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    #101 10 months ago
    Quoted from Zablon:

    I agree with some of this, but I don't agree to the reach. It's part of it, but really still caters to the big boys. A payroll tax break is also good...if those people actually have jobs still. The big boys tend to have more wiggle room than the locals.

    The big boys employ most people so any stimulus will obviously skew toward them. They also are the main customers for most small businesses. Always surprised how the companies that provide most of the jobs and wealth in America are characterized as the bad guys or distinct from the average person. There are always bad apples and excesses, but America's corporations are the envy of the world and should be a source of national pride. Hopefully they will continue to set aside short term considerations for the national good during a crisis.

    #102 10 months ago
    Quoted from Jasenwm:

    If this thing is so bad why isn't there ONE case in the world of a healthy person under the age of 65 dead from this?

    Ha ha ha. You had me going, but the sheer stupidity of this statement gives your entire post away as a farce. No one can really be this dumb and still operate a keyboard.

    #103 10 months ago

    Hmm...I've been reading a lot about COVID-19, and I've been listening to a lot of doctors with expertise on infectious diseases, and I am convinced that a lot of the measures taken are going overboard. People keep pointing to Italy and saying, "Look! That'll be us in 10 days!" but they seem to be forgetting about South Korea. South Korea's first confirmed case was around the same time as Italy's, and yet they've only had 56 deaths in Korea, not 1000+ like in Italy.

    South Korea's COVID-19 mortality rate is, at current best estimates, about 0.6% on the upper end. With normal flu being about .1%. Scientists are still looking into why there is such a disparity between Italy and Korea. Given the current trends in America, there's no reason to think that we won't be more like Korea and less like Italy in severity. I mean at this point, we just don't know exactly what will happen, but I think it's lunacy to close all the schools in a state, when there are less than 10 confirmed cases of a disease in said state. Like in my state, our schools will be closed this entire week, yet we're in single digits of cases. It just doesn't make sense. At some point life has to go on. Nothing will change by next week. Given the numbers in SD for instance, it's entirely possible that not a single person has COVID in my child's school, and yet all the kids will be home. Parents still work, so it may very well be the vulnerable grandparents looking after the kids!

    It makes far more sense, to me, for everyone to practice sensible social-distancing (no handshakes or hugs, extra hand-washing, no face-touching), and for vulnerable individuals and individuals with symptoms to self-isolate, than for everyone to never go out again. It's not a nice thing for all the vulnerable people to have to isolate, but it makes more sense than having everyone including them isolate. The economy is grinding to a halt over something that is essentially a bad flu. We are 12 months at best from a vaccine, and more likely 18+ months, according to every knowledgeable doctor I've heard. Anti-virals could come sooner, and I think people are mixing up the two. COVID is related to other corona viruses like the common cold, and so because of that, we all ready potentially have some drugs that may work to weaken the virus and reduce symptoms. And so, within weeks we may have some anti-virals, but make no mistake it will be a year or more for a vaccine, and like I said, at some point life must go on. Yes, there will be more cases, and potentially more deaths, with what I suggest. But there would also be fewer deaths if no one ever drove a car, but at some point you have to balance risk vs. reward. And in states like mine, with single-digit cases. What's the reward for closing the schools for a week (let alone 6 or more)? We don't have a curve to flatten. And how many businesses are going to be ruined and how many families hurt by no one going out?

    Okay, sorry for the wall of text!

    #104 10 months ago
    Quoted from Jasenwm:

    Sorry that so many people on here are sheep and believe the proven lying media. If this thing is so bad why isn't there ONE case in the world of a healthy person under the age of 65 dead from this? It's all people over 65 more like 80+ that have weak immune systems. Those people die of the flu and any other illness. If you have a medical issue where it affects your immune system sorry but YOU have to be careful. So what should we do never do anything ever again, no school or sports or anything ever again? This is bs liberal media hysteria plain and simple. Can't go to school yet you can go to Walmart the mall and every other enclosed place. Doesn't that kinna defeat the purpose of canceling everything?

    The question I am now asking people with this mindset is: What is the magic number that have to die before you think we should take this seriously. And whatever that number is, do you think you should probably try to prevent those deaths, or just let them die, and THEN react? You could be right, this could amount to nothing. I think places like Iran and Italy show that it isn't amounting to nothing.

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    #105 10 months ago

    The “normal” flu has killed over 20,000 this season already....to put things into perspective

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    #106 10 months ago

    Part of the difference is South Korea:

    1) aggressively tested and quarantined people
    2) flattened the curve far more effectively
    3) has significantly more hospital beds per 1000 people.

    https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2020/3/14/21179714/coronavirus-covid-19-hospital-beds-china

    The following is speculation: it may be true that South Korea infected a higher ratio of younger healthier people than Italy. That would also skew the data.

    #107 10 months ago
    Quoted from Blitzburgh99:

    The “normal” flu has killed over 20,000 this season already....to put things into perspective

    So we need at least 20,001 to die first before we consider it an issue?

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    #108 10 months ago
    Quoted from Zablon:

    So we need at least 20,001 to die first before we consider it an issue?

    Look at the numbers of how many people die each day of various forms of death, and ask yourself “why is this one more important than others”.

    #109 10 months ago
    Quoted from Blitzburgh99:

    Look at the numbers of how many people die each day of various forms of death, and ask yourself “why is this one more important than others”.

    I have, and common sense tells me that an unknown virus with unknown outcomes is something to look at pretty closely and stop before it does get bad. The majority of those 'other deaths' are not spread to others. I think where people are getting hung up on numbers is where the mistake lies. We don't want to wait until it is as bad as the flu or anything else.

    #110 10 months ago
    Quoted from Zablon:

    The question I am now asking people with this mindset is: What is the magic number that have to die before you think we should take this seriously. And whatever that number is, do you think you should probably try to prevent those deaths, or just let them die, and THEN react? You could be right, this could amount to nothing. I think places like Iran and Italy show that it isn't amounting to nothing.

    Honest question: What's your number?

    #111 10 months ago

    The Fed just made a major panic move. The CDC just banned groups over 50.Casinos in Vegas are shutting down. I worry more about the European banks. Lots of pinball being played at home while we hunker down. Back to my bunker. I plan to Rule the Universe this week.

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    #112 10 months ago
    Quoted from Zablon:

    I have, and common sense tells me that an unknown virus with unknown outcomes is something to look at pretty closely and stop before it does get bad. The majority of those 'other deaths' are not spread to others. I think where people are getting hung up on numbers is where the mistake lies. We don't want to wait until it is as bad as the flu or anything else.

    A drunk driver killing someone “spreads” to others

    #113 10 months ago
    Quoted from Blitzburgh99:

    Look at the numbers of how many people die each day of various forms of death, and ask yourself “why is this one more important than others”.

    Because of the math. A "do-nothing approach" could lead to +1million deaths over the next year. The article below is the "worst-case" possibility, but that is what could happen if we don't take precautions.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/487489-worst-case-coronavirus-models-show-massive-us-toll

    I am still baffled why people think Italy, Spain, France, Singapore, and others decided to shut down their entire countries over media hyperbole. Do you think those were easy decisions? Are they playing some sort of game? How were they able to get freaking Newt Gingrich to write an article warning America to "act big" .

    https://www.newsweek.com/newt-gingrich-i-am-italy-amid-coronavirus-crisis-america-must-act-now-act-big-opinion-1492270

    #114 10 months ago
    Quoted from mbwalker:

    Honest question: What's your number?

    I don't have a number. If the governments of other countries are freaking out about this...some of those who don't care about their citizens nearly as much as America supposedly cares about theirs, then I'm concerned.

    #115 10 months ago
    Quoted from Blitzburgh99:

    A drunk driver killing someone “spreads” to others

    So now we're comparing it to drunk driving. Got it. That's American school system logic there.

    #116 10 months ago
    Quoted from Frax:

    Cidercade in Dallas is shut down as of today. So with BOS eating dirt, and Cidercade being shut down, the only real pinball on location in Dallas is pretty much limited to Pinstack (bowling alley that has a few of the most recent Sterns) and Free Play (Richardson only ever has like 4 or 5 at a time, and Arlington has a bunch, but it's Arlington and nobody with half a brain wants to drive into Arlington, because the cops are power-tripping assholes that will sit behind a shrub half a mile down from an exit ramp and tag you the second you touch the exit ramp and pull you over if you're 1 MPH over, despite there being nobody around you....and they set up with 3 motorcycle cops and one cruiser just to make sure they can get EVERYONE)

    Travis Hintzel's Regeneration has pins and arcades as well.

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    #117 10 months ago
    Quoted from Blitzburgh99:

    The “normal” flu has killed over 20,000 this season already....to put things into perspective[quoted image]

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/10/coronavirus-what-matters-isnt-what-you-can-see-what-you-cant/

    There’s an old brain teaser that goes like this: You have a pond of a certain size, and upon that pond, a single lilypad. This particular species of lily pad reproduces once a day, so that on day two, you have two lily pads. On day three, you have four, and so on.

    Now the teaser. “If it takes the lily pads 48 days to cover the pond completely, how long will it take for the pond to be covered halfway?”

    The answer is 47 days. Moreover, at day 40, you’ll barely know the lily pads are there.

    More coverage of the coronavirus outbreak

    That grim math explains why so many people — including me — are worried about the novel coronavirus, which causes a disease known as covid-19. And why so many other people think we are panicking over nothing.

    During the current flu season, they point out, more than 250,000 people have been hospitalized in the United States, and 14,000 have died, including more than 100 children. As of this writing, the coronavirus has killed 29 people, and our caseload is in the hundreds. Why are we freaking out about the tiny threat while ignoring the big one?

    Quite a number of people have suggested that it’s because the media just wants President Trump to look bad. Trump seems particularly fond of this suggestion.

    But go back to those lily pads: When something dangerous is growing exponentially, everything looks fine until it doesn’t. In the early days of the Wuhan epidemic, when no one was taking precautions, the number of cases appears to have doubled every four to five days.

    The crisis in northern Italy is what happens when a fast doubling rate meets a “threshold effect,” where the character of an event can massively change once its size hits a certain threshold.

    In this case, the threshold is things such as ICU beds. If the epidemic is small enough, doctors can provide respiratory support to the significant fraction of patients who develop complications, and relatively few will die. But once the number of critical patients exceeds the number of ventilators and ICU beds and other critical-care facilities, mortality rates spike.

    #118 10 months ago
    Quoted from NC_Pin:

    Because of the math. A "do-nothing approach" could lead to +1million deaths over the next year. The article below is the "worst-case" possibility, but that is what could happen if we don't take precautions.
    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/487489-worst-case-coronavirus-models-show-massive-us-toll
    I am still baffled why people think Italy, Spain, France, Singapore, and others decided to shut down their entire countries over media hyperbole. Do you think those were easy decisions? Are they playing some sort of game? How were they able to get freaking Newt Gingrich to write an article warning America to "act big" .
    https://www.newsweek.com/newt-gingrich-i-am-italy-amid-coronavirus-crisis-america-must-act-now-act-big-opinion-1492270

    I think ultimately it has less to do with what they are hearing and more to do with the little selfish 'me me me' mentality that is so prevalent these days. "I don't want to have to be inconvenienced", etc. Some of it is legitimate fear of the unknown..such as, job security, paying bills, their kids, their parents etc. It's how some people deal. America's 'can do' attitude has carried us through many a crisis. There is no denying that. I think we've mostly become numb to being told what the next thing we need to fear is...I am guilty of that as well, I stopped caring about the news many years ago. I would be much less concerned about what is going on now if it wasn't for what is unfolding in the rest of the world. That being said, I'm just concerned, not nearly panicked. I think it has to get a lot worse before that happens.

    #119 10 months ago
    Quoted from Zablon:

    I don't have a number. If the governments of other countries are freaking out about this...some of those who don't care about their citizens nearly as much as America supposedly cares about theirs, then I'm concerned.

    Thanks Zab, I liked your honest answer. I know it sounded like a loaded question. And in a way it was simply because it's almost impossible for anyone to answer. Hard to assign a number.

    #120 10 months ago
    Quoted from Rarehero:

    You and everyone like you spreading willful ignorance & disinformation should be classified as a bio-terrorist. Your type of idiocy is going to kill people.

    At this point it’s just silly. No one wants to be the statistic. If your odds are 0.6 percent of dying and 15 % chance of needing a ventilator, those odds are not good. -Pinside should ban this nonsense as it could get people killed. No one needs to die.

    Plus look at the mass graves in Iran.

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    #121 10 months ago

    Medicare is planned to go bankrupt in 2026. Medicaid funds are drying up. Looking at the ledger sheets, a dead Medicare/Medicaid beneficiary means no future fiscal obligation. Millennials don’t care about boomers anyways. So why not spread a disease to extinguish the group causing the most expensive health care expense.

    Washington Nursing Home lost what? 30 residents? Let’s call it that for easy numbers. Assuming they are all Medicaid (the vast majority generally are), and the average monthly cost to Medicaid per resident is $5,500. That’s $165,000 per month, and $1,980,000 per annum.

    There are 233 nursing homes in Washington state. Let’s say the other 232 each lose 30 residents. That’s $459,360,000 per year. A half a billion dollars savings to the State of Washington Medicaid program. A half a billion dollars that can be used for millennials free stuff with socialism.

    #122 10 months ago
    Quoted from stooped:

    Lots of pinball being played at home while we hunker down.

    I wondered about this part. I haven't seen it yet. I have wondered if tech support calls will increase ?

    LTG : )

    #123 10 months ago
    Quoted from LTG:

    I wondered about this part. I haven't seen it yet. I have wondered if tech support calls will increase ?
    LTG : )

    If you don't mind me asking, how much of your business is house calls?

    #124 10 months ago
    Quoted from DakotaMike:

    And so, within weeks we may have some anti-virals, but make no mistake it will be a year or more for a vaccine, and like I said, at some point life must go on.

    Yeah, we won't have any vaccines very soon, but we will, at the very least, have a decent amount of herd immunity in a couple months. The main point of social distancing is to slow the spread of the virus down, not stop it. Eradicating the virus isn't possible at this point, but at least we can try slowing down the spread enough to keep hospitals from overflowing. Once it sweeps through a significant portion of the population it won't spread as easily since many people will be immune and unable to transfer it. That's my understanding of the situation anyways. Once cases peak and start dropping, things will hopefully start opening up again.

    #125 10 months ago
    Quoted from mystman12:

    Yeah, we won't have any vaccines very soon

    I just saw an AP story that they will reportedly start testing a vaccine tomorrow. It’s still a year or so out, but still...

    #126 10 months ago
    Quoted from LTG:

    I wondered about this part. I haven't seen it yet. I have wondered if tech support calls will increase ?
    LTG : )

    I’m playing more, and I’m playing different games. I reset for Classics League play, so the classic games all got flipped back onto legs. So mostly EM play, plus I also have a Volley being loaned to me. And I’ve learned that it’s a fantastic EM. But I didn’t realize I could call you for support on those Lloyd

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    #127 10 months ago
    Quoted from Niterider:

    I just saw an AP story that they will reportedly start testing a vaccine tomorrow.

    Wow, I thought they would be too busy with Hot Wheels, good on them.

    #128 10 months ago
    Quoted from solarvalue:

    Wow, I thought they would be too busy with Hot Wheels, good on them.

    AP=Associated Press.

    #129 10 months ago

    I am really sorry for you guys with arcades and the financial impact that this must be having on you. I volunteer teach martial arts at a couple of dojos ( I have been taking a break from a little before this situation escalated as I am getting ready to move). I was in contact with the Shihans today, and this situation is hitting those businesses hard as well. I think small businesses all over are really taking a beating.

    #130 10 months ago
    Quoted from Blitzburgh99:

    The “normal” flu has killed over 20,000 this season already....to put things into perspective[quoted image]

    Your use of that road death statistic is irresponsible and misleading, that is the number WORLDWIDE. In the US, 33,000 killed in a year.

    Now compare to the Coronavirus projections, which are what, 700,000 to 1,000,000+ deaths in the US if we dont act? Even more than that if the hospitals go beyond capacity? Suddenly having 10x or 20x or 100x more road deaths is the equivalent here.
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    #131 10 months ago
    Quoted from mbwalker:

    If you don't mind me asking, how much of your business is house calls?

    No, I don't mind you asking.

    None.

    My arcade ( where I do tech support from ) is open 12 hours a day ( 10 on Sundays ) That is enough. Though some days I start earlier or run later. Telephone ( 4 phones ) and email ( two email addresses ) PM's here and on Facebook, and people stopping in. Is enough.

    LTG : )

    #132 10 months ago

    Ok, I stepping up here. I'm going to host a free webinar to help operators who want to work through this with me. I'm doing this for my love of arcades and operators.

    Webinar: How to Make Money as an Arcade Operator When Everyone is Afraid to Come Out

    Here is the problem: No one is coming out, people are afraid, no one wants to risk getting sick which means your business is not making any money.

    On this call we will brainstorm creative solutions to deal with this historic challenge.

    Your Host: Chris Frolic is an audacious entrepreneur, creative problem solver and a high school drop out and life-long rule breaker. Chris has created multi-million dollar businesses, been one of the worlds top DJs, and also owns his own private kick-ass arcade. He’s offering his one-of-a-kind background to help come up with outside-the-box solutions that are needed right now to help arcade ops get through this sudden unexpected storm.

    When: Tuesday March 24th 4pm Eastern 1pm Pacific (60 minutes). Online via Zoom.

    Register today at https://www.chrisfrolic.com/arcade-webinar/

    I'm going to create a new thread for this, but want to say I was inspired to do this by the posts in this thread. Please pass on the link to anyone you think might benefit from this!

    #134 10 months ago
    Quoted from SadSack:

    I think if the shutdowns aren't mandatory, arcades will be busy. I can't believe how people are falling for all this nonsense. I thought people learned a little from 911. I guess it's more fun to act emotionally than to honestly assess reality.

    I'm not sure what lessons you're suggesting be learned from 9/11 here. I see lots of people online saying stuff like "I'm not going to let it stop me!" as if this virus was a terrorist attack.
    It's not.
    It's a pandemic that needs everyone to treat it like a pandemic.

    #135 10 months ago

    Notes from Ottawa:
    Our two biggest arcades have closed for C-19. House of Targ and The Neighborhood Pub arcades are both shuttered for the time being.
    When they reopen I swear I'm going to go into each and drop a stack of coins in and let all the kids have the free games.

    #136 10 months ago

    Don't forget your Official Membership into the SS Billiards fan club can also gain you entry into the secret circle which makes you entitled to all honors and benefits occurring there too !

    Signed : LTG : )
    Counter Signed : Pierre Andre'

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    #137 10 months ago
    Quoted from LTG:

    Don't forget your Official Membership into the SS Billiards fan club can also gain you entry into the secret circle which makes you entitled to all honors and benefits occurring there too !
    Signed : LTG : )
    Counter Signed : Pierre Andre'[quoted image]

    Is it in ink?

    #138 10 months ago
    Quoted from luckymoey:

    So are manufacturing, construction, financial services, oil & gas, import/export...essential? You are suggesting the Gov’t put 10’s of millions out of work, and that they can somehow prop it all up. This would cause huge harm, including many unintended medical consequences. I certainly understand shutting down schools, entertainment venues and other gathering spots, maybe even restaurants and malls, and greatly increasing testing, but it could be devastating to shutter the bulk of the world’s largest economy. (Also, the NYT and Newsweek are far from the “bottom line” for many.)

    #139 10 months ago
    Quoted from NC_Pin:

    Is it in ink?

    Pencil, ink, or blood. Depending which category your membership puts you in.

    LTG : )

    #140 10 months ago
    Quoted from LTG:

    Don't forget your Official Membership into the SS Billiards fan club can also gain you entry into the secret circle which makes you entitled to all honors and benefits occurring there too !
    Signed : LTG : )
    Counter Signed : Pierre Andre'[quoted image]

    How do I buy a membership?

    #141 10 months ago
    Quoted from LTG:

    Don't forget your Official Membership into the SS Billiards fan club can also gain you entry into the secret circle which makes you entitled to all honors and benefits occurring there too !
    Signed : LTG : )
    Counter Signed : Pierre Andre'[quoted image]

    Tee shirts?

    #142 10 months ago
    Quoted from Whysnow:

    How do I buy a membership?

    That's a good question.

    LTG : )
    Disclaimer : There is no Official SS Billiards fan club. It's been a running gag for about 40 years. One day I had a little kid come up to the counter, and looked at me. Usually they have money or something and tell you what they want. He just stood there. So I told him for $1200 dollars he could be an Official Member in the SS Billiards fan club. He went wide eyed and said "really ?". He was all excited. It's become part of the SS Billiards lore. Along with the tool fund, speaker fund, muffy fund, etc. etc.

    #143 10 months ago
    Quoted from fosaisu:

    Don’t bother questioning sadsack’s logic. He’ll win the argument, as he always does, by posting his credit score and diagrams of the psychosexual pyramid.

    No one is paying attention to his nonsense. Just ignore him.

    #145 10 months ago
    Quoted from pookycade:

    If you have merch to buy I will gladly do so !

    Count me in too Lloyd!!

    #146 10 months ago

    Cidercade in Dallas just announced they were closing voluntarily until further notice.

    #148 10 months ago
    Quoted from Blitzburgh99:

    Medicare is planned to go bankrupt in 2026. Medicaid funds are drying up. Looking at the ledger sheets, a dead Medicare/Medicaid beneficiary means no future fiscal obligation. Millennials don’t care about boomers anyways. So why not spread a disease to extinguish the group causing the most expensive health care expense.
    Washington Nursing Home lost what? 30 residents? Let’s call it that for easy numbers. Assuming they are all Medicaid (the vast majority generally are), and the average monthly cost to Medicaid per resident is $5,500. That’s $165,000 per month, and $1,980,000 per annum.
    There are 233 nursing homes in Washington state. Let’s say the other 232 each lose 30 residents. That’s $459,360,000 per year. A half a billion dollars savings to the State of Washington Medicaid program. A half a billion dollars that can be used for millennials free stuff with socialism.

    There's a problem with that logic however

    It would take many years for today's youth to get socialisim in place.

    By then today's youth wont be able to bill the dead boomers, or kill them off to steal from. Gen X will be ready for their free lunch soon afterward. Gen whatever is being born now will be ready for their free college just in time.

    The socialist millennial will fund those before & after them but never get a dime in return because power will shift yet again as the next generation will tear down what the elders (millennials) did prior

    It's the beauty of a 2 party system. No one gets shit done lol

    #149 10 months ago
    Quoted from Blitzburgh99:

    Cidercade in Dallas just announced they were closing voluntarily until further notice.

    Yeah...im disappointed. Free play is still open though.

    #150 10 months ago
    Quoted from wlf_:

    Your use of that road death statistic is irresponsible and misleading, that is the number WORLDWIDE. In the US, 33,000 killed in a year.
    Now compare to the Coronavirus projections, which are what, 700,000 to 1,000,000+ deaths in the US if we dont act? Even more than that if the hospitals go beyond capacity? Suddenly having 10x or 20x or 100x more road deaths is the equivalent here.
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    The amount of rabid misinformation from internet denizens, medical doctors, "experts", actual experts, the criminal news media (MSM), Et cetera is exhausting. And especially what's coming out of communist countries that have zero obligation to tell us the truth and a lot to gain from lying (which they have an extensively long history of doing) ((Hong-Kong protest numbers and fatalities, Tienanmen Square had tens of thousands killed, now suggested to be hundreds of thousands, China still claims a few hundred died))!!

    I had been holding my tongue from responding since nobody wants to hear news they disagree with. Funniest bit is when someone who is actually unqualified but considered knowledgeable is mistaken for an expert when they know the same as you or me. Just because someone is a mechanic doesn't mean they can tell you everything you need to know about the new Ferrari's rolling off the lot. We have specialists and even better we have epidemiologists and such, who are some of the only people you should be listening too and actually giving a shit over.

    The amount of people on this site and in the real world who bitch and moan about exponential growth and then have no fucking clue how it works nor it's actual implications drives me through a wall.

    You can't have it both ways, so from the data:

    • If 100k+ people have it in states like Ohio and only ~30 people have died, mortality is well below even .1% more like .03% that's very very minimal.
    • If truly only 2k+ have it then mortality is really high but we seem to be taking the right steps and this virus is getting under control, so extremely few people have the deadly disease.

    To simplify, either it's super deadly but the numbers are accurate and very few people have it OR (extremely likely) it's hardly any worse than a cold and kills almost no one and tons of people have it and we just don't realize because it's so incredibly mild.

    If it's the latter than this panic was overblown by the MSM but many precautions were warranted due to the unknown nature of this disease. Again the real issue is that China is a communist black hole of information so we really only can rely on this information from the resultant infections in Europe and cannot rely on the epicenter of the outbreak due to misinformation.

    We are trying to diagnose what repairs a pinball machine will need from the broken parts someone brings us and not actually seeing the machine ourselves. So when we head on the service call we pack our bags with every part we can think of and hope that our experience taught us enough that we'll be properly repaired for this mystery repair.

    https://www.julianagrant.com/blog/2020/3/3/covid-19-what-to-expect

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