...

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    #635 2 years ago
    Quoted from prl867:

    I find this to be quite interesting. I had heard that Yesco bid on the sign job bu r their price was obscenely higher than what High Impact Signs bid was. Hence, obviously, HIS got the job.
    And a quite amazing job it is!

    Yep, dude from Young/Yesco was in an orange/white pickup blocking the entrance drive taking pictures from his truck while I stopped by with my son taking him to the Airport.

    #637 2 years ago
    Quoted from prl867:

    Btw, that PHoF sign by High Impact Signs cost a whopping $530,000. Its not a secret or anything. Just random trivia I thought ya’ll might find interesting/fascinating.

    Yes, I was aware of the cost of the sign.

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    #647 2 years ago

    Sign update as I was nearby this evening. Still not powered up....

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    #652 2 years ago
    Quoted from miracleman:

    Porange on the 'B'?

    Yeppers....

    #665 2 years ago
    Quoted from pinwiztom:

    Would be better if wedged into the inside of a "B" or the crevasse of the "N", as it will likely get blown off its perch during the next big wind storm.

    Don't worry, he's on a tight leash....

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    #666 2 years ago

    The sign is still not powered up, but the real Porange (not the stuffed one on the letter B on the South face shown) is a happy kitty lounging under the Bally Bazaar inside the PHoF....

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    #667 2 years ago

    We've had what the teevee news described as "horrible Winter weather" today in Las Vegas. LOL, it was 58° today but very high winds and gusts. Oh, we also received 0.17" of rain.

    Porange was comfy on the Bally Sky Divers machine today. However, his mockup on the new sign has been dislodged with him hanging on.

    The new sign itself looks intact so it passed today's wind test. There was a 61 mph wind gust next door at McCarran Airport next door. That's McCarran, now Harry Reid Airport.

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    #674 2 years ago

    Looks good! South facing B illumination is currently out. Maybe Porange peed on it and corroded a connector? North face has a couple of LED's on the outer edge of the arrow out.

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    #675 2 years ago

    Videos showing animation...

    North Face of sign:

    South Face of sign:

    #683 2 years ago
    Quoted from RCA1:

    I love the multiple personal injury lawyer billboards in the background.

    You would not believe the number of them on I-15 and I-515. Also on local teevee. Makes the amount in the Detroit and Chicagoland areas look like Amateur Hour....

    #687 2 years ago

    More Lawyer, Less fee, I promise and I'll put it in writing.....

    #688 2 years ago
    Quoted from RCA1:

    I love the multiple personal injury lawyer billboards in the background.

    Was hoping for a PinkCherry billboard. The PHoF billboard has been a LoveStore billboard several times. Five Las Vegas locations...

    #691 2 years ago

    I made two trips to the airport yesterday for Christmas travelers. 18 personal injury (plus one for DUI's in CA) billboards per trip.
    At least the Sam & Ash billboards are easy on the eyes.....

    #697 2 years ago

    After 8pm (10 pm in the Summer) that Motel 6 usually has two Police vehicles with the bubble gum machine on an sometimes 1-3 Ambulances with flashing lights on. I'd go for a safer place. But, that costs more...

    #698 2 years ago
    Quoted from johninc:

    I was lucky, my one airport trip was at JSX, so I didn't have to go near LAS terminals.

    It is so nice to pick up and drop off visitors at LAS and never have to deal with the bullshit anymore. I've made a couple of Reno flights and one to Hawaii since moving here but that’s it. I have made over a hundred trips there as part of MrBally's Livery Service....

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    #769 2 years ago
    Quoted from yancy:

    One thing's for certain, that new facility will outlive Tim, so eventually you'll all get to see how someone else runs the place.
    Sorry for the morbid thought, it's freakin' -2° at 9 AM here, feels like death. Wish I was in Vegas.

    While the building will outlive all of us older pinheads, I'm not so sure that the PHoF will. I heard from a friend, who knows a guy, who heard that if Tim can no longer run the PHoF, operation of it may not go on much longer. Hopefully that's not the case and LVPCC will continue operating the place.

    On the weather front, that's why I moved here from the Detroit area. So done with bitter cold, wind chill temperatures and gray skies all Winter.

    I'm having my morning coffee on the patio now. 60° with sun shining bright. Not the 80° Florida weather, but no humidity or mosquitoes in the hot Summer here. No Summer weekend days rained out either. We love it here.

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    #778 2 years ago

    The sign has been repaired. The Blue B on the South face along with the two individual lights in the Red area on the Arrow (North face). Porange has been re-secured as well.

    A part of the LED strip on one of the "L's" on the building is operating at half brightness. Like Pinball Machines,
    something always seems to break.

    Two of the three kitties were close together and can be seen in a picture. The third one zipped by in the storage yard further back....

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    #783 2 years ago

    New message on the Jumbotron.....

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    One more photo....

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    #805 2 years ago

    William Sessions made it to 2020.....

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    #861 2 years ago

    All three kitties were lounging around tonight....

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    #872 2 years ago
    Quoted from pinwiztom:

    To honor the occasion
    Tim is letting everyone in for free!

    He even let Clay in yesterday!

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    #876 1 year ago
    Quoted from bob_e:

    Is Clay on a pinball repair tour?

    We're you at the VFW this past Friday evening?

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    #934 1 year ago
    Quoted from blacklightprod:

    the neon sign that is something to die for!

    Just wanted to say it's an LED sign that looks like Neon.
    While beautiful, it will be partially blocked when viewed from Northbound Las Vegas Boulevard by the Dream Hotel-Casino now under construction.

    Not sure it's to die for, but High Impact Signs designed, built and installed it for aboot $530,000.00

    Tim paid cash for it, so he's gotta be doing something right.

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    #941 1 year ago
    Quoted from PtownPin:

    Did I read that right 5XL? Holy toledo...and selling T shirts is a no brainer

    Despite what we've read here on pinside, Not all pinball players are Professional athletes.....

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    #966 1 year ago

    I saw the article in the E-edition Sunday when flying back from overseas. But there's nothing like seeing it in the print edition....

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    #1002 1 year ago
    Quoted from too-many-pins:

    Well I guess one or two less machines got worked on today while Tim was replying to some of the negativity here on Pinside. If you have never owned a business, worked with your hands, or had to deal with the public on a daily bases it is easy to say what someone else is doing wrong. But those of us that have run businesses fully understand some of the challenges operation something like an arcade can have.
    But I doubt any of us can fully understand the challenges Tim faces on a daily bases. Please try to remember PHoF is Tim's baby and Tim is doing the best he can to help his baby grow. In a "perfect world" things might be different but we don't live in a perfect world.
    Tim - if you happen to see this post keep up the great work & remember there will always be a few clueless people with something negative to say. I'll never forget setting up at a show years ago and someone asked me the price of something and I told them they could have it for free. Next thing out of their mouth was "can you do any better"? Not everyone in this world is playing with a full deck so all we can do is our best and to be thankful each day we are able to do that.

    Liked the: you can have it for free and them asking for a lower price bit.

    #1006 1 year ago
    Quoted from timarnold:

    PORANGE - Off topic for a second before I go, our longtime store mascot, POOR ORANGE has been retired . He has been moving slow, the other cats have been mean to him, so Sophie and her dad have taken him into their home where he will sit in the sun and stare off into space.

    Can a stuffed Avis be added to the sign?

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    #1048 1 year ago

    All part of this....

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    #1111 1 year ago

    Anyone check out Stern's booth at CES? I've been too busy to attend this year.

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    #1130 1 year ago

    Clay playing the first game on the the 1st Foo Fighters set up this morning.....

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    #1134 1 year ago
    Quoted from prl867:

    Also, the classic Nintendo Duck Hunt with original NES zapper is fully functional for $.25 per play!
    [quoted image]

    Ha! I remember uncrating and setting up those Nintendo VS. Games in 1981 or '82. Our machine movers loved them....

    #1135 1 year ago
    Quoted from nsduprr:

    Whoa!!!
    You mean he actually plays pinball too???
    I thought he was just the World's best repair guy (and premier club operator)!

    Yeppers! And even this guy played it right after Clay. He can't really play or repair pinball and slot machines.

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    #1144 1 year ago
    Quoted from girloveswaffles:

    The VS. System came out in 1984.

    I must be thinking of the top & bottom monitor platform (Punch-Out was the factory installed game. We are talking forty years ago so I may be off on my years.....

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    #1240 10 months ago
    Quoted from bob_e:

    How about the hybrids? Baby Packman, Grannies and Gators
    Still pinball yet part video Those are from the Dark Side.

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    #1242 10 months ago
    Quoted from snyper2099:

    Well that’s a good positive attitude! Way to be understanding instead of a grumpy old jerk. No one around here is calling any EM rifle games junk on a site that is centered around pinball.

    We don't call cfh "Mr. Happy" for nothing....

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    #1283 7 months ago
    Quoted from ForceFlow:

    Spotted a photo on facebook showing construction underway next door[quoted image]

    Nothing touched since March 24th, 2023.....

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    #1293 6 months ago
    Quoted from prl867:

    I’m volunteering today. We opened a bit early, like 940, as we had a few guests at the doors.
    Some have asked me about Pinball Circus. Unfortunately, at this time Pinball Circus is down. I will post here as soon as it comes back to life. It is definitely repairable, but it is a VERY time intensive process to repair (no existing schematics either).
    Rest assured though, I will post as soon as it’s back. Thanks!

    11:00 am PDT today view from the air.

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    #1303 3 months ago
    Quoted from prl867:

    A new addition to the collection: A HUO Stern Sopranos will be added to the floor shortly. I never thought I’d see the day…

    Direct from Southern California!

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    #1313 72 days ago
    Quoted from pinwiztom:

    What is it like at PHOF this weekend?

    Yesterday, packed. Plus some cheapskates tried parking in the lot to avoid Mandalay Bay's $70.00 parking fee for the NFL Football Experience.

    Today as of now, PHoF is empty.

    #1314 72 days ago
    Quoted from pinwiztom:

    Does PHOF have a big screen TV?

    Yes. But not for broadcast teevee. Only for the scrolling list of donors and the Surveillance system monitoring.

    #1316 72 days ago
    Quoted from bob_e:

    Tim needs to put QR code labels on his games the customers can send in a problem report so the games can get fixed. And put the list up on the screen so his staff knows what to fix. The system work for Clay at VFW.

    That's a greta idea...

    #1319 69 days ago
    Quoted from CubeSnake:

    A Jumbotron would be more appropriate.....

    There are four additional teevees for the Stern Insider Connected system. Also, there's a scrolling information screen at the front desk.

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