Please delete all of your 23 game ratings. Thank you.

Sigh.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/search?s=1&what=topics&q=top+100&topic-machine=&pinsider=&age_days=&subforum=0&sort_by=date&sort_order=DESC#results

If you would like to read up on why the top 100 list is the way it is, it has been discussed many times in many other threads similar to yours.

A lot of people simply have a lot of opinions, and not everyone agrees with each other's opinions.

If you're able to keep things fun and light, and can avoid some of the heavily opinionated threads, then you'll probably be able to have a good time.

Our hobby has grown big time so there are more new members with different opinions and old school pinsiders like you and me should know by now how things are flowing.

Yeah I did for awhile and came back and said to myself holee shit!! Man,my beloved hobby is different now

For sure. We can't allow these 100 games to spread the Coronavirus and I agree the list should be shut down and these games isolated for the foreseeable future.

Hahaha!!! Levi your alright I don’t give a shit what anyone says about you!! Hahaha!!!!

Play more pinball it’ll get your mind off all this crazy shit that’s going on

Hahaha!!! I hear ya my friend it’s all good play ball!!

There is a top 100?

Ha! I’ve only looked at it maybe 2 times in all these years I’ve been here

If you dont like the list, dont look at it

I don't look at it as much as I used to, but I still love the Pinside top 100, and I still wish they could also start a sub category for arcade games.

Yes, I know other sites already does that, but they suck. Pinside is the best site for games period. (and the characters here are very entertaining, and/or very helpful).

People are actually very helpful and nice on this forum as a whole. Especially when compared to other forums I have frequented over the years. We should try and look at the positive and take what good we can. The top 100 is a little funny but I'm glad it's there.

You seem to be very pessimistic about it. People tend to get out of things what they are looking for.

If you need to take a break, do it. Maybe you just need a xanax and new high score...I don't know. Whatever it is...you do you.

I can assure you, there are tons of great people on pinside who are nice, helpful, fun, generous, and well-meaning.

The top 100 is fine it just needs to be weighted differently and have say a min of 500 ratings to be included. This way you have a real sampling volume that makes sense. I am sure I am not the first one to bring this up and it cant be that hard to implement? Come on Pinside make the change!!

He's right. It should be shit down! My favorite game is rated way too high. Thunderbirds is OVER-represented.

There's a top 100 list? Never knew or cared about it. Worry about what you like and not what everyone else likes, heck look at my collection.....LOL.

John

Okay Einstein. You just stated an empty statement. Please elaborate your opinion and give some depth to this thread.

You also said like 2 times it is time for a time-out. Is that a promise?

Whew, it's been like a week or two since the last one of these posts. I was getting worried someone forgot about it.

Don’t ever mind strongly opinionated. I like reading all the comments on ratings rather than just a number, but do so on both IDPB and pinside. Let’s me know what to expect on a game. Don’t really care where it’s ranked, just what people feel about it. Pros and cons. It’s very easy to spot a fanboy, a hater, and a balanced view. I focus on the balanced view.

Also agree that going for technical problem threads avoids a lot of the less than desirable “I have a point of view and you are going to hear it” threads.

For sure in some threads people just like to hear themselves talk and get a rise out of people. Pinside thru it’s ignore button let’s me keep them from doing that.

Lol, it’s unbelievable how much stress and grief the top 100 manages to bring to some people. Yeah, taking a break is probably a really, really good idea for you. Sounds like it’s long overdue.

I respect your ratings but man you are wayyyyyy off based on how I feel about those games. We are all different so just enjoy your games and don’t worry about why people don’t think the same way you do.

Show me where this is occurring in any single tech thread or club thread.

Stick to those only and you’ll never see the trolls again.

Please go back through and fix your own ratings. Not saying they are all wrong, but come on man. No way Walking Dead is only a 6.738 rating (in the context of all your other ratings).

Shh, don't let the secret out. Those threads are like another world.

Here's a novel idea OP: The next time your cursor (or finger if using a mobile device) is hovering over the "Top 100", just don't click (or tap) it!

Drastic times call for drastic measures! Do your part OP!

So use it wisely with custom option.

What a bizarre thread.

It’s cancel culture run amok. People don’t like something for whatever personal reason and feel because they don’t like it should be canceled for everyone else rather than them just not looking at it. An odd perspective to say the least, but one that has been growing the past few years.

People don’t even understand the real purpose of this list. It’s not to be the Rosetta Stone of pinball rankings; it’s to amuse, and also drive traffic to pinside which it is VERY successful at.

A partner suggested I do this about 17 years ago for my site (make a ranking/price guide page), and I brushed it off. It was obviously a great idea.

The top 100 is just a reference page, it blows my mind how many people take it personally. It does make me chuckle how many times I hear people refer to their top 10 games (and it is 4 months old).. I agree 100%, the weighing of the statistics is completely off for this ever to represent an accurate picture. The biggest offender is time followed by the availability and cost of the game... How can TZ with 1372 votes on a game almost 3 decades old sit behind JP with 466 votes and a life span of 8 months? Easy answer, social dynamics. Everyone who buys one feels compelled to give it the highest ratings I am guilty as well.. Like it or not when you spend 8-10K on a Pin human nature is to justify it, not only to our spouses (who has mastered this and if you have, start a "how-to" thread) but to the Pinside community as well.

Not that any of this matters, I built my life around numbers and find this stuff fascinating.

It would be cool to adjust the weighing by:
1. Age:
New - this would tell you what was the hot sellers of the year
1-10 - this would tell you which one of those "new games" were actually good and not being justified purchases
10-20 - this would be interesting to see as WPC ages
20-30 - the shift of the old school pinheads who loved EM to ESS and SS (that would show something)
30 plus - really, 30 years old and we still talk about them, this deserves more than a list!!!!

2. availability
This would have to be an extrapolation of (Production run) (Year's produced) (attrition value)

3. ***Waiting period before they can be weighed against the list (like the hall of fame, there is always a waiting period since the most recent players will always win, it's about being remembered later not now. even if it was only 1 year, it would make a huge difference (maybe have them but highlight them as rookies)

just some thoughts while I am locked up through another week...

Cheers

John

Haha...man I haven’t clicked that in a loooong time. Good to see Stern JP in the Top 5 because that’s definitely where it belongs. Seems like a noob list to me. After many years in the hobby, you know what you like, so why should it bother you?

When I was living in an apartment I enjoyed playing foosball in bars and pinball on location. Once I purchased my house in 1993 every time I played pinball I looked at it from the standpoint of "is this a game I must own?" I have hunted down and purchased every one of my must-own games. So my personal top ten of all time are ten of the games I have. (Some of my games, like Baywatch, Barb Wire and X-files, were opportunity buys and were not must-own games.) It doesn't matter to me how others rate pins or where my games are on the Pinside Top 100, because I think it's great that different people have different tastes.

Some games that just missed being must-owns to me are MM (I like AFM better and they are too similar), FH and Getaway.

Exactly.

The Op has been musterbating too much.

I think it's IMS (Irritable Male Syndrome) or LOW T. Seems pretty common around these parts.

The top 100 is pretty accurate overall. I disagree with the placement of some of the pins on the list, but I can't really argue any of their current relative positions. Sure, newer games are going to get a lot of bias since that's what most people play, but some of those newer ones are certainly the classics of tomorrow. Older pins are in the top 100 ... many classic Bally and Stern machines are on the list ... the System 11 pins are well represented. We can certainly nitpick their positions on the list, but things will straighten out once the novelty of the newer pins wears off and people form more rational judgements.

My biggest disagreement with the list is that AFM should be #1 vs. MM since sci-fi is sooooooo much better than dragons and medieval stuff ... and that's a fact too, not opinion . Also, how in the hell are Quicksilver and Stargazer listed significantly higher than Seawitch and Nine Ball ???

One final note, this list doesn't impact price that much if at all. Were that the case, I'd be able to pick up those mid to late 80s Gottlieb pins for nothing .

Agreed. Despite the smoke and confusion and various biases, I find the Top 100 to be a fair indication/accurate ranking of overall quality as far as layout; rules; enjoyability; cohesion of design; implementation of theme.

Yes, this exactly! Along with the "close the thread" people. WTF? Just look the other way and enjoy the parts you like.

Time he met Squanchy.

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Damn,The OP has been here 15yrs!?!?...How old is our wonderful Pinside site?

I disagree