Quoted from Strummy:The new car market sucks too. Priced a duramax silverado 1500 today. No negotiation on the msrp and like a 6 to 8 month wait
SF Bay area dealers are asking (and getting) $4-6k OVER msrp on new Honda Odysseys. We felt LUCKY to find the color/model we were looking for at "only" $2k over msrp. The dealership we bought from is selling them literally before they hit the lot. If our 2008 Odyssey wasn't on its last legs with major repairs needed to keep it going past 250k miles, I would have waited, but we didn't have a choice. Definitely NOT a buyer-friendly market.