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Quoted from Mattyk:An economic recession will drop prices on pinball and other expensive hobbies tied to discretionary spending...Usually you get a recession every 7 years....
Hilarious; Been hoping this happens for over 14 years!
Quoted from wolverinetuner:As much as we complain about prices on pins we’d like to buy, there’s definitely the chance to get more for what we sell.
Except we only sell games to buy other games...so it really doesn't help.
Quoted from arcyallen:IHaving said that, their used HWN prices have tanked....I wonder if that will effect their initial pricing...probably not.
The effect is not raising it over 10k 
Sad but true...hopefully? I mean I ain't going down that road again. The shit show ordering process was enough to scare me away and that's before the thing tanked 25%
Quoted from MtnFrost:I think you can make a machine, using the tech today to create a 80s style game, with the kind of design and lack of toys you had back then, for a much lower price point.
Beatles = not cheap
TNA = not cheap
For the 9,000th time; makers are having no problem selling games for 10k' why would they make games at 4k?
Spooky just had no issue selling out Halloween & Ultraman in 1 day; he vast majority of those were the highest price option, and a chunk of those added 1k on for a clearcoated cabinet. Oh and they plummeted in value day q and have never gained it back....and everyone is lacking their chops for a new machine.
Don't know why this so hard to grasp that a lower pin price is not an issue
Quoted from MtnFrost:No, but close. No licensed themes (save the money, it's not needed), keep the quality materials (metal lockdown bar, cabs as solid as in the 70s-80s). No DMD. A strong playfield design, good playing pin with great artwork, light show and sound....
So this is basically what TNA is. The newest run, which of course needed no design time as it was already done; was I think 9k. How much was the OG run years ago...5 or 6?
How much of that you want to tack on for a TV screen, which are at an all time low, you can fiddle around with. odin just showed me a set of X-pin Alpha displays which were like $250 ish for the 5 you would need...even at cost I don't know if that's cheaper than a small Monitor. SO the net savings probably isn't that much...not a grand+ anyway.
Quoted from dboeren:...If you charge too much for too little people are going to go elsewhere - I mean we DO have decades of pinballs that still play well out there as alternatives...
1. Most people are looking for NIB these days anyway; look at their collections
2. Those old games cost as much or more than a NIB Stern pro.
Quoted from dpadam450:...I thought it was very out of touch for Gomez at Stern to state that you have to have an established IP in the interview below, yet we are seeing so many remakes of themes that were strictly pinball themes and some of those originally sold 6,000 machines at release.
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Oh lord.
Quoted from dpadam450:....but is Chicago gaming not selling that well? Seems like Cactus Canyon is doing alright. I see that game and Medieval Madness popup all the time. I just guess I don't understand the claim that Pinball only IP's don't sell....
Those are famous IPs, obviously. Pinball IPs.
BKSOR & DI are the original themes and both undersold and DI is worth thousands less then released.
BKSOR has gone up a bit
Quoted from fosaisu:...They’re undeniably great games to play, but they sell well because people love their (licensed) themes, same as Star Wars or Jurassic Park.
SW is a perfect point becasue so many people were crying in their dream journals when that thing came out; yet it's huge now
Quoted from dpadam450:I didn't ask that of them. I merely said that an unlicensed game at a good price, could sell.
Maybe; but a licensed game, good or not for much more, has a much better chance of selling.
Quoted from TheLaw:Beatles = not cheap
TNA = not cheap
For the 9,000th time; makers are having no problem selling games for 10k' why would they make games at 4k?
Quoted from TheLaw:Spooky just had no issue selling out Halloween & Ultraman in 1 day; he vast majority of those were the highest price option, and a chunk of those added 1k on for a clearcoated cabinet. Oh and they plummeted in value day q and have never gained it back....and everyone is lacking their chops for a new machine.
Don't know why this so hard to grasp that a lower pin price is not an issue
Quoted from ReadyPO:... no IP to pay for, same rules and playfield, with Elwin the designer, sell more than 500 @ $20K (say $8500K so would have to sell at least 1,176)?
And the reverse, same pin Bond theme and same art and it's Stern's new designer, Jack Danger. Does that sell 500 @ $20K?
Huh...tuffy. Elwin easy would sell lore than Danger.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:Kid rock pricing update.
May the “he charged $25 for terrible tickets once 15 years ago as a gimmick so stern should sell games for $3500” argument die forever.
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And I thought $75 Sisters Of Mercy time were a little high 
Quoted from CrazyLevi:These guys probably sell 9 records a year, touring’s their only source of income
I mean, I’d guess they all have jobs also.
They haven't been a fucking band in 39 years....ahhhh....reunion prices. Smart.
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