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The Vegas PHoF Opens 4/14/21 In New Location

By prl867

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    #345 2 years ago

    Well dang skippy I can’t wait to be there and drop quarters. I have a feeling it might be March madness next year, but that is two great things to look forward to.

    #356 2 years ago

    We so need a place like this here in Los Angeles Orange County. I am compelled.

    #357 2 years ago

    I really feel like it could be done. It needs to be done. I want that giant sign on a building near me. So envious. I’ll be quiet now.

    #362 2 years ago
    Quoted from sunnRAT:

    Have you been to a town called Banning just down the I-10?

    Of course. Thirty minute drive from me without traffic. But I want another place. We could use one close to Disneyland, and open daily. We could have a banning pinball museum section. I would hope.

    Going to take some money and effort boys and girls.
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    #388 2 years ago
    Quoted from MrBally:

    Thanks for visiting.
    Everything is higher priced here.

    Side note, it is great that marijiuna is legal in Vegas now but the quote above rings true. If you are able to bring your own safely like I do, you might save a few bucks…

    #389 2 years ago

    Also, is anyone else getting all motivated by the new pictures in the new place? I can’t wait to go.

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    #448 2 years ago

    I don’t have any questions but thanks for the introduction. I bet someone else has good questions.

    Again, welcome!

    Quoted from prl867:

    In the interest of full disclosure, I am now a part time volunteer at the PHoF, mainly running the front desk. As I had previously mentioned that my only direct connection was via my daughter being a tech, I wanted to mention this for honesty purposes.
    Having said that, none of my comments or opinions are to be construed or taken as representative of the PHoF views, whether that be in an official or unofficial capacity.
    I do not represent the PHoF in any way on this forum, but I’m happy to answer any questions that anyone may have. Thank you!

    #452 2 years ago

    Fullerton used to have an excellent book store called Aladdin books. That I used to frequent. There is a half price books still so there’s that.

    I have been coming to Fullerton since 1990 when I moved to ca from Detroit. And enjoying it. Now it is my hometown.

    It has gone through some changes in downtown. Almost everything is food. And bars.

    When I researched it last year I think there were nearly three hundred open bars in Fullerton. This prompted laws of no street parking in Fullerton at night. A law I personally like.

    It seems like a great area for a real arcade. Especially since bannings demise. I love this area and plan on dying here.

    Hopefully, that will be awhile.
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    #483 2 years ago

    FYI, the banning technical team has planned a trip to the phof in the near future.

    This is a great idea all the way around as about two to three hundred techs lost one of their joys in life.

    I will certainly be coming but not on the first visiting in oct.

    Again, I love this idea. The teamwork. Pinball forever.

    #546 2 years ago
    Quoted from xsvtoys:

    One million dollars was once earned at a single day pool party at one casino in Las Vegas.

    Apples to oranges. The Vegas pool parties are like first run cinema Vs the drive inn. Both are awesome in their own way. One earns far less money, however.

    I’m just saying…. Not exactly apples to oranges.
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    #690 2 years ago

    We really need a place like this right near me in oc ca. This is my dream.

    #694 2 years ago

    That motel is the ticket for certain pinball trips!

    #706 2 years ago
    Quoted from girloveswaffles:

    I've stayed at that Motel 6 on Tropicana before. Surprisingly, for bring across the street from the runways at McCarran, I never heard any noise from the airport.

    Sometimes the noise is a bit of the charm…

    #712 2 years ago

    It would be nice to see this on location around my area. That would certainly happen if they remade it.

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    #742 2 years ago
    Quoted from prl867:I’m going to attempt to once again, clear up some “concerns” people have.
    First, the preface:
    I volunteer at the PHoF about 25 hours a week. My daughter is a technician there.
    I am BY NO MEANS speaking on behalf of Tim or the PHoF in an official capacity. The following is my personal opinion and I haven’t cleared anything I’m about to post with anyone prior to posting.
    ++++++=+
    The Pinball Hall of Fame is not the best name for this facility. It has a built in “stigma” that gives people an incorrect assumption of what they will discover upon entry.
    The PHoF official website is pinballmuseum.org. This is also confusing because many people confuse us with the former Banning Museum of Pinball.
    The vast majority of people that post and frequent Pinside probably own (or have owned) at least one pinball machine and know with absolute certainty what a royal pain in the ass they are. Even if you only one one. The PHoF has over 400 coin op machines in the building.
    The PHoF is open every day of the year and has been for several years (only closure being forced due to pandemic). Even when moving from Trop location to current, the place closed one night and opened in he very next morning in new location.
    This concept can be credited 100% to Tim
    Arnold and the Pinball Collector's Club of Las Vegas. Is Tim the friendliest, most approachable, and charismatic guy you’ve ever met? No. Absolutely not. He’s abrupt, loud, sometimes rude, and definitely frugal. He’s also someone I have the utmost respect for, superior admiration for his integrity, and astounding knowledge of pinball and electronics in general. I am thankful every day that my daughter is privileged enough to call him her mentor.
    The PHoF has a metric ton of non-functioning games on the floor. This is true. From Whoa Nellie to Fathom to Jurassic Park Data East to, at present, Addams Family and Indiana Jones TPA. These and many more games have issues. Problems that need to be fixed by a qualified technician. Like Tim. Like my daughter. Like Louis. The PHoF has about 5 technicians on staff I think (including managers). Do the math.
    The goal of any repair on any machine at the PHoF is to keep the games working and operational and able to take Quarters.
    You can play a vast majority of the games in the PHoF. The others can be viewed, free of charge, any time that the PHoF is open. There is no entry fee.
    ALL AGES ARE WELCOME. This is NOT a 21+ facility. No alcohol is served and there are no gambling machines.
    NO SALES TAX is charged on Gift Shop items because the PHoF is a 501(c)3 NonProfit Entity.
    There is Free Parking for all PHoF guests. The PHoF does not sell spaces for stadium events and event parking in general is not permitted at any time.
    There is no smoking (cigarettes or other) of any kind allowed inside.
    No One (children nor adults) is allowed to run in the facility.
    Soda/bottled water/Tea/Etc (non-alcoholic) are sold via a vending machine. Drinks are NEVER permitted to be placed on a machine. Stools and chairs are provided.
    Finally, regarding masks. The state of NV at the time if this writing, still has a mask mandate.
    Everyone above age 3 must wear a mask that covers mouth and nose at all times when inside the facility. Free masks are available at the gift shop/front desk.
    The PHoF is, in my opinion, is a place you’re lucky to experience once in your life. I’m extremely fortunate that I get the pleasure of experiencing it 3-4 days a week.
    Thank you, timarnold.

    Great post! Thanks!

    I fully enjoy hearing your opinions and perspective.

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    #777 2 years ago
    Quoted from LTG:

    Tim was talking about calling it a day at 65. Apparently that isn't in the plans any more.
    If it isn't pieced out and sold off and never again. ( I hope not after all Tim's done ) any future owner(s) will have huge shoes to fill. Tim is running the most successful arcade there has ever been.
    Long live Tim and the PHOF !
    LTG : )

    All this!

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    #798 2 years ago
    Quoted from flynnibus:

    It's been Tim's calling card for the business since day 1... open every day, free admission, cheap entertainment for all ages.

    I can see the draw of the slogan. This IS Vegas. Almost nothing is free anymore.

    But here at the hall of fame…

    Come on in! It is inviting.

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    #822 2 years ago
    Quoted from prl867:I got a couple messages regarding specific games.
    Addams Family is back in play. $0.50 per play.
    Rush just arrived. $1 per play. Pro Model.
    X Files is going to be down for a while.
    Monopoly now has a colour DMD that was donated by a volunteer.
    There are two Revenge from Mars, two Creature from Black Lagoon (one with colour DMD), and two Time Machines on the floor. One of the Revenge and one of the Creatures are for sale.
    Machines people commonly ask about that the PHoF does NOT have in their collection:
    Alien
    Big Lebowski
    Any JJP other than Hobbit and WoZ.
    Lethal Weapon 3
    Congo
    ID4
    Back to the Future
    Robocop
    Pac Man (pinball)
    Beatles
    LED Zepplin
    Tales from the Crypt

    I like the lineup and would only consider adding a Guns N’ Roses. As my j j p addition.

    I’d like to see how it earns there. For coin drop.

    It might also be fun to hear all coin drop, in terms of plays. I’d love to hear the top ten earners.

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    #823 2 years ago

    Once again, I am so envious that you all have a local place like this open every day.

    Someday, here In Los Angeles…

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    #900 1 year ago
    Quoted from timarnold:

    Tim here at the PHOF
    We have been working 7 days a week since we opened tyring to make our attraction better, but have been running into many setbacks along the way.
    First and foremost is COVID. Closed us for 12 weeks, and when we opened, it was at reduced hours with very little traffic. Pandemic related shortages are still hitting us hard. It takes more time and effort to get the things we used to just take for granted would be there when we needed them.
    Several legal problem with the construction of the building have sucked up HUGE amounts of time and money. Last week, I spent 3 whole days in court for a trial, after the other party backed out of a mediated settlement.
    We prioritise the repair of broken machines with the most popular being fixed first. That leaves more than we would like of the older games sitting awaiting repair. Keep in mind that there is NO talent with the skills required that I can pick up a phone and order in. We are for now KEEPING UP with breakdowns, and hope that in the coming weeks we will start to pull machines out of the dead game list and back to operation. The busy summer season will start to taper off Aug. 9th and be back to off-season by early Sept.
    The public has become VERY combative and difficult. People are angry, disruptive, and rude. Children are out of control on a routine basis. Parents no longer disiplin and the incredible amounts of sugar and caffine I see youngsters with makes calm behavior impossible. Twice yesterday I had to tell parents not to put their infants on the playfield glass, and both times, they insisted there was no problem with this behavior.
    A lot of these problems could be solved by throwing money at them. Hiring a lot of expensive staff, security guards,and middle management. But this would be passed on to our customers in the form of HIGHER PRICES. Paid parking. A 10 to 20 dollar admission charge, doubling the numbers of coins to play are all on the table. We are one of the few things you can do on the Strip that does not charge for parking or admission. People are always complaining the fees and cuts the casinos have instituted in recent years.
    I would like to ask everyone to appreciate the AMATURE nature of what we are and what we do. No professional business would have ever attempted opening a room full of obsolete, cranky, worn out machines. They would have opened your standard Chuck E.- Gameworks- Dave and Buster joint full of kiddie casino stuff. Sure, we are fucked up most of the time. What yall need to do is EMBRACE the funk and realise what makes it fun it that it NOT new and nice.
    Time to get back out on the floor and work!

    Thank you. I wish we had an arcade like this in oc ca. it’s a dream of mine.

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    #910 1 year ago

    Pinball is hard.

    But the pinball hall of fame in Vegas has been doing it successfully for years.

    The story of the hall of fame is still unfolding. We are probably in the middle of the story already, but the golden days are still to come. In my opinion.

    What I mean is I look forward to seeing it every time I visit Vegas. I have not been to the new location yet, but I know I will.

    When I drive from California I make my first stop the hall of fame.

    Again, Southern California really needs one of these, but it has not been done yet.

    A life goal for me and a testament to Vegas pinball hall of fame.

    Pinball is hard.

    #920 1 year ago
    Quoted from RCA1:

    You should add a pinball arcade.

    I second this recommendation.

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    #1005 1 year ago

    Sorry to hear about orange. May the remaining days be pleasant for him or her.

    Quoted from timarnold:

    Tim here at the PHOF.
    I understand more than anyone the frustration felt over games that are down, but you should keep in mind several factors working aginst us.
    SHEER VOLUME-With e huge amount of traffic we have playing the machines 80 hours a week every week of the year, ANY kind of a quality standard is a very fasst MOVING TARGET that is hard for those who do not work 365 a year to understand. About half the people who offer advise say that we should close one day a week, or for a whole week and do nothing but get caught up. That's not how it works in retail. You have to be open when people want to arrive.
    SURGE- Customer volume can change from peak to bottom by a factor of 3, often in as little as a day or 2 on holiday weeks. This makes it hard to control what gets fixed and in what order. I will admit to using a "dead games bank" system of failure management. WHen it gets busy, you let some EMs sit for a while and concentrate on newer more popular machines.
    SIDESHOWS - While pinball has always been and always will be the BIG TENT in our circus, the side shows earn LOTS of money that we use to subsidise our beloved flipper machines. Selling soft drinks, candy, merch, and most importantly, CRANE MACHINES make it possible forr us to continue to offer a HUGE "value menu" of 25 cent pinball machines. These other offerings do take a considable amount of time. If we did away with the sideshows, you would have to pay 50-75-1.00 to play the older stuff. Be careful, you might get what you wish for.....
    "But I would gladly pay more to play old machine!" BULLSHIT! Americans have always shopped on price, not on quality. The screams of pain would be endless and loud! By letting the punters pull the freight for the players, we can find a middle path that serves both.
    DESIGN - These machines were only built, like everything else in our economy, to be as good as they need to be. "Five to ten, then buy it again!" is the manufactures mantra. To keep older stuff working past this point is a fools errend. It means constant frustration and disapointment, fixing the same problems over and over. Our "mantra" here at the PHOF is "If it was easy, everybody would be doing it!' We are the GODS THAT WALK THE EARTH because we get very close to doing the impossible every day.
    COVID - Continues to hamper our efforts in a thousand ways each and every day. We can't get the things we need from the outside, and on the inside,the tourist economy we depend on for customer base is still below what it used to be.
    LEGAL PROBLEMS - Of which I am limited by our advise of council NOT to discuss, only some of which if generally known, is a NIGHTMARE! I just wrote a $80,000 dollar check to our legal team yesterday to cover the cost of a 3 day trial of a matter only our close advisors even know about. COnstant meetings, zoom calls, angry picket lines on our sidewalk... the headaches are endless and draining. "There are too many broken games!" comes the cry from the pinball community. All I can offer in reply is the sound of TINY TINY VIOLINS.....
    LACK OF CRUCIAL SKILLS - Not to sound like an old man here, but kids (Anyone younger than me) do not have mechanical and logical skills needed to analise and solve complex problems. Gone are the culture of kids taking apart and tinkering with stuff which wires your brain on how to work thru a problem. Now the solution to every broken gizmo is to throw it away and BUY A NEW ONE! Forget about communicating.Speaking in complete sentances with out stammering or describing a problem with simple technical terms is not to be found. I can tell a newbie to go "Put a 45 degree bend about 5 MM up on a #6-32 machine screw." and they look at me like I'm from Mars!
    MOTIVATION - Working outside the usual for-profit world is both a blessing and a curse. Our staff is very motivated to perform, but easily pulled away by the need to provide time and money for their own self interest.
    TIM IS GONNA DO IT HIS WAY - This project would not have come as far as it has without a LOT of compromise, innovation and help FROM THE OUTSIDE. I go out of my every day to consider opinions and ideas from others. Sadly, at the end of the day, SOMEBODY has to make descions on things, and a lot of the time, that person is me. I fuck up a LOT, but please consider the alternitive, ANARCHY. I have seen many failures over the years of business because NOBODY was in charge. LVPCC is still mostly a "Timocrocy", but is moving towards a more active and involved Board of Dirrectors with more advise and ideas from the outside.
    PLANNING - I have almost given up. It just doesn't work anymore. You get a plan and a direction, and a day later, you rip it up and start again. I am NOT giving up on our values or our mission, buit I am having to learn to just take things as they come a lot of the time. These are NOT predictable times.
    PORANGE - Off topic for a second before I go, our longtime store mascot, POOR ORANGE has been retired . He has been moving slow, the other cats have been mean to him, so Sophie and her dad have taken him into their home where he will sit in the sun and stare off into space.
    LUCK - In closing, I would like to point out the PHOF has had a lot of LUCK! Things have gone South in a lot of ways, but a loads of stuff has gone very well, without us doing anything! Every day is an ADVENTURE, every customer is a FOOL!, and who knows what will happen NEXT!

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    #1008 1 year ago

    All is right in the world this morning! Very nice.
    Very happy to hear about the cats new home.

    #1009 1 year ago
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    #1041 1 year ago
    Quoted from adol75:

    Here was my happy existence yesterday next to a true Legend.
    And kudos for putting optos on your 20 feet long outlanes, now that's a true pinball innovation that Deeproot would be jealous of.
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    My favorite game in the hall.

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    #1068 1 year ago
    Quoted from girloveswaffles:

    I now have an Idea of what the Stern Pinball lounge is going to look like at San Diego Comic Con next July.

    Comicon la very soon, though.

    Will this display be there today I wonder?

    I might go tomorrow, myself.

    #1072 1 year ago
    Quoted from girloveswaffles:

    You may be thinking of the Los Angeles Comic Con that's going on This weekend at the L.A. Convention Center.
    SDCC is next July.

    This is today.
    https://comicconla.com/

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    #1126 1 year ago
    Quoted from TomDK:

    I was in the PBHoF 2 weeks ago.
    During a tour of duty in the USA . I spend 3 very nice hours there. I was wondering how many people join pinball in the us

    I wanted to respond here regarding the popularity of pinball here in California.
    I joined into pinball again in Southern California about 11 years ago. I began going to the hall of fame at that time. Btw.

    There was one bowling alley that had three new sterns and that was it near me. Except in homes.

    Now today, just look at this map. Beautiful.
    It is still a niche hobby but it is a beautiful time to be playing. One great location has 64 games and another 18 pin location very close to me.

    My personal favorite game at the hall of fame is that circus pinball.
    Cheers!
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    #1127 1 year ago

    The events here are great. For several years. Good community too. Golden years.

    #1128 1 year ago

    Lastly I have visited the hall of fame in Vegas as a landing pad over the last decade. I hope to spend some time there third week of may.

    6 months later
    #1279 7 months ago
    Quoted from metallik:Video games helped pinball, by forcing it to evolve and become better and more interesting to play. I think pinball improved much more between '84 and '90 than it did between '78 and '84. Video games put an end to low-effort pins like Starlight and The Games. Feel free to embrace your hate, but I'll always enjoy both pins and vids

    I’m right there with you. 3 pins one vid is my perfect ratio.

    Pins and vids together is the way I like to roll.

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