Quoted from too-many-pins:

Well I guess one or two less machines got worked on today while Tim was replying to some of the negativity here on Pinside. If you have never owned a business, worked with your hands, or had to deal with the public on a daily bases it is easy to say what someone else is doing wrong. But those of us that have run businesses fully understand some of the challenges operation something like an arcade can have.
But I doubt any of us can fully understand the challenges Tim faces on a daily bases. Please try to remember PHoF is Tim's baby and Tim is doing the best he can to help his baby grow. In a "perfect world" things might be different but we don't live in a perfect world.
Tim - if you happen to see this post keep up the great work & remember there will always be a few clueless people with something negative to say. I'll never forget setting up at a show years ago and someone asked me the price of something and I told them they could have it for free. Next thing out of their mouth was "can you do any better"? Not everyone in this world is playing with a full deck so all we can do is our best and to be thankful each day we are able to do that.

Quoted from MrBally:

Liked the: you can have it for free and them asking for a lower price bit.

Quoted from timarnold:

Tim here at the PHOF.
I understand more than anyone the frustration felt over games that are down, but you should keep in mind several factors working aginst us.
SHEER VOLUME-With e huge amount of traffic we have playing the machines 80 hours a week every week of the year, ANY kind of a quality standard is a very fasst MOVING TARGET that is hard for those who do not work 365 a year to understand. About half the people who offer advise say that we should close one day a week, or for a whole week and do nothing but get caught up. That's not how it works in retail. You have to be open when people want to arrive.
SURGE- Customer volume can change from peak to bottom by a factor of 3, often in as little as a day or 2 on holiday weeks. This makes it hard to control what gets fixed and in what order. I will admit to using a "dead games bank" system of failure management. WHen it gets busy, you let some EMs sit for a while and concentrate on newer more popular machines.
SIDESHOWS - While pinball has always been and always will be the BIG TENT in our circus, the side shows earn LOTS of money that we use to subsidise our beloved flipper machines. Selling soft drinks, candy, merch, and most importantly, CRANE MACHINES make it possible forr us to continue to offer a HUGE "value menu" of 25 cent pinball machines. These other offerings do take a considable amount of time. If we did away with the sideshows, you would have to pay 50-75-1.00 to play the older stuff. Be careful, you might get what you wish for.....
"But I would gladly pay more to play old machine!" BULLSHIT! Americans have always shopped on price, not on quality. The screams of pain would be endless and loud! By letting the punters pull the freight for the players, we can find a middle path that serves both.
DESIGN - These machines were only built, like everything else in our economy, to be as good as they need to be. "Five to ten, then buy it again!" is the manufactures mantra. To keep older stuff working past this point is a fools errend. It means constant frustration and disapointment, fixing the same problems over and over. Our "mantra" here at the PHOF is "If it was easy, everybody would be doing it!' We are the GODS THAT WALK THE EARTH because we get very close to doing the impossible every day.
COVID - Continues to hamper our efforts in a thousand ways each and every day. We can't get the things we need from the outside, and on the inside,the tourist economy we depend on for customer base is still below what it used to be.
LEGAL PROBLEMS - Of which I am limited by our advise of council NOT to discuss, only some of which if generally known, is a NIGHTMARE! I just wrote a $80,000 dollar check to our legal team yesterday to cover the cost of a 3 day trial of a matter only our close advisors even know about. COnstant meetings, zoom calls, angry picket lines on our sidewalk... the headaches are endless and draining. "There are too many broken games!" comes the cry from the pinball community. All I can offer in reply is the sound of TINY TINY VIOLINS.....
LACK OF CRUCIAL SKILLS - Not to sound like an old man here, but kids (Anyone younger than me) do not have mechanical and logical skills needed to analise and solve complex problems. Gone are the culture of kids taking apart and tinkering with stuff which wires your brain on how to work thru a problem. Now the solution to every broken gizmo is to throw it away and BUY A NEW ONE! Forget about communicating.Speaking in complete sentances with out stammering or describing a problem with simple technical terms is not to be found. I can tell a newbie to go "Put a 45 degree bend about 5 MM up on a #6-32 machine screw." and they look at me like I'm from Mars!
MOTIVATION - Working outside the usual for-profit world is both a blessing and a curse. Our staff is very motivated to perform, but easily pulled away by the need to provide time and money for their own self interest.
TIM IS GONNA DO IT HIS WAY - This project would not have come as far as it has without a LOT of compromise, innovation and help FROM THE OUTSIDE. I go out of my every day to consider opinions and ideas from others. Sadly, at the end of the day, SOMEBODY has to make descions on things, and a lot of the time, that person is me. I fuck up a LOT, but please consider the alternitive, ANARCHY. I have seen many failures over the years of business because NOBODY was in charge. LVPCC is still mostly a "Timocrocy", but is moving towards a more active and involved Board of Dirrectors with more advise and ideas from the outside.
PLANNING - I have almost given up. It just doesn't work anymore. You get a plan and a direction, and a day later, you rip it up and start again. I am NOT giving up on our values or our mission, buit I am having to learn to just take things as they come a lot of the time. These are NOT predictable times.
PORANGE - Off topic for a second before I go, our longtime store mascot, POOR ORANGE has been retired . He has been moving slow, the other cats have been mean to him, so Sophie and her dad have taken him into their home where he will sit in the sun and stare off into space.
LUCK - In closing, I would like to point out the PHOF has had a lot of LUCK! Things have gone South in a lot of ways, but a loads of stuff has gone very well, without us doing anything! Every day is an ADVENTURE, every customer is a FOOL!, and who knows what will happen NEXT!

Quoted from timarnold:

PORANGE - Off topic for a second before I go, our longtime store mascot, POOR ORANGE has been retired . He has been moving slow, the other cats have been mean to him, so Sophie and her dad have taken him into their home where he will sit in the sun and stare off into space.

Quoted from pinwiztom:

What is the PHoF's opinion of the game,
as most all I have heard or read was not too good
Also how will it hold up mechanically or electronically.

Quoted from pinwiztom:

What is the PHoF's opinion of the game,
as most all I have heard or read was not too good
Also how will it hold up mechanically or electronically.

Quoted from pins4u:

I doubt you would have been speaking to ANYONE

Quoted from pinwiztom:

That is why I asked the question of the PHoF.
All I have seen or read about the game is from the topic threads here on Pinside,
And most all reports were not too kind.
so i was asking for a different first hand perspective.

Quoted from pins4u:

.....AND......that's EXACTLY what I said. The reports on here are just sour grapes or complete BS made up by people trying to attract attention to their own miserable lives!
They have ZERO actual knowledge of the item so I would suggest ignoring anything said on here unless it's by someone who has actual knowledge and isn't just sledging.

Quoted from punkin:

I've got a happy life. I have no sour grapes and would like to see an aussie do well, and I support small pinball companies.
I've played it, there were two at Newcastle Pinfest.
I walked away after plunging from halfway through the second ball of my first game and didn't play another, so can't say i have a ton of experience on it.
But i walked away because i thought it was crap.
Both were broken most of the weekend and they never got the display working on one of them after the first session.
NoBSPunkin

Quoted from pins4u:

There seems to be a little confusion as to who I am. I am NOT Homepin but I do work closely with them on several electronic projects (not pinball related). This is why I do have some intimate knowledge of inside workings there. To be clear, Homepin manufactures some electronics for the company I work for, again, nothing to do with pinball.
I have passed on your comments to Homepin. As I understand it, the two at the show in Australia were VERY early builds, in fact the very first two to be assembled so there were a lot of teething problems as well as code that was only about 50% there.
One such issue you mentioned, monitor not working - the HDMI cable to the monitor became caught in the hinged door causing a short that took out part of the power supply. This has been rectified in production machines. It wasn't something that could be repaired on the show weekend.
I'm told the code is much more polished now and Tim (PHoF) acknowledged this in his comments.
Saying you "walked away because it was crap" doesn't offer any insight as to exactly what might be addressed to improve the machine? Just not helpful at all.

Quoted from pins4u:

To be clear, Homepin manufactures some electronics for the company I work for, again, nothing to do with pinball.

Quoted from Noahs_Arcade:

maybe teach them about signal i/o protection. they're going to burn some chinese houses down.

Quoted from pins4u:

I happen to know there are a total of three (yes THREE) TAP machines out there in the wild currently (as at Nov 1st 2022) and only ONE MACHINE in the USA.
I doubt you would have been speaking to ANYONE who would have other than a personal opinion which could not be based on any actual knowledge. It's very unlikely they would "know" anything at all about this machine.
Why can't we give new companies a bit of a chance rather than trying to drag them down at every opportunity?
How about reserve your judgement until YOU see one and then let us know what you think based on FACTS!!

Quoted from pins4u:

.....AND......that's EXACTLY what I said. The reports on here are just sour grapes or complete BS made up by people trying to attract attention to their own miserable lives!

Quoted from adol75:

I just got out from PHOF and of course I had to put a dollar in Spinal Tap.
I have to give credit to Homespun when credit is due. They managed to make a bigger dud than Thunderbirds at every single level.
The build quality is worse than ever, the playfield reached ground zero, it flips like my grandma playing soccer, the game just sucks like pinball never sucked before.
But hey the good news is the plastic lockbar is still there and geels plastics as always !

Quoted from pins4u:

You didn't pay much attention then, the lockbar is stamped metal as Tim has already told us. I doubt you even went there - pics or it never happened.

Quoted from adol75:

You really think I'm gonna waste time entertaining you ? I've lost enough time playing that turd, I'm done thank you

Quoted from pins4u:

There seems to be a little confusion as to who I am.

Quoted from pins4u:

I owned and operated my own factory in China for 5 years (and yes, I lived there as well).

Quoted from adol75:

the game just sucks like pinball never sucked before.

Quoted from too-many-pins:

Personally I don't like the newer Dodge or Ford Vans so I bought a Chevy Van. I don't waste time arguing with people who prefer a Dodge or Ford I just buy what I like and enjoy owning it.

Quoted from pins4u:

I doubt you have even seen it.
Just crawl back to your burrow and stop spreading BS to try and justify your sad existence.

Quoted from mwiz:

the coin slots in thunderburds wasn't accepting coins

Quoted from pins4u:

There seems to be a little confusion as to who I am. I am NOT Homepin but I do work closely with them on several electronic projects (not pinball related). To be clear, Homepin manufactures some electronics for the company I work for, again, nothing to do with pinball.

Quoted from adol75:

Here was my happy existence yesterday next to a true Legend.
And kudos for putting optos on your 20 feet long outlanes, now that's a true pinball innovation that Deeproot would be jealous of.
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Quoted from adol75:

Here was my happy existence yesterday next to a true Legend.
And kudos for putting optos on your 20 feet long outlanes, now that's a true pinball innovation that Deeproot would be jealous of.
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Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:

Seriously though, how do you confuse a stamped metal lockdown bar with plastic?