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Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:I have the Mantis ramps and love them. Haven’t broke one yet.
Agree. I'm pro Mantis.
Hopefully your flippers are temporary. Those are Bally or stern flippers. Need to get the WPC skinny flippers.
Quoted from paulbaptiste:Its come quite a ways since I started. Attached a pic of where we are today versus where I started two weeks ago.
Quoted from chuckwurt:Hopefully your flippers are temporary. Those are Bally or stern flippers. Need to get the WPC skinny flippers.
I got some new ones today to put in there when I'm ready.
Canberra
Powdercoat didn’t turn out as metallic as I would have liked but still a vast improvement from the very aged and worn chrome. Close to movie gun colour, if I had lighter pearl grips it would look better I think.
B1B6F63B-C611-41B0-A06A-2E008581C34F (resized).jpegDA12A987-F59F-4853-9D02-24BC13911174 (resized).jpegMy Shadow arrived yesterday. I’m now officially a member of the club! Great layout and game.
I haven’t been able to play it much so far but there are a few things I have questions about. One thing I notice is when the ball hits the magnet and is going to get pulled into The Sanctum, I hear a loud motor inside the cabinet activate until it is pulled inside. Is it normal for that motor to be that loud or does mine have an issue?
Also, one of the ring led lights is out. Does anyone know what type of led goes in there? I will need to order a replacement. Any advice or insight is appreciated.
6D2BD33E-8356-4E96-8788-F41A223AA946 (resized).jpegA49E9968-2435-4E91-9257-918A7DF6986A (resized).jpegQuoted from Utesichiban:My Shadow arrived yesterday. I’m now officially a member of the club! Great layout and game.
I haven’t been able to play it much so far but there are a few things I have questions about. One thing I notice is when the ball hits the magnet and is going to get pulled into The Sanctum, I hear a loud motor inside the cabinet activate until it is pulled inside. Is it normal for that motor to be that loud or does mine have an issue?
Also, one of the ring led lights is out. Does anyone know what type of led goes in there? I will need to order a replacement. Any advice or insight is appreciated.[quoted image][quoted image]
Ring bulb
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Quoted from Utesichiban:, I hear a loud motor inside the cabinet activate until it is pulled inside. Is it normal for that motor to be that loud or does mine have an issue?
No motor involved in that. Maybe the magnet is a bit loose and vibrating when energized? Should not really be much of a noise.
Quoted from RCA1:No motor involved in that. Maybe the magnet is a bit loose and vibrating when energized? Should not really be much of a noise.
Yeah, it is actually pretty loud and coming from inside the cabinet. Can the magnet cause that much noise just by being loose? It doesn't sound good. Could the coil issue that pops up be related (attached picture).
There are some issues that need to be worked out with this game inckuding the drop target switch in front of the battefield VUK. The ball keeps getting stuck on top of the drop target. Test menu does indicate a switch issue so hopefully that is the cause.
20210807_120918 (resized).jpg20210807_120924 (resized).jpgQuoted from Utesichiban:Yeah, it is actually pretty loud and coming from inside the cabinet. Can the magnet cause that much noise just by being loose? It doesn't sound good. Could the coil issue that pops up be related (attached picture).
There are some issues that need to be worked out with this game inckuding the drop target switch in front of the battefield VUK. The ball keeps getting stuck on top of the drop target. Test menu does indicate a switch issue so hopefully that is the cause.[quoted image][quoted image]
I had that problem when I first acquired mine. Wasn’t sure if it was normal. It’s not.
I replaced the magnet and core and haven’t had a problem since. You might get the same result by just removing and reinstalling to make sure all is snug.
Quoted from Utesichiban:Yeah, it is actually pretty loud and coming from inside the cabinet. Can the magnet cause that much noise just by being loose? It doesn't sound good. Could the coil issue that pops up be related (attached picture).
There are some issues that need to be worked out with this game inckuding the drop target switch in front of the battefield VUK. The ball keeps getting stuck on top of the drop target. Test menu does indicate a switch issue so hopefully that is the cause.[quoted image][quoted image]
Yes pretty common for Shadow's to have the magnet noise when throwing the ball into sanctum lock - as other's have suggested make sure it's installed nice & tight.
The battlefield drop target is same as the single drop target on your IJ, while the extended wall target to Sanctum lock is a different mech. The drop target issues are common - firstly there is an adjustment screw on the bottom of the mech (red arrow in the pic) that adjusts the height of the dropped target to be flush with the PF, this will stop the ball getting stuck there. There are a number of reasons why there is a switch issue, often the switch actuator arm (in the green circle) gets bent or is in the wrong position - it works by the tab on the back of the plastic target (blue arrow) activating the switch.
Drop target assembly2 (resized).jpgQuoted from Manny65:Yes pretty common for Shadow's to have the magnet noise when throwing the ball into sanctum lock - as other's have suggested make sure it's installed nice & tight.
The battlefield drop target is same as the single drop target on your IJ, while the extended wall target to Sanctum lock is a different mech. The drop target issues are common - firstly there is an adjustment screw on the bottom of the mech (red arrow in the pic) that adjusts the height of the dropped target to be flush with the PF, this will stop the ball getting stuck there. There are a number of reasons why there is a switch issue, often the switch actuator arm (in the green circle) gets bent or is in the wrong position - it works by the tab on the back of the plastic target (blue arrow) activating the switch.
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This is great information. Glad to know these issues are common and very fixable. I will tfy to get these things adjusted and report back tomorrow. Thank you!
Quoted from Gorgar666:My Drops are sticking, but all works well in test.any ideas?
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You could consider replacing your drop target springs. The ones that pull the drop target down when hit, they can be replaced with slightly tighter springs that pull the target fully down. I had the same problem and for me, the solution was trimming the bottom of the decals on the drop targets. The decal was causing friction and didn’t need to be so long, since only the top 2/3 or so are visible. Lots of people have these same decals, so they should work fine, but for whatever reason mine worked better after that adjustment.
Quoted from Gorgar666:My Drops are sticking, but all works well in test.any ideas?
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Take them all out and clean thoroughly and put them back in. Make sure the springs are good too.
Quoted from chuckwurt:Take them all out and clean thoroughly and put them back in. Make sure the springs are good too.
This, yes clean them. It makes a big difference. I also put a little bit of wax on them.
Quoted from Gorgar666:Ok great suggestions. Just strange because all 4 get stuck "randomly" at the same height.
Best way to diagnose and fix is to take the battlefield completely out of the game and work on it at the bench.
Quoted from Tortelvis:I had issues with my drops and the target decals. I couldn’t get them to stop hanging up with the decals. I had to take mine off.
I was wondering if the lip of the decal is stopping the drop…..gonna suck having to remove them. They look cool. Lol..well, if it has to done.
Quoted from Gorgar666:I was wondering if the lip of the decal is stopping the drop…..gonna suck having to remove them. They look cool. Lol..well, if it has to done.
Should do this instead. 
44C5D7EB-7229-45BB-98A8-46F79F274838 (resized).jpegQuoted from Gorgar666:Oh no…
I’m not kidding when I say this. It looks better than the decals. A lot better. Gasp!!
Quoted from chuckwurt:I’m not hiking when I say this. It looks better than the decals. A lot better. Gasp!!
I’m not a fan of the decals either, proportionally the detail is too small for the general design of the pin.
Quoted from Methos:Does anyone have an original translite and speaker panel that they would be willing to sell?
I’ve got an original translite I could sell, but no speaker panel. If anyone is interested in just the translite, pm me.
Quoted from Riefepeters:I’ve got an original translite I could sell, but no speaker panel. If anyone is interested in just the translite, pm me.
I have the original speaker panel, but no translite. We can bundle!
Quoted from Methos:Does anyone have an original translite and speaker panel that they would be willing to sell?
Thanks.
I have my set sitting around after upgrading. If you are still looking throw me an offer 
I think kicking them to the curb was a good thing. The art doesn’t seem to match the game or the movie.
Quoted from Utesichiban:Can anyone tell me what size led goes in the rings? One of mine is out and I need to order a replacement.
This bad boy: https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/24-8855
Wasn't playing my best game points-wise yesterday, but I managed to qualify Final Battle...
And f*ck me, my first attempt to make the mode hole shot and it ricochets off the post STDM, Ball 3 of course. I'm not a great player by any means and this would have been only my second time making it to Final Battle. Damn...
Quoted from FatPanda:Wasn't playing my best game points-wise yesterday, but I managed to qualify Final Battle...
And f*ck me, my first attempt to make the mode hole shot and it ricochets off the post STDM, Ball 3 of course. I'm not a great player by any means and this would have been only my second time making it to Final Battle. Damn...
You can start it on the side saucer right? If so, I’m glad mine allows you to hold up the upper flipper on left orbit shots and it puts it in the saucer.
Quoted from chuckwurt:You can start it on the side saucer right? If so, I’m glad mine allows you to hold up the upper flipper on left orbit shots and it puts it in the saucer.
I'm not sure. If the left saucer behaves like it normally would, when Kahn MB isn't available, then that would make sense.
Quoted from Flash71:Mines set up the same way. The best!!
If I hold the flipper up after hitting the left orbit the ball goes down the left outlane, so you quickly learn not to that on my machine. I don't mind having to make the shot to hit the Kahn saucer, as it's more challenging to get through all the modes
Quoted from Manny65:If I hold the flipper up after hitting the left orbit the ball goes down the left outlane, so you quickly learn not to that on my machine. I don't mind having to make the shot to hit the Kahn saucer, as it's more challenging to get through all the modes
Yeah. I don’t need more challenge. Haha
Quoted from chuckwurt:Yeah. I don’t need more challenge. Haha
The problem is ithere is ZERO challenge if you get the left saucer simply by holding up the upper flipper. Starting modes is the toughest shot in the game.
Making a left orbit isn't that hard and that's all you really need to know to make the center saucer with that setup.
You should be reaching Final Battle frequently if the upper flipper is a gimme. Would certainly make Super Jackpots less special too.
Quoted from RTS:The problem is ithere is ZERO challenge if you get the left saucer simply by holding up the upper flipper.
If I was getting to final battle every other game, then I would agree. But I’m not. So I like the way mine plays.
Quoted from Lmjdad:Would anyone happen to have an extra plastic for sale?
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I've got a few broken plastics on mine too, and sadly this is one of them. I'm going to pony up for a CPR set one of these days, in the mean time, check ebay. But my guess would be that this is a commonly broken piece.
Occasionally during MB, I'll get a ball into the battlefield, and it'll roll off but then get hung up on the plastics underneath. If I remember correctly, the plastics underneath aren't warped or anything. Does this happen commonly? Should I add a couple of extra washers to that clear plastic (to increase the pitch) so it rolls off easier? Usually during actual Battlefield, I'll just use the kicker arm to knock the ball back into play.
It doesn't happen often, but happens enough where it's annoying when you've got 2 balls in play, and one of them is hung up.
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