uh oh... don't need this kind of extra drama!

https://twitter.com/VitalVegas/status/1410809969361002501

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hehe.. thx I couldn't think of a diplomatic way to respond to his response As if Clay is some rando wrt to Tim and his history and personality.

I have a hard time believing anyone would try to argue against the points raised. Is it "control freak" or "stubborn" whatever... The man has made up his mind on certain things and that's how he rolls. Somethings you agree with, others you doubt... but he's not one to flounder. He pounds forward. The stories of delegation appear to be getting better as they've grown, but some of the 'extremes' still sound the same.

I lol'd at the explaining a coin box bit....

Like many of these projects - don't get the hook too far in your mouth.

MoP, PHOF, Replay... they are all non-profits, but their primary purpose isn't the charity - It's to have a vehicle that sustains the idea of operating that collection and one that can do it under the fiscal benefits of a non-profit. Tim's commitment to basically giving away decades of his life to see his vision to fruition is admirable... but if he just wanted to raise money he could have done it a hell of a lot easier ways. Instead it's been an effort that has continued to re-invest in itself and used its revenues to continue to enhance and grow the PHOF. He's taken a project from his hit shed of memories to a multi-million dollar enterprise. It's an amazing story of dedication and perseverance. But, he's certainly spent a lot more of their profits on re-investment then he has given to the charities.

I don't question Tim's dedication one bit - the man has been at this longer than 95% of people around here - but please lets not pretend the coins in the slots are for the charities first. PHOF is an arcade first, and excess goes to the charities... excesses made possible by incredible generosity of people like Tim and those that support the vision. But the LVPCC is gaining a hell of a lot through all this too... even if they aren't taking cash distributions or salaries.

No - a lot come from simply how Tim believes it's the best way to run an arcade. The days of his talks on "Do only one thing..." or "gotta own the building" do not come from his charitable focus, they come from his business savvy of how to run a successful arcade. The epic levels of cheap Tim preaches come from how he does everything - not because it's how to maximize the charitable contributions. It's his formula for success in everything. The more money the arcade makes, the more he can give back. They didn't NOT sell merch/food/etc before because it wouldn't help the charity - its because it didn't fit into how Tim felt the place should be ran.

Well see... this guy in southern california... yeah, he just proved how you can raise a million plus in a weekend.
Or, Tim could have been routing his games and just donating everything to charity all this time too -- instead of creating his own operation.

Let's not forget the old wink-wink of it's a 'museum' -- It's an arcade.. at least now they call it that. Guess they aren't too worried about the org scrutiny anymore.

Given the revenue they are bringing in now doing absolutely nothing but the coin drop i find it hard to believe it won’t work for others beyond tim (as long as the collector club keeps the games they have access too).

For all the squeezing blood from the stone… Tim has done it. He’s crossed the entity into the promised land of owning… on the strip… with legit frontage… and they have the revenue to pay for it all. No sweatheart deals on a limited timeline… no ghetto structure. He’s got the Ferrari building now.

They don’t seem to be surviving only on tim’s frugality anymore

It's been Tim's calling card for the business since day 1... open every day, free admission, cheap entertainment for all ages.

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they buy stern's old booth??

So curious how this deal is working out... Tim doesn't buy anything rich... Stern is cheap. Parking this here until CES maybe?

We already know this is the same booth style we’ve seen at shows. You don’t build multiple of ghese unless you need simultaneous use. So it’s either sterns ‘last model’ they no longer need, or its in vegas before CES.

What isn’t simple reuse is the pinball machines. So there is some other bargaining going on here.

Companies reuse their booth all the time… especially smaller companies with limited budgets. Your vendor is paid to break down the kit and usually store it until the next use.. then set it up and do any repairs needed. This is the way…

But for stern to set it up in a venue like this suggests this is the outgoing set. It will take too much abuse being out in the public for a month. That’s why I figured it was stern’s stuff headed for the dumpster (which fits Tim’s M.O.).

We've already seen this exact booth set at shows in the past. Stern has been using this booth since at least CES 2017. That's why as soon as the UFO was seen, we knew what it was.

At 5 years old.. it totally fits the potential that Stern was ready to buy a new booth and simply was ready to chuck out this booth setup. Let it ride out it's days at the PHOF, put some demo machines over there... let Tim keep the coin. But keeping that many games for a period of time is non-trivial.. so still curious if this will be something (the cluster of Sterns) is something that will persist with PHOF getting to host more modern Sterns.. or if it's just a temporary thing and then PHOF has old show booths until they fall apart

well anyway... still better marketing than Stern giving Josh a free pinball for his tournaments.

Fitting for a thread complaining about working games… considering that is rob berk’s collection