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New: Slap Save Interviews Stern's Mike Vinikour


1 year ago

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    #232 1 year ago

    Hello Jason,

    I really enjoy your podcast and appreciate your efforts to entertain and inform us.

    I am somewhat disturbed at Zach’s obvious slap down on your reasons for not buying WW. It was uncalled for, as you have legitimate reasons for not purchasing and I happen to agree with you.

    Zach is first and foremost a salesman and cannot really offer much of an unbiased opinion. But I was very unimpressed with how he treated you during your debate on WW. His points were points made by a sales bully! You always sounded respectful to him, calling him by his first name. He always referred to you by your last, which is a sign of disrespect (Zach will probably say that indicates we are close friends, which is rubbish in a public forum - no one with class does that).

    He just made excuse after excuse to your point of a poorly executed offering from JJP. Your points about its lack of IP and other things were spot on. Zach only poo poo’d everything you said. He used sales bullying techniques quite well to beat you back into your corner. His points about WW touring the chocolate factory are not accurate, as the clips mostly have zero audio and the narrator is just plain annoying, with slot machine music galore. No authentic actual music in the machine and WW is a musical after all! None of the mechs have any correlation to the factory, which was your point and the table feels stripped down, compared to the bar JJP has set on its other offerings. Zach just just did more slap down to your points here, calling you a complainer. This is exactly how politicians label and slap down their opponents. Maybe Zach is better suited to politics?

    Stand up to Zach on your points. They are valid and well thought out. Don’t let Zach treat you this way. He delivered his rebuttal in a somewhat condescending manner and as one that sells JJP offerings, that I get. Zach has chosen in the past to step down from giving reviews because of the conflict of interest and is a wise choice. He no longer is creditable in that arena, if he ever was. He has tippy toed down the wire in the past, giving almost all table offerings an A or B, which is not much in the way of a reliable review after all, him not wanting to offend any manufacturer. As a listener, we cannot rely on much of Zach reviews in regard to critique.

    Please keep up the fun with your broadcast and keep them “Slap Save” instead of Zach’s guest appearance episode of “Slap Down”.

    Yours truly,
    PS - Those that say your podcast won’t be around as long as JJP, is just more put down, best to be ignored. When people don’t have a legitimate rebuttal, they attempt putting others down as a last resort.

    #245 1 year ago
    Quoted from ZMeny:

    West, West, West, sit down, breath, I have apparently stirred up something in you, for which I apologize, while also patting myself on the back. I sell pinball machines, I host a podcast and YouTube show,.....I have promised to provide entertainment to this industry. Today you heard me providing an alternate view, aimed to match the strength of arguments coming from one of my best friends. Debate and passion is entertaining, it is pinball, and it is what fueled your comment above. I simply provided you with something you wanted, when you didn’t recognize it at the time.

    Zachery, I appreciate the comments, with my gun back in the holster and now breathing more slowly again. Yes, I did feel the need to come to the defense of a guy (Artimus) I like hearing on a podcast, because you were good enough to seem to overwhelm him with non-facts, lol. So fair enough, it is pinball passion that got us here. Class act to come and explain. You got me going for sure, as any good politician can do, haha. So all is well. Keep up the fun! Your buddy explained it well too, so maybe it wasn’t as much of a slap down as I originally thought? Looks like a Slap Save after all...

    #246 1 year ago

    This is what I originally pictured as I listened to you two on the broadcast...

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    #266 1 year ago
    Quoted from SDTMinSTL:

    Man. I absolutely love the discussion, and it's great to hear those of you that like it and why.
    Pinball is better when civil conversations happen. My opinion is just that. The more I hear those of you who like it, except Zach, the more I want to play it and let it change my mind. Crazier things have happened.

    Jason, don’t give into the dark side! Your original reasons are sound. Much better value games are coming!! You’ll regret it if you do!!

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