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The story of my first Pin entitled 'How I got Choggarded"

By NextoPin

9 years ago


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#95 9 years ago
Quoted from aveamike:

reminds me of dealing with barry from NJ.

+1.

I'm sorta on the fence about outing behavior/sellers like this. On one-hand a seller should be able to list whatever turd they have for whatever price they want - and buyer beware. On the other hand, the number of bad experiences with sellers like this should be readily documented - if only to help newer buyers in the hobby.

Part of the problem is that the details of the seller (good or bad) may not be readily available from the potential buyers perspective. I almost bought a Fireball from barry. It was almost a side-thought to do a search for his name here - glad I did. I can see where it could be easy to get involved in a sale with someone like barry or choggard - spending time researching the machine (especially if a first) - without doing due diligence research on the seller. Too bad there isn't a seller/buyer rating.

#413 9 years ago

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Quoted from Choggard:

I've got about a 1% complaint record when it comes down to it, I'd say I am doing pretty good considering the amount of machines I've sold.

I understand that 73% of statistics are made up on the fly....but I am curious. How many machines you sell in 6 mos Choggard? Just trying to get a sense. Just with the links from this thread I count four complaints that were posted here. That would come out to you selling at least 400 games in that 6 month time-frame. At that rate, you should have a much better sense of what you're selling, how to identify parts, how to completely and correctly make repairs, etc. I'm wonder if this complaint rate is closer to 10% - 20% or more.

#423 9 years ago
Quoted from drsfmd:

I didn't say anything about lying or taking advantage.

The thread isn't an indictment of capitalism in pinball. Its about an amateur pinball flipper berating sellers and using questionable methods to obtain machines (with problems) and then turning around and touting himself as an expert to sell them as premium "no-worries" machines to uneducated buyers. What I see makes many here upset is his insistence that he is adding some significant value to the machines when he is only slightly more knowledgeable than the new buyers and offers nothing more than a wipe-down service to machines he likely can't properly evaluate to begin with.

#472 9 years ago
Quoted from Choggard:

I sold the machine for around $1,850 which is a fair price for the condition of that BK2000.

Didn't the op say he purchased it for $2500? A $650 difference is not insignificant.

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