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The “temporarily closed or worried about having to close my arcade” thread

By pookycade

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    #166 4 years ago
    Quoted from alveolus:

    Just musing here, but this has me thinking a lot about all the small businesses and their employees who are at risk. The national focus is naturally on mitigating the health impact and mortality due to the outbreak, but there is comparatively little discussion regarding the economic morbidity consequences to the at-risk from the shutdown of society.
    As a healthcare worker, I spend a lot of my time discussing risks versus benefits for various interventions, as well as weighing quality-of-life versus quality of life. I’m not sure we are fully exploring the risks of our interventions.
    I suspect it will be an interesting debate for the historians several years from now.

    and after people get the 1K-100K bills from out of network dockers that will push big change in the system.

    #191 4 years ago
    Quoted from Luckydogg420:

    I work for a sub-contractor of Rogers, a major Canadian telecom company.
    We we’re sent home today until May 1st. All non emergency calls are cancelled.
    I’ll be applying for unemployment ASAP.

    tell your local news maybe this can be what is needed to kill the independent contractors in name only and make them have real employment rules covage.

    #251 4 years ago
    Quoted from pookycade:

    Yeah, it does come down to funding doesn't it ? The basic problem is that we currently were running on a revenue of about $3-5K per week (small fish I know), and employment costs of about $800 a week and rent another $800 a week and then repairs - ugh highly variable. I am voluntarily paying my employees during work stoppage and I don't think anyone is letting me out of rent. The one person I don't have to pay is me, or my volunteers. Not a choice if its your livelihood. What I'm saying is that most go fund me campaigns are $20 here, maybe $50 there. Takes alot to get up to $4K and thats just for one operator. I know for sure that these barcades and such have to do WAY better than me to just break even. Its a long way of saying that I don't have a solution, the dollar amounts are likely much higher than we can generate even if every pinsider donated. Hmm.

    the citys / states should wave fees to cover the downtime.

    1 week later
    #446 4 years ago
    Quoted from pookycade:

    Was posted on 2N Jenn.[quoted image]

    some states have on line lotto.

    NOW WILL NJ use to say why you can't ever pump your own gas.

    3 weeks later
    #515 3 years ago
    Quoted from SadSack:

    Sanitize machines between patrons.

    So all games 1 player only??

    That can work for 4 player groups

    #657 3 years ago
    Quoted from desertT1:

    Was the context within state lines or across state lines? Was there a mass exodus away from NYC? If there was going to be I would have imagines it already would have happened.
    Can you legally check ID and turn those from out of the area away? What about college kids who are away from home (in state or out of state) and all sorts of other exceptions that might have to be accounted for.
    At work if you have to go in, I don’t at this point typically, but I am “essential”, they are doing remote temperature scans. Wearing masks is mandatory in addition to the 6’ rule that has been in place for weeks. If you don’t have a mask, a disposable one is available in several locations. This mask rule does not replace the 6’ rule. Sounds like businesses that are looking to open are going to have to create this type of environment as well until it’s no longer needed.

    also rules like that will = issues with sanctioning under IFPA rules.

    #660 3 years ago
    Quoted from desertT1:

    Maybe not if these are government rules. I asked Josh on FB today I’d the IFPA has any thoughts about when to start sanctioning events again based on differences between plans of different states. He said they would make a post regarding timing and rules through the IFPA page and likely FB. Didn’t give a time estimate when this might happen, but it’s not exactly urgent at this point.

    different states with rules like max people being differnt is one thing but banning out of state people or people based on where they live is differnt.

    But does the IFPA really want to deal with papa like ticket buy rushes at small 8-50 people max events?.

    As for rules they may need to balance points for at least the for the old vs new rules? as some things like stern pro may have to have an dead year if say some events are max 25-50 people even more so if techs / staff (non playing) count as part of the pop cap.

    State finales may need to be way more open.

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    #743 3 years ago
    Quoted from BrianBannon:

    Yes, if your customers include families as mine do I don't think any plan will work unless the games are physically unavailable to play. I have seen kids crawl under games, turn games on, plug them back in. Even if the games were off and the kids didn't turn them on, they would be pushing the buttons, checking the coin return on games whether they are powered up or not. They are just kids being kids and I don't think there is too much to be done about that. Certainly, some families would keep a tight rein on their kids but many would not.

    also off on pinball sometimes = broken

    #754 3 years ago
    Quoted from EJS:

    I had a similar thought too. Here's another example of where I hope you(we) you are wrong but I fear you might be right (or onto something).
    I'm afraid laws could be passed where they (govt level at state, city, county, whatever) try to write off amusement devices all together because they have slowed down as a whole or they don't want to write a clause in while they are drafting something for slot machines. Since properties on reservations for slots have always been an exception thing I assume this will continue to be the case.
    I could see something coming from an advocacy group where they try to focus on the use of home systems (PC, PS, XBOX) and promote that use instead. Or a news article saying "roughly 100 years ago pinball games were made illegal in some states....could this happen again in the 2020's?"
    I hope all this doesn't come to be but it's good to have this thinking in mind so we can be proactive to help save as many locations as we can because I'm sure itching to get back out there and play some more pinball!

    Will this kill the cherry masters in WI?

    1 week later
    #821 3 years ago

    Maybe we can have an arcades with something like this to play in https://pillarbooth.com/pages/pillar-protect-booth

    4 weeks later
    #891 3 years ago
    Quoted from DK:

    Is Logan arcade in Chicago open?

    barcades may need to wait to PHASE 4

    4 weeks later
    #972 3 years ago
    Quoted from Whysnow:

    it is interesting to me that so far many of the older places are the ones to toss in the towel first.
    Makes me wonder if their experience and expertise tells them that it is the best thing to get out early
    or
    if they have just been around long enough and timing is right.

    NYNY is high cost and they don't have an bar

    3 weeks later
    #1047 3 years ago
    Quoted from yancy:

    Couldn't disagree more. Pinball is for the proletariat. It's been an affordable escape for almost a century. Even in the great depression most folks could spare a penny for ten plunges on Baffle Ball. They belong in dive bars, arcades, pizza parlors, train terminals, and anywhere regular working people can spare a buck for a few minutes of mechanical magic.

    and some ops need to spare a few bucks to keep the games working I'm seen to many beat down games that don't play that good.

    #1053 3 years ago
    Quoted from Jeffswack:

    I just purchased a family fun center that went under.
    Thats what were doing in the near term. The biggest issue is, it's very hard to make a private rental make economic sense.

    What’s not included in the reservation
    Tickets for each attendee.
    A required $150 minimum food purchase, which does not include tax and gratuity.

    2 weeks later
    #1090 3 years ago
    Quoted from pookycade:

    Weekly update. This is kinda like HEP, but WAYYY less cool and pretty to look at.
    The upside, shifting back to stay as long as you want with 15 minute disinfection/UV breaks every 2 hours is getting us back to more normal. We finally had walk-in traffic again. Lesson learned: forcing people into a pre-booking scenario for specific time slots is enough of a PITA that you are gonna lose customers.
    I have heard that Escape Rooms which were all the rage and required advance booking have been decimated. They have resorted to directing an avatar online remotely. Yeah, thats not gonna work. Maybe someone can direct me online when to flip the flipper.
    Despite the resumption of walk-ins we didn't quite have enough walkin traffic this weekend, 60 on Saturday and 25 on Sunday versus pre-pandemic 150+ on Saturday alone during public hours with a couple of parties before. Let me say that collecting $10 at a time is a hard way to make a living. You need on the weekend to run thru some 150 people just to break even. In this environment good luck. This week we hit $1100.
    We did finally have to make use of our 30 max in at a time waitlist. Try the app Waitlist.me, its pretty foolproof and not just geared for running a restaurant.
    The ONLY thing saving us right now is selling off machines in storage. And boy do we have alot of machines in storage (I am a closet horder). Generated some $10K this week. There is a slight feeling of ripping off ones flesh to make it work, but I'll get over it. The games were just sitting there doing nothing and anything that is either rare rare or grail I will continue to keep (famous last words). Anyway, that helps give a decent runway and make up the revenue shortfall. This is interesting for sure, but it has the upside of forcing us to be far more efficient than we were before, and honestly lets us eliminate headaches. Once I liquidate the 1200 sq ft storage that will also help drop rent by $850 a month (storage is expensive where I am).
    I am still waiting for our MO that we have been pushing about being relatively safe to come to to pay off better than it has. https://www.decadesarcade.com/disinfection-measures/ Or heck maybe its already paying off and our attendance would otherwise be even more gawdawful than it has been. Not sure. Gonna also try a radio ad again (with extensive tracking as I'm skeptical it will do anything). Unfortunately, I have concluded that objective facts about being safer to come to than crowding in with 300 other people at Walmart do not seem to register. Walmart = safe, Arcade = catch COVID
    FYI, I'm not posting any of this because I enjoy spreading our tails of misery out there, but I know that some will stumble on this thread in much the same straits as we are and at least know they aren't alone.
    As it stands right now, we have at least a year of runway before us before I decide it just isn't worth it anymore. If we can increase by just another 20% from where we are right now (which would be 30% pre-pandemic versus current 25% pre-pandemic), the actions we are taking now will guide us into a sustainable, but admittedly bare bones business. Still would you rather have 100 games on the floor and another 70 in storage and be out of business or have 90 games on the floor and be in business. The choice is obvious here.

    they have real pinball on line the small lag really makes it differnt.
    https://www.surrogate.tv/

    1 week later
    #1136 3 years ago
    Quoted from phil-lee:

    I know several places local that would make great Pinball Hideouts.
    Rent is cheap, at an intersection.
    It would have to be a Rebel Joint, operating on the edge.A smoky throwback to an earlier Era.
    Invest in a good Coffee System.
    Any Juke Joint back in the day skirted the laws.
    The ventilation is key, Kudos to Nick Volta for really bringing it to the forefront with a practical solution.

    in WI is that where they have events with cash pay outs?

    #1138 3 years ago
    Quoted from pookycade:

    I tell ya if I was in Colorado I would have been strongly tempted to open the arcade anyway, do everything we are doing now to prevent infections, and challenge unintelligent state government decisions to keep places closed. A nice soapbox to clearly demonstrate illogical hypocrisy run amok. Opening a rebel establishment with no masks, no ventilation and alcohol flowing freely is kinda cliche. Opening a rebel establishment that vastly exceeds state standards but isn’t allowed to officially be open, now that’s actually thumbing ones nose at idiotic bureaucracy.

    and then some cop takes your games and later they show up at his house and then the case dropped.
    Or the cops want to come in and get free play.

    1 month later
    #1224 3 years ago
    Quoted from d0n:

    Chicago is closing down again. 47 states have an increase in positive tests. Ga. + tests are up 15% this week.

    game room only for now for some of the Chicago land places

    2 weeks later
    #1302 3 years ago
    Quoted from MrBally:

    I like how most of the Tribal casinos in Michigan are saying FY to the order and will remain open.

    the state has no control over that

    they have an sign saying not regulated by the state of michigan

    #1304 3 years ago
    Quoted from MrBally:

    I agree and was aware of that. However, all casinos closed in March and reopened in June or July. This time they said no. They will remain open to protect the livelihood of their employees and the various Tribes.
    Also note that no in restaurant dining is allowed under the new three week closure rule. Most, but not all Tribal casinos in Michigan will keep restaurants open. They will be the only places to sit down and eat outside of your home or vehicle.

    new buffalo is nice and they have table games you don't find at other places in the Chicago area.

    4 weeks later
    #1370 3 years ago
    Quoted from NicoVolta:

    Not yet. Hundreds of tabs open & constantly researching things like theme park economics and covid externalities. Hoping I'll have time to sit down and publish more video content later this year.
    Best TLDR advice: Invent crazy new fun opportunities for people to win nice things (ideally with your branding on it). Take their pics & use as social media promotional content. Install a PA system and announce random challenges. I have a Safecracker machine loaded with custom minted RPM tokens... can't buy them, have to win them. Winners get posted on social media. And so forth. Keep your place alive and crackling with energy, random chance, unexpected twists and turns.

    Token = free beer will be fun for Safecracker

    1 week later
    #1375 3 years ago
    Quoted from NicoVolta:

    I wonder what the legalities of this would be. We can give away beer, but you can't legally win beer. But if you win a token with no cash value and exchange it for a beer... hmmmmm.

    the japanese pachinko places do something like that to have the prizes exchanged to cash.

    6 months later
    #1480 2 years ago
    Quoted from srt-8:

    Sadly the situation here in Australia is deteriorating quickly and we have had to close up again (only had 2 weeks of being open and one tournament before having to shut again, since the last lockdown early June). Not looking good as nearly half of Australia's population is now in lockdown (NSW and VIC ... and other places to some extent) and many state borders are completely closed, so no travel. Feel for all our fellow locations here in Australia that have had to shut down .... stay positive! Trust things are getting better for locations in the US and elsewhere (where governments have been on top of getting vaccinations done early ... not like us here in OZ). Stay safe and keep the love alive

    Will the IFPA need to shutdown again? Maybe plan on the makeing qualifying based on 2019? for things in 2022/2023?

    Modifie points for the rest of this year so that USA players can't get an big boost over non USA players with little to no events?

    Maybe 2022 can be better!

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