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The stiff winds of momentum change in pinball manufacturing

By Cserold

5 years ago


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    #1 5 years ago

    Apparently its Friday because I was just sitting here thinking about how stressful/difficult it must be for guys like Gary, Jack and others leading pinball manufacturing companies. With sales trending increasingly towards more home ownership purchases, there is so much emotion involved in the purchasing of a new pinball machine these days.

    It seems like public perception of the "hot" manufacturer can change in the matter of a few hours. I'm sure some will disagree, but it feels like just a few weeks ago the general consensus was that Stern's quick production/release model was losing steam with undeveloped code (GOTG,BM66), unpopular/uninspired art on massive licenses (Star Wars), having nothing to new to put on display at the biggest shows, etc. Felt like JJP was taking a big step towards gaining market share (and possibly control) with the unique and creative features of POTC and the traction it gained at the big shows.

    So, all this is going on and in the background, you have Gary holding his Iron Maiden card and not being able to say a thing and Jack having to know that POTC has some major design challenges that need to be changed. In complete contrast to recent history, Maiden drops to smashing reviews with developed code, sick art and a refreshingly unique layout. Poor Eric is thrown to wolves on POTC "tweaks." All the while both have to be shaking their heads at the popularity of TNA and Spooky running with Scott's design.

    This is NOT a JJP vs. Stern debate. It's simply an observation that this is a pretty unique competitive landscape and that I'm damn glad I'm not the guy running either of these companies....wow. Lot's of respect for them all and fingers crossed that the market is big enough to support all of them for a long time to come.

    In 5 years time, how do you think this all plays out?

    #4 5 years ago
    Quoted from SuperPinball:

    I guess you are only as good as your last pin released.

    That about sums up my long winded post. Very nice.

    Quoted from InfiniteLives:

    $8500 pros, $1400 LES, $1800 JJPs

    The only way I can make sense of this is $850 pros. Typo?

    #20 5 years ago
    Quoted from DennisDodel:

    Steve Kordek said it: "Two dogs in a row can kill a pinball company."

    I think that is definitely true for most right now. Perhaps Stern has already proven that to be false (in their case), however.

    Quoted from ForceFlow:

    It's like a group of kids chasing after a soccer ball.

    Totally agree and great analogy. If you have ever had to painfully watch 6 and under soccer you know exactly what he means.

    #21 5 years ago
    Quoted from Whysnow:

    Iron Maiden is nothing special. It is a new fun game and delivery is happening. The excitement is fueled (sadly) since the previous bar was set so low with Stern that we all expected crap code and only 2 flippers on a game. Nice to see Stern has made it back to what many consider the baseline of acceptable.

    I understand and agree with your general sentiment here but totally disagree that it Maiden is "nothing special" This wasn't a theme game for me at all but is the hands down favorite for any NIB game I've owned. Thought it would be a while before something beat DI for me. You may just consider an occasional "in my opinion, " or "for me, " every now and again.

    #24 5 years ago
    Quoted from Whysnow:

    should be assumed in any online forum IMO...

    Ha. I see what you did there. And that’s a fair point.

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