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The Vegas PHoF Opens 4/14/21 In New Location

By prl867

3 years ago


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    #193 2 years ago

    I want Tim to start one more go fund me, or better yet, a Patreon account to PAY - yes I said it - PAY one experienced tech. Just one. So that when I travel all the way to Vegas, through the grime and filth of the strip, to "Tim the asshole's" giant warehouse to play some of the greatest games ever made, the machines are at least tuned up to "bad arcade" status and not "broken piece of shit" status.

    I don't care if he calls me a loser when I walk in the door and/or if an old lady yells at me for something I didn't do. I just want to play a working Bride of Pinbot and show my wife how cool that game and the others I grew up on are. Is this too much to ask? I'll pay for it. Cash if he wants it.

    #199 2 years ago
    Quoted from timarnold:

    The thinking on the signs changed when the property to the South was sold to a LARGE casino project. The original design was less bold and changed color like a jukebox. We figured that when the new Hotel is built, there will be very limited visibility when driving up the Strip, so we needed a simple sign that would be easy to see and hard to miss while costing less on the BUILDING, while the sign out on the road grew in size and price.
    I spend a lot of time driving around Vegas on service calls and errands, and I see a lot of BAD signs. Fancy flowing script, strange proportions, too many words. Our only goal on the new design was to leave no doubt what was inside the building as you grasped a quick glance driving up the Strip. The Faux neon tubing was installed this week and will be illuminated at night as soon as the electrical contractor finishes a rework on a breaker panel.
    As far as our charitable contributions, yes, we have cut back to almost nothing to get a world class facility we and the pinball community can be proud of. Many people claim to be CAPITALISTS, but are scared to death of CAPITAL. We took a DEEP plunge and went for it, knowing a simple fact. That the end of this project, ALL and more of the money we spent on this magnificent building will be returned 100 percent or more to our charitable partners. Very seldom does real estate go DOWN in price. It would be even less likely to drop on the Strip, where there are only 35 owners of property all the way from Sahara to the Famous Sign. More than half is owner by one of 2 major casino companies. I am amazed daily by the fact that this little bumble-fuck backwards armature pinball club somehow landed on some of the most productive real estate on the face of the Earth.
    As far as the estimations of what this whole project was going to cost, it was very close to what we figured at the beginning. The Land was paid for first, the out-the-door price was 4,567,500. We signed a CONTRACT with a builder for a set-price of 4,100,000. There was NO clauses for price increases. There were several CHANGE ORDERS. These were mostly involving Public Works, a pesky drainage issue, and fixture changes. The contract did not include professional fees, taxes, permits, and quality control-testing. Take it all home, park it in the garage for a nice round 10 million. The final number will be very close to this amount.
    Where the problem arose with Covid was on the income side. We were CLOSED for 12 weeks. NO income at all. Then there was a slow and still happening ramp up to today where things are approaching what we were doing at the old spot on Trop. We DID come very close to running out of CASH ON HAND to pay bills. This happened a LOT during Covid to many businesses. I could have solved the whole problem by reaching into my pocket for MORE of my own money, but it was pointed out by other members of our board and outside advisors that it shouldn't ONLY being about Tim making things happen. There were and are still many in the pinhead community that wanted to help. And they did. And I thanks them again
    Yes, this DOES represent us selling a bit of our credibility, karma, customer goodwill, or what ever you want to call it. But please keep in mind that all contributions were 100 percent VOLUNTARY. Those who could not afford or didn't like this project were free to NOT help.
    Traffic has been very good considering the impact of the Pandemic, which is just now starting to lift. Going forward, we are looking for better results as the whole entertainment sector improves, lifting all boats. The backlog of broken games is shrinking daily, as less time is being spent on construction related matters.
    All remaining Covid-restrictions will be lifted June 1st EXCEPT wearing a mask, which we will continue to enforce until the Gov says to stop.
    Tony is busy building a custom topped for the next Stern game, Baby Yoda fighting a Baby Shark in a miniature shark tank.

    I find the sign awesome. It is smple, insanely huge, and effective.

    I'm shocked that some in here are criticizing you for asking for donations for a charity that struggled through covid. Your positive karma is far bigger than your kick-ass sign.

    Thanks for clearing up that you are addressing broken games. That is the only consistent complaint I hear that really matters. After all, it's all about pinball.

    Once this shit ends, I'll definitely check out the place. Nothing like pinball for 8 hours straight!

    #224 2 years ago
    Quoted from ForceFlow:

    But I agree, there is room for improvement. Creating good signage is an art.

    Agreed, but the grammar wiz needs to study tone for his next venture.

    7 months later
    #734 2 years ago

    The high number of broken games has always been a major issue at tphof. I love the place and the charity etc, but I always go in knowing most of the classics are most likely going to be turned off or have major issues. Only a few will play well. The ems are great though!

    #764 2 years ago

    I don't get how polite criticism gets lumped in with not appreciating Tim it his charity.

    For my first visit, my wife flew us to Vegas to the phof for my bday years ago, and while it was still good fun, the state of almost every popular classic was abysmal. That is simply just the truth, and it was a huge disappointment.

    I have worked on pins for years. Logic chip replacement and board work etc. It's not insanely difficult. If the charity is making so much money, hire techs so the games play well. This will make MORE money! Why have so many non/barely functioning games in a nice new venue?

    Just my two cents.

    Disclaimer: I like Tim's dedication and collection just as much as all of you!

    #767 2 years ago
    Quoted from too-many-pins:

    When I was out in Vegas for a few days Tim actually asked me if I wanted to hang around for a month or two & work on machines for him. He even offered me a free place to stay. I think a lot of what happens with Tim just really depends on his mood on any given day. But after dealing with the general public for most of my lifetime I can fully understand why Tim can be the way he is some days.
    Bottom line is you are not going to teach an old dog new tricks - or in this case change the way an old operator runs his house. So in my eyes it is pointless talking about it over and over again.
    Be thankful for what PHoF offers or if you don't like it than just to go their. But being realistic it is way too late to think Tim is going to change the way he runs his house.

    I totally agree. It is very likely that things will stay the same, which is a bit of a bummer to me. When we're considering where to travel, it's never a draw. If the games were better, I'd probably make the pilgrimage once per year and spend $100. But if I'm in Vegas for god-knows-what reason, I'll definitely stop by to play a few sterns and ems. I'm still really happy it's there, especially with the new building. It will bring a lot of attention to pinball.

    2 weeks later
    #791 2 years ago
    Quoted from Joe_Blasi:

    FREE admission?? is an selling point?
    In context FREE PLAY WITH PAID admission may be better for the market.
    All of the casinos have FREE admission

    Most of the world looks at the place and says, "huh? Pinball, like from the 80s? Oh, it's free admission to the hall of fame?.. Maybe we should check it out."

    6 months later
    #944 1 year ago
    Quoted from PtownPin:

    Did I read that right 5XL? Holy toledo...and selling T shirts is a no brainer

    If those sell, it's time to increase food sales at tphf.

    2 weeks later
    #951 1 year ago
    Quoted from PtownPin:

    Trust me I know, all one needs to do is visit one pinball show to know most are not athletes; however they are very talented at crop dusting and not wearing deodarant ..... but 5XL? I couldn't imagine that size T

    One must crop dust when others are forced to stay where they are. This doesn't just apply to pinball.

    8 months later
    #1174 11 months ago

    Sex is in, violence is out. It's usually the other way around, but whatever floats yer boat. Morality and pinball never really got along, to tell the truth...

    1 month later
    #1218 10 months ago
    Quoted from mrm_4:

    Yep skipped it. Been there 9 times. Only thing I’m missing this year is the new “stern experience” which doesn’t interest me. I can go to any other arcade in the world for a Stern experience.
    Went to the new Brewdog roof top restaurant for lunch after hanging out at the pool.

    We’re pumped about this! 45 minutes from us.

    I skip it too. Way too much of a disappointment every single time. Having that coin drop rip-off experience over and over gets old fast. I'd rather have fun doing something else and support operators that are local to me. They keep their machines in good running condition.

    #1224 10 months ago
    Quoted from Miguel351:

    I played it at GSPF, I wasn't that impressed by it. Honestly, I'd rather have that Wacko in the back there.

    1 week later
    #1267 10 months ago
    Quoted from prl867:

    Shockingly, yes. Mainly just to children and pedos, and occasionally some moms.

    WTF?

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