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I am going to continue to enjoy great content by @zmeny, and also great content by @deadflip, and leave drama for those two to work out. They both do great work for the community, both love pinball, and I am sure they can figure it out. No need to get sucked into it or pick a team.
ZMeny and
Hollywoodbone what are the chances we might be able get another face-off video one of these days on SDTM?
The Houdini one was great. A JP battle would be awesome. 
Quoted from DennisK:I thought there were 50 posts about puppets, not SDTM stuff (which isn't a part of TPN anyway). Imagine my disappointment when I finally come in here and read everything.
Sorry Dennis, I didn't realize this wasn't the SDTM thread for a second. I guess you know what they say, this isn't Kansas anymore.
Quoted from Hollywoodbone:I also believe SDTM won two TWIPYs in their respective media. So I’d say say Zach is right on coarse.
Are you not also a distributor? Not certain why your not advertising on JD stream? Are you upset with Zach because he sells pins as well? Is that where this bitterness is coming from? Are you trying to gain a competitive edge by degrading the competition?
Don’t engage the doctor or we’ll get 10 more posts with 15 paragraphs of word salad each.
Quoted from ZMeny:Still waiting on a definition that makes actual sense besides “that’s the way it’s always been described”. Based on the TPN Discord, sounds like the term isn’t agreed upon by anyone
Quoted from Anim8ormatt:A fan layout is a game with only 2 flippers and goals laid out in an arc at the top of the table. While every pinball game by its nature has a basic fan layout. Many break the pattern by including secondary sets of flippers to break up the shot mix.
2 prime examples of each type are medieval madness for fan layouts, and twilight zone for non fan layouts. Medieval madness has a great mix of loops and orbits to keep the game moving and interesting, while twilight zone has many technical shots and cross field targets to engage the player in addition to the main flippers "fan" layout targets.
Hope that helps clarify the distinction.
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