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The SprayMax 2K Auto Clear in a Can Club!

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#1038 4 years ago

Team Max2K,

Over the last 3 years or so I've done two playfields with Max2K and both came out good. One was Firepower and the other was Bally Monte Carlo. I'm no artist so I don't even try to make touch-up part of the process; I just want to keep the art that is there from getting any worse. I'm working myself toward doing a Flash and I've run across a concern that I figured I would seek feedback via this thread.

I have a total of 4 Flash playfields (story for another day) from which I selected the best as the clear coat candidate. Problem is the candidate is not be made of plywood - I think it's some sort of MDF. And I don't think the art on top is just paint on top of the material. It just looks different from the edge than painted plywood. Maybe this different material is why this candidate has weathered the years so well. Pictures below are the edges of first the 'maybe MDF' PF and second a plywood PF

My questions revolve around whether I should clear this guy. For example, if the material is more forgiving/pliable than plywood will the clear fail? Some inserts are loose so I'll be correcting that as well. Maybe I'd need different glue for this material? What other "gotcha's" might you worry about with this playfield? If anyone has come across this and can report results I'd be much appreciated. I didn't know there were non-plywood playfields out there. I could just do one of the plywood PFs but there is a big difference in art condition between this example's art and the other three I own.

the non plywood PFthe non plywood PF

one of my plywood PFsone of my plywood PFs

-Rob
-visit http://www.kahr.us to get my daughterboard that helps fix WPC pinball resets or my Pinball 2000 H+V Video Sync Combiner kit

#1041 4 years ago
Quoted from Schwaggs:

Is that possibly veneer over solid wood? It looks like you might be able to see very light grain in the wood on the edge. Can you post a picture of the shooter lane groove and the radius around the scoop?

Thanks, great ideas for additional relevant pictures. Got me thinking I could take a couple with my USB microscope as well. Here they are (sorry the microscope pics don't allow a zoom-in):

1. Shooter lane - shows no woodgrain

Shooter laneShooter lane

2. Scoop - no woodgrain here either

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3. Cut for the drop targets - doesn't look like plywood

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4. Microscope pics - look at the second one in particular where the yellow seems to seep down into the wooden layer

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Also visible in the two microscope shots are cracking that is not visible to the naked eye.

Obviously I've still got cleaning work to do.

-Rob
-visit http://www.kahr.us to get my daughterboard that helps fix WPC pinball resets or my Pinball 2000 H+V Video Sync Combiner kit

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#1045 3 years ago
Quoted from rkahr:

Thanks, great ideas for additional relevant pictures. Got me thinking I could take a couple with my USB microscope as well. Here they are (sorry the microscope pics don't allow a zoom-in):
1. Shooter lane - shows no woodgrain

Shooter lane

2. Scoop - no woodgrain here either

IMG_2974 (resized).JPG

3. Cut for the drop targets - doesn't look like plywood

IMG_2975 (resized).JPG

4. Microscope pics - look at the second one in particular where the yellow seems to seep down into the wooden layer

20200414_164525097 (resized).png

20200414_164549758 (resized).png

Also visible in the two microscope shots are cracking that is not visible to the naked eye.
Obviously I've still got cleaning work to do.
-Rob
-visit http://www.kahr.us to get my daughterboard that helps fix WPC pinball resets or my Pinball 2000 H+V Video Sync Combiner kit

Given those pictures what's the collective thought on clearing this PF? Maybe nobody has come across a PF like this?

-Rob
-visit http://www.kahr.us to get my daughterboard that helps fix WPC pinball resets or my Pinball 2000 H+V Video Sync Combiner kit

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