(Topic ID: 179730)

The restoration that doesn't make any sense.


By lordloss

2 years ago



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#1 2 years ago

I'm big into data east pins and always wanted a rocky and bullwinkle pinball machine. I saw some parts show up for one locally, so I asked about the cab and how much they wanted for it. $100 and a 15 minute drive landed me this cabinet. No parts besides the coin door and the magic hat assembly in the cabinet head.

I decided to start this thread because i've started buying parts for this cab.

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#2 2 years ago

Cabinet head is pretty solid, body is a bit rough. If you'll notice someone tried repainting the right side, but didn't really match anything well and didn't stay in the lines.

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#3 2 years ago

I wanted to use this cab as a way to practice cabinet work as well as stencil work.

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#4 2 years ago

I first started sanding the bottom of the cabinet to see how clean I could get that with some 80 grit sand paper.

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#5 2 years ago

The inside of the cabinet had a bit of water damage, but wasn't horrible.

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#6 2 years ago

I sanded it down and looks a bit better. At some point i'll need to replace the bottom to get the HEP nod of approval. The back is pretty ugle as well, but still pretty solid.

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#7 2 years ago

Since the cabinet didn't house a game and this was intended for practice, I started stripping the paint off the coin door to restore that as well. The door has a wife sheen that won't come off and I think its been spray painted in the last decade as well so there is two layers of paint.

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#8 2 years ago

If you'll notice, the coin door looks like a US door, but had 20F written on it. This game came from hungary so its the forint coin slot. I was able to open up the reject button and take out the foreign label and I can place a US one in there no problem.

#9 2 years ago

I tried stripping some of the paint off tonight, but I think the temp in the garage wasn't helping and I didn't get the paint remover I wanted. Home depot only had a few varieties, will go try something different tomorrow.

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#10 2 years ago

I think DE primed their doors with a brown primer. Its too even to be rust. (some of its rust for sure, but not this much)

#11 2 years ago

This game was unique because at some point, the Boris shooter button was damaged and someone made their own version of the button for the door.

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#12 2 years ago

On the back side there are three metal plates nailed to the cabinet to hold this thing in place.

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#13 2 years ago

Got two off moderately easy. I had to use a jig saw to cut through this wood/ button housing to get the wood partially out.

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#14 2 years ago

You can still see the blue paint on the bottom and a tiny bit on the left side. This is a good sign that I didn't cut too much off and the original owner didn't mess up the cab too bad.

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#15 2 years ago

At this point i'm trying to be careful. With the left side, a gentle twist made the wood come out, this other side would take the small remainder of the original cabinet with it.

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#16 2 years ago

Years ago I bought this NOS backglass from GAP. LTG was nice enough to bring it back from MGC for me.

I hope to get a speaker panel in place so I can set this back glass in the cabinet when its done. I think I might keep an eye out for PCB's for the head, with my time machine project I have a spare PBB board. That should be easy to make work with this machine. So i'll get that one refurbished and install that. Over time I should have the full set of boards ready for a wiring harness when that day comes.

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#17 2 years ago

I know there are decals available for this cab, but I really want to try and make a set of screens/stencils for this cab. The cab originally had a screened cab, thats how it should be restored.

I stared a test scan of the cabinet and I think it should be a bit easier to recreate the art as the colors are one tone for the most part and easy to separate.

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#18 2 years ago

Here's a picture of Penny. She likes to sniff all the new pins that come into the house, sometimes she'll watch me play.

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#19 2 years ago

This ought to be fun.

#20 2 years ago
Quoted from Travish:

This ought to be fun.

So far it is, its really teaching me a lot. Tonight was the first time i've use paint remover on metal, its also the first time I learned what mineral spirits are. Will be going back for that and a better paint remover to get this coin door stripped properly.

#21 2 years ago

I got that orange stripper that doesn't stink last time and it did pretty good. Not as good as the spray kind but not bad. Cheaper too.

#22 2 years ago

Get the stinky Jasco stuff. It really works.

#23 2 years ago

aerosol stripper needs 70 degrees at least...

#24 2 years ago

Woah, that cabinet is really gnarly.

Look forward to seeing what you can do with it; i'm in the midst of rebuilding mine as we speak and hoping to have it finished some time this year.

Good find on the NOS back glass. Mine has the usual damage and i've still not figured out a good plan to repair it.

#25 2 years ago

Based on the thread title I thought someone had sent a Big Top to HEP.

#26 2 years ago

Here is a good before and after pic, was able to get the rest of the wood out by sawing the attached wood in half several times and applying a bit of pressure

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#27 2 years ago

Next problem I need to tackle is how to get a replacement head hinge, or repair this one:

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#28 2 years ago

Started scanning the cabinet head:

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#29 2 years ago

one annoying thing about the scanner is that you have to watch the cord tension to make sure it doesn't shift when you are scanning.

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#30 2 years ago

Another problem is that in some areas of the scan there isn't enough reference points for the stitching software to work well. If you look at the top of the image, the top has a bit of a curve that isn't supposed to be there.

#31 2 years ago

One nice thing about the scanner is that it scans at 1200 dpi. You can see a lot of finer detail

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#32 2 years ago

Left side done

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#33 2 years ago

Wanted to set up pricing as this restore/monster goes on.

Cabinet/head:$100
NOS BG: $300
Repro WABAC Ramp/button housing: $155

Total: $555.00

#34 2 years ago

Got the sander out and tackled the top of the head.

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#35 2 years ago

Why do you guys use a sander to remove paint? Jasco stripper works with a lot less mess, that paint probably contains lead.

#36 2 years ago

Man you are brave for taking this on. Will be watching this

#37 2 years ago
Quoted from dasvis:

Why do you guys use a sander to remove paint? Jasco stripper works with a lot less mess, that paint probably contains lead.

For this particular pin, it has its fair share of rough spots on the wood and i'd be sanding anyway to help with the bondo. I also use a Festool sander, which has a hepa vacuum attached.

#38 2 years ago
Quoted from Bax1:

Man you are brave for taking this on. Will be watching this

I have high hopes for this project, good thing everyone hates data east. It makes the parts more readily available.

I wish CPR would do a run of the rocky playfields, that would make life easier for me.

#39 2 years ago

I like data east machines.
You are taking on a noble task.
This resto is for the love of the hobby and not for profit I am sure.

#40 2 years ago
Quoted from PinballAir:

I like data east machines.
You are taking on a noble task.
This resto is for the love of the hobby and not for profit I am sure.

I'm hoping this game ends under $3k, sometimes I feel like i'm more into the quest for parts and the fun of rebuilding than playing. Playing is fun, but can't beat the rush hearing a game start up for the first time that was supposedly a lost cause.

#41 2 years ago
Quoted from lordloss:

I'm hoping this game ends under $3k, sometimes I feel like i'm more into the quest for parts and the fun of rebuilding than playing. Playing is fun, but can't beat the rush hearing a game start up for the first time that was supposedly a lost cause.

Yup that's the best feeling when you restore a trashed pin & it comes to life.

#42 2 years ago

Lead paint was banned by the US in 1978. Sand away...

#43 2 years ago

I think that was for residential use...but I have Festool equipment as well, so I sand away...

#44 2 years ago
Quoted from Black_Knight:

Lead paint was banned by the US in 1978. Sand away...

Quoted from Jjsmooth:

I think that was for residential use...but I have Festool equipment as well, so I sand away...

You are both correct, technically it was banned, but not for industrial use.

I actually wish certain industries still used lead paint. The CPR backglasses arn't as durable with lead free paint.

Anyone any rocky parts they were looking to sell?

#45 2 years ago
Quoted from lordloss:

Here's a picture of Penny. She likes to sniff all the new pins that come into the house, sometimes she'll watch me play.

She a Wheaten Terrier?

#46 2 years ago
Quoted from Chisox:

She a Wheaten Terrier?

Hell yea she is, the breed is becoming a bit more common, but still not very well known. This is my second wheaten, Maggie passed away last January and penny we got last may. Couldn't ask for a better family dog, very smart and very fun personalities.

Here is penny in her July Ice pool

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#47 2 years ago

Here's my guy Iggy, he's like a celebrity because he's got such personality. Fantastic dogs. Good luck with your resto, I'll be following.

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#48 2 years ago
Quoted from lordloss:

I wish CPR would do a run of the rocky playfields, that would make life easier for me.

CPR have it on their boutique list at the moment. Nothing confirmed but they're gauging interest so if you're in the slightest bit interested then get yourself registered. The more people do so the more chance that they'll do a run.

I got tired of waiting and had my playfield repainted by someone a couple of hours away. Then had the whole thing cleared to protect it for the future. I've still registered anyway because I might consider a full playfield swap in the future.

#49 2 years ago
Quoted from lordloss:

I know there are decals available for this cab, but I really want to try and make a set of screens/stencils for this cab. The cab originally had a screened cab, thats how it should be restored.
I stared a test scan of the cabinet and I think it should be a bit easier to recreate the art as the colors are one tone for the most part and easy to separate.

How do you screen print on that large of an area of the cab? I am in the same boat on a LAH. Don't want to do decals but restore the original look of the print.

#50 2 years ago

Had a Pinsider PM with a PF/parts he had for sale, in the process of grabbing this from him. Can't wait to start working on this.

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