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*NEW* TPN: The Pinball Show Ep 40: Get It Off Your Chest w/Greg Bone


By ZMeny

10 months ago



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    #1901 28 days ago

    The Pinball Show Episode 36: Pinball Is A Fickle, Feather-Ruffling Beast

    Hosts: Dennis Kriesel & Zach Meny

    - You've Been....ClusterVukked!

    - Tattoo Contest Updates

    - Willy Wonka Slow-Mo Instant Replay

    - Spooky Pinball's Charlie Talks Clearcoat

    - Dram-Com Roger Sharpe Film Announced

    - GNR Production Updates

    - New Jurassic Park Code Update

    - Celts LIVE Stream

    - Haggis Lockdown Bar Porn

    - Dr. John Interviews Haggis Pinball Owner & Creator Damian Hartin

    - Pinball Market Trends™️

    - Deal Of The Week

    - Deal Of The WTF?!

    - TPN This Week

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    facebook: facebook.com/thepinballnetwork
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    review: thisweekinpinball.com/the-pinball-show/

    https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-6wdrd-f10e53

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    #1903 28 days ago
    Quoted from pin2d:

    (and Dennis’s...Dennis'...Dennises's?)

    Depends on the style guide (though I think the last version is never right!).

    Chicago Manual of Style says add the 's to any proper name ending in -s (so Dennis's).

    Associated Press Style Book says just add the ' to any proper name ending in -s (so Dennis').

    I typically do Chicago style nowadays but I can't even claim to be consistent. Historically I did AP style since that was what I was most familiar with.

    #1904 28 days ago
    Quoted from pin2d:

    Hey Zach! Man you love the drama on your Network, ugh. I usually ignore any little public jabs at TWIP on your flagship podcast, but last week I literally sent you a Facebook message and two text messages to let you know I missed the GNR stream because I had to do TWIP early (on Friday) and I didn’t see it until too late (Sunday night) and let you know that it would be included on today’s TWIP. Then you say on your podcast today that I was not covering it on TWIP at all, which you knew was a blatant lie from the messages I sent you.
    I do agree with a lot of your other comments (and Dennis’s...Dennis'...Dennises's?) during that segment btw.
    Now I’ll go back to not rising or responding to the public baiting from you…always here to chat privately to try to work things out or bury whatever hatchet there is, you know how to reach me! You make a lot of great content for pinball. Attacks and drama and bullying in an attempt to be "polarizing" isn't needed to get more listens/views IMO. Eventually someone has to say something, and this was a good example to speak out on since it was so ridiculous. This hobby should be LESS divisive and MORE inclusive!!
    If you “don’t rely on TWIP for anything” as you said, then feel free to stop talking about TWIP on your podcast
    - Jeff

    What in the world?! Haha Not sure what got you fired up here. We were speaking about podcasters suggesting that everyone relies on TWIP for their content. It was a blanket statement we hear and don’t agree with. We gave people tips on how to create their own outlines and not fall into the trap of reporting on a single source. I think everyone would agree on that. All news organizations miss stuff, no biggie. Wasn’t trying to bait you into anything. Hell, I reminded people of Silverball Swag and I personally agreed with Dennis about citing you and I said you deserve the credit because you do a lot of work for the industry. I never asked you to report on my affiliated content. No drama here I don’t think. Is there something else going on that I’m missing?

    Time stamp 55:49 on The Pinball Show Ep 36 for anyone interested.

    #1905 27 days ago
    Quoted from ZMeny:

    What in the world?! Haha Not sure what got you fired up here. We were speaking about podcasters suggesting that everyone relies on TWIP for their content. It was a blanket statement we hear and don’t agree with. We gave people tips on how to create their own outlines and not fall into the trap of reporting on a single source. I think everyone would agree on that. All news organizations miss stuff, no biggie. Wasn’t trying to bait you into anything. Hell, I reminded people of Silverball Swag and I personally agreed with Dennis about citing you and I said you deserve the credit because you do a lot of work for the industry. I never asked you to report on my affiliated content. No drama here I don’t think. Is there something else going on that I’m missing?
    Time stamp 55:49 on The Pinball Show Ep 36 for anyone interested.

    Hehe, when I listened to last weeks episode when you said something like (son't nail me on the phrasing) "here's something you don't get on TWIP" that actually was a bit snarky, but imho in a good (competitive - here's something that makes us not just going over TWIP news) way.

    I love you both. And Jack also. Don't get what you're arguing about.

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    #1906 25 days ago

    Final Round Pinball Podcast Episode 20: The Boys Are Back!

    Hosts: Martin Robbins & Jeff Teolis
    Special Guest: Ryan C.

    - Dad Of The Year

    - The Review Of All Reviews

    - Celts First Hand Experience

    - A Head2Head Classic Game Returns

    - The Newest & Best Awards In Pinball

    - Best Boat In Pinball?

    - Sponsor Of The Week

    - 24 Hours Of Playing...Can You Do It?

    - Australia Pinfest

    - PinClash

    - Pinball Video Love

    - Fan Mail

    Listen Here: www.thepinballnetwork.net
    Final Round Pinball Podcast: http://feeds.feedburner.com/FinalThePinballNetwork
    Email: finalroundpinball@gmail.com
    Instagram: @finalroundpinballpodcast
    Twitter: @finalroundpin

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    #1907 24 days ago

    Just Another Pinball Podcast Ep 15: Rick & Morty, GNR, & Stranger Things Reviews

    Host: Joel Engelberth

    In this episode, I share my initial thoughts about R&M and GNR after playing them, as well as a very in-depth review of having Stranger Things for the last few months. Enjoy!

    email: justanotherpinball@gmail.com
    stream: twitch.tv/justanotherpinball
    https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-dhv8k-f182be

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    #1908 22 days ago

    So little time, so many podcasts to listen to.

    #1909 21 days ago

    The Pinball Show Episode 37: Did Stern Pinball Secretly Release Their Next Machine?!

    Hosts: Dennis Kriesel & Zach Meny

    - The Loss Of Two Fellow Enthusiasts

    - New President-Elect...New Jokes?

    - Mr. Fox Comes To Town

    - Jack Guarnieri Comments Regarding Designer Eric Meunier's Work On Guns N Roses & His Next Design

    - New Stern Title Already Released?

    - TMNT Topper Shipping & Community Impressions

    - Art On Steve Ritchie Machines

    - Stern Pinball Code Updates

    - Pinball Market Trends™️

    - Deal Of The Week

    - Deal Of The WTF?!

    - Berry Market Trends

    - IKEA Meatballs

    - Segment: Next Gen Console Launch

    - Zach Claims That Pinball Is More A Sport Than E-Sports Ever Will Be

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    facebook: facebook.com/thepinballnetwork
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    twitter: @therealTPN
    review: thisweekinpinball.com/the-pinball-show/

    https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-ksv5m-f1b305

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    #1910 20 days ago

    G'day Zach , I was so happy to hear you pay tribute to Terry .
    When I first " met " Who-Dey on the SDTM thread , I got a temporary thread eject for arguing with him .
    As time went by , he became my best friend on pinside .
    When you gave a few seconds of silence to honour him , it gave me more than a few tears to my eyes .

    #1911 20 days ago
    Quoted from ZMeny:

    Just Another Pinball Podcast Ep 15: Rick & Morty, GNR, & Stranger Things Reviews
    Host: Joel Engelberth
    In this episode, I share my initial thoughts about R&M and GNR after playing them, as well as a very in-depth review of having Stranger Things for the last few months. Enjoy!
    email: justanotherpinball@gmail.com
    stream: twitch.tv/justanotherpinball
    https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-dhv8k-f182be
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    Finally got around to listen to this, early this morning. Good stuff. I like the "sobriety". Your podcast was friendly to my ears.

    #1912 20 days ago
    Quoted from mtn-:

    Finally got around to listen to this, early this morning. Good stuff. I like the "sobriety". Your podcast was friendly to my ears.

    Thank you for the kind words. I'm glad you enjoyed it!

    #1913 19 days ago

    #topperflex

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    #1914 19 days ago
    Quoted from Coz:

    #topperflex
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    Someone with that body would have dag up his garden to have a non-above-ground pool.

    #1915 19 days ago
    Quoted from Coz:

    #topperflex
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    Quoted from DS_Nadine:

    Someone with that body would have dag up his garden to have a non-above-ground pool.

    Hahahahaha

    #1916 19 days ago

    You know I love u and I woul've dug the hole for you if I'd be on the same f*****g CONTINENT.

    (But srsly my father was in "civil engineering" (I dunno if that is the correct translation) and owned his own excavators, so... .)

    #1917 19 days ago
    Quoted from DS_Nadine:

    You know I love u and I woul've dug the hole for you if I'd be on the same f*****g CONTINENT.
    (But srsly my father was in "civil engineering" (I dunno if that is the correct translation) and owned his own excavators, so... .)

    Yeah that would have helped

    #1918 19 days ago

    Dennis involuntarily flexing while discussing (IFWD) Gottlieb’s history and his love of Italian bottoms.

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    #1919 18 days ago

    On the topic of toppers, Stern has apparently decided that toppers are like LEs, or even SLEs for a hit game. They introduce artificial scarcity by only producing a small number of each that doesn't come close to satisfying the potentially addressable market.

    This affords them several advantages (from their perspective):

    1. They can plan for a batch of 500 or whatever the number is going to be, order all the parts, get them made and be done with it. No making a batch, evaluating actual demand, making another batch, potentially sitting on or god forbid having to clear out excess inventory at a reduced margin, etc.
    2. They can skim the cream from the top of the topper market with pricing that is obviously ridiculous in terms of the BOM.

    By making the toppers rare and expensive they maximize their profit/effort ratio. But by only addressing the high end of the market, you have to question whether what they are doing is actually good for their overall market and pinball in general. I can't imagine that intentionally disenfranchising the majority of their customers for a particular game with each "limited" topper release is buying them much goodwill in their customer base. And the raw greed of it is unsightly at best. So you end up with a majority of their customers that just tune out toppers that otherwise might bought some because of the hassle and pricing, or develop strong negative feelings towards them and those who promote them (*ahem* Zach).

    You may argue that nobody needs to buy a topper, but the exact same thing can be said for anything in pinball, including the pinball machine.

    My opinion is that Stern would be better off in the long term by making the toppers accessible to a majority of their customers (manufacture to meet demand, priced "reasonably", whatever that means in pinball). It's fine to occasionally offer something that is very exclusive so long as there are plenty of regular toppers that are not.

    #1920 18 days ago
    Quoted from Fytr:

    On the topic of toppers, Stern has apparently decided that toppers are like LEs, or even SLEs for a hit game. They introduce artificial scarcity by only producing a small number of each that doesn't come close to satisfying the potentially addressable market.
    This affords them several advantages (from their perspective):
    1. They can plan for a batch of 500 or whatever the number is going to be, order all the parts, get them made and be done with it. No making a batch, evaluating actual demand, making another batch, potentially sitting on or god forbid having to clear out excess inventory at a reduced margin, etc.
    2. They can skim the cream from the top of the topper market with pricing that is obviously ridiculous in terms of the BOM.
    By making the toppers rare and expensive they maximize their profit/effort ratio. But by only addressing the high end of the market, you have to question whether what they are doing is actually good for their overall market and pinball in general. I can't imagine that intentionally disenfranchising the majority of their customers for a particular game with each "limited" topper release is buying them much goodwill in their customer base. And the raw greed of it is unsightly at best. So you end up with a majority of their customers that just tune out toppers that otherwise might bought some because of the hassle and pricing, or develop strong negative feelings towards them and those who promote them (*ahem* Zach).
    You may argue that nobody needs to buy a topper, but the exact same thing can be said for anything in pinball, including the pinball machine.
    My opinion is that Stern would be better off in the long term by making the toppers accessible to a majority of their customers (manufacture to meet demand, priced "reasonably", whatever that means in pinball). It's fine to occasionally offer something that is very exclusive so long as there are plenty of regular toppers that are not.

    But what if they made 1000 and only sold 500? I see no problem with their topper ideas, and apparently it's working. I did buy a ehoh topper, was hoping for a bit more from it, but that's the way it goes sometimes. Just my opinion

    #1921 18 days ago

    The Pinball Show Midweek Episode 17: Welcome Back - Now Keep Waiting!

    Host: Craig Bobbie

    Craig speaks to the ongoing excitement and worry regarding pinball production and releases.

    email: thepinballnetwork@gmail.com
    website: thepinballnetwork.net
    facebook: facebook.com/thepinballnetwork
    twitch: twitch.tv/pinballnetwork
    instagram: @thepinballnetwork
    twitter: @therealTPN

    https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-m9rm8-f213d4

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    #1922 17 days ago

    Jessy Jay's Pinball Adventures Episode 10: Joseph Rubenstein: Trending Down

    Hosts: Jessy J & Ryan C

    - Ryan vs Paperflock
    - The Great GNR Debate
    - Return Of The BOMP
    - Jessy Wins Shit Theme...again
    - Dr. Ryan Diagnoses Jessy's Pinball Needs
    - Secret Service and Demolition Man
    - Jessy Is A Lightshow Hypocrite

    email: jessyjaypinball@gmail.com
    website: thepinballnetwork.net

    https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-mysu2-f2222b

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    #1923 17 days ago
    Quoted from ZMeny:

    The Pinball Show Episode 37: Did Stern Pinball Secretly Release Their Next Machine?!
    Hosts: Dennis Kriesel & Zach Meny
    - Segment: Next Gen Console Launch

    Okay, finally got to the end of this one.

    You can learn a lot about Zach by listening to his braggadocious take on the video game industry. Having no relevant recent knowledge or experience to pull from doesn't stop him from making "strong take" statements like Nintendo should sell their games on competitors systems, and the Xbox Series S is pointless, etc.

    I realize that making bold inaccurate statements is in style in 2020, and frankly I wish Dennis has taken the bait and shut him down hard, but I guess his strength was dwindling by that point. And yes, Tony knows about 1000x more about video games than you do Zach. It's true.

    Re: Nintendo

    New York (CNN Business)Shiny new video game consoles from PlayStation and Xbox are flying off the shelves this week. But their competition, Nintendo, wants gamers to know it still has the best-selling video game console.
    In the United States, Nintendo sold more than 735,000 Switch and Switch Lite consoles in October, the company confirmed Thursday, citing numbers from NPD Group. That's up 136% compared to the same month last year, and the second highest October sales for any gaming console besides the Nintendo Wii, which sold 807,000 units in 2008.

    Those numbers are just a slice of the success Nintendo has enjoyed, especially during an ongoing pandemic where many people are staying home in an abundance of caution. The Nintendo Switch has now sold more than 63 million systems worldwide and has been the best-selling game console -- beating the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One -- for 23 consecutive months.

    The Switch has handily outsold the Microsoft Xbox One consoles, maybe Microsoft should stop selling hardware and just make Forza and Halo for the Switch and PS5? ...all the real gamerz will buy the PS5 anyway, it's the top spec kit.

    Re: Xbox Series S

    The fact is the low cost Series S + Xbox Game Pass package represents the best value per gaming $ available in new gen consoles and will appeal to the mass market that just want to play games and don't need to "flex". Think of it as the "above ground pool" of the new consoles.

    Finally, the new PS 5 DualSense controllers are getting rave review for bringing truly innovative haptic feedback to console gaming.

    I know all this and I'm not even a gamer - I have to spend all my free time doing playfield swaps on my NiB Sterns...

    #1924 17 days ago
    Quoted from Fytr:

    Okay, finally got to the end of this one.
    You can learn a lot about Zach by listening to his braggadocious take on the video game industry. Having no relevant recent knowledge or experience to pull from doesn't stop him from making "strong take" statements like Nintendo should sell their games on competitors systems, and the Xbox Series S is pointless, etc.
    I realize that making bold inaccurate statements is in style in 2020, and frankly I wish Dennis has taken the bait and shut him down hard, but I guess his strength was dwindling by that point. And yes, Tony knows about 1000x more about video games than you do Zach. It's true.
    Re: Nintendo

    The Switch has handily outsold the Microsoft Xbox One consoles, maybe Microsoft should stop selling hardware and just make Forza and Halo for the Switch and PS5? ...all the real gamerz will buy the PS5 anyway, it's the top spec kit.
    Re: Xbox Series S
    The fact is the low cost Series S + Xbox Game Pass package represents the best value per gaming $ available in new gen consoles and will appeal to the mass market that just want to play games and don't need to "flex". Think of it as the "above ground pool" of the new consoles.
    Finally, the new PS 5 DualSense controllers are getting rave review for bringing truly innovative haptic feedback to console gaming.
    I know all this and I'm not even a gamer - I have to spend all my free time doing playfield swaps on my NiB Sterns...

    I like your style and yes I hope Tony knows more about video games than me. It would be sad if he didn’t because then I would have him on video game knowledge AND pinball And your case for PS5 being the superior spec console over Xbox Series X is laughable and shows your Sony fanboyism. Poor PS5 this time around is getting hammered in reviews compared to the new X. But yes, the new vibrating controller is cool Sony, nicely done. Maybe they can hire someone to redesign it to get closer to the superior ergonomics of the Xbox controller.

    #1925 17 days ago

    The specs stuff is a bit complicated. They are practically identical for all intents and purposes, but the Xbox does have, mathematically, 18% more power than the PS5 (https://www.polygon.com/reviews/21562630/ps5-vs-xbox-series-x-which-should-you-buy-comparison-better-worse-game-pass).

    Load time tests are suggesting Xbox is outperforming PS5 (https://www.denofgeek.com/games/xbox-series-x-load-times-faster-ps5-launch-games/) which is somewhat notable given early on there was some theorycrafting that Sony's SSD system would help make up the difference versus Xbox having slightly more power, but it doesn't seem to bear out (note these load times are all REALLY close together).

    I would agree the PS5 controller is more technologically advanced (innovative) than what Xbox is selling. For me, the issue I have is more fundamental... the symmetrical analog sticks. I feel they are just inferior to the asymmetrical layout Microsoft pioneered and many others now take advantage of. But that's a YMMV thing. I doubt we'll ever see a significant redesign from Sony on that.

    Quoted from Fytr:

    Okay, finally got to the end of this one.
    You can learn a lot about Zach by listening to his braggadocious take on the video game industry. Having no relevant recent knowledge or experience to pull from doesn't stop him from making "strong take" statements like Nintendo should sell their games on competitors systems, and the Xbox Series S is pointless, etc.
    I realize that making bold inaccurate statements is in style in 2020, and frankly I wish Dennis has taken the bait and shut him down hard, but I guess his strength was dwindling by that point. And yes, Tony knows about 1000x more about video games than you do Zach. It's true.

    Zach and I have discussed this several times. What he describes as "weaving gold" and I describe as... something else. He thinks people like it, I think people don't, and the reality is it will depend on the person.

    My lack of push-back was a combination of fatigue and that we're on something called The Pinball Show and so I wasn't inclined to drag out a video game dicussion (I co-host a much less popular podcast that tackles both pinball and video games for those that like that sort of thing).

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    #1926 17 days ago
    Quoted from DennisK:

    The specs stuff is a bit complicated. They are practically identical for all intents and purposes, but the Xbox does have, mathematically, 18% more power than the PS5 (https://www.polygon.com/reviews/21562630/ps5-vs-xbox-series-x-which-should-you-buy-comparison-better-worse-game-pass).
    Load time tests are suggesting Xbox is outperforming PS5 (https://www.denofgeek.com/games/xbox-series-x-load-times-faster-ps5-launch-games/) which is somewhat notable given early on there was some theorycrafting that Sony's SSD system would help make up the difference versus Xbox having slightly more power, but it doesn't seem to bear out (note these load times are all REALLY close together).
    I would agree the PS5 controller is more technologically advanced (innovative) than what Xbox is selling. For me, the issue I have is more fundamental... the symmetrical analog sticks. I feel they are just inferior to the asymmetrical layout Microsoft pioneered and many others now take advantage of. But that's a YMMV thing. I doubt we'll ever see a significant redesign from Sony on that.

    Zach and I have discussed this several times. What he describes as "weaving gold" and I describe as... something else. He thinks people like it, I think people don't, and the reality is it will depend on the person.
    My lack of push-back was a combination of fatigue and that we're on something called The Pinball Show and so I wasn't inclined to drag out a video game dicussion (I co-host a much less popular podcast that tackles both pinball and video games for those that like that sort of thing).

    I appreciate the response. I do often listen to Eclectic Gamers. I was using the segment as a standout example of Zach just talking smack on a subject right out the bottom of his ass (as he often does), and doing so with misplaced confidence. I can only assume it was meant to be entertaining, probably trying to get you to react, etc.

    In any case, it was annoying as fuck. If you know you don't know about something, then act like it Zach! A little humility goes a long way these days.

    Anyway, keep up the work, maybe it will get better...

    #1927 17 days ago
    Quoted from Fytr:

    I appreciate the response. I do often listen to Eclectic Gamers. I was using the segment as a standout example of Zach just talking smack on a subject right out the bottom of his ass (as he often does), and doing so with misplaced confidence. I can only assume it was meant to be entertaining, probably trying to get you to react, etc.
    In any case, it was annoying as fuck. If you know you don't know about something, then act like it Zach! A little humility goes a long way these days.
    Anyway, keep up the work, maybe it will get better...

    What did I say to show ignorance? I was merely asking Dennis why Nintendo doesn’t do that and he informed me. I thought it was an interesting conversation given that he knows a lot of video game stuff and I do not. I feel like I show an abundance of humility and is a characteristic that’s important to me as well.

    #1928 17 days ago
    Quoted from Fytr:

    I was using the segment as a standout example of Zach just talking smack on a subject right out the bottom of his ass (as he often does), and doing so with misplaced confidence. I can only assume it was meant to be entertaining, probably trying to get you to react, etc.

    Oh probably.

    #1929 17 days ago
    Quoted from ZMeny:

    What did I say to show ignorance? .

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    #1930 16 days ago
    Quoted from Fytr:

    The fact is the low cost Series S + Xbox Game Pass package represents the best value per gaming $ available

    Sony is going to have to answer to Gamepass with something very similar (which is to say, NOT PS+) or risk losing a whole generation of gamers. Once you have tried gamepass, there is no going back. It's the strongest arrow in Microsoft's quiver. I say this as a clear-eyed fan of Sony for decades.

    #1931 15 days ago
    Quoted from ZMeny:

    The Pinball Show Midweek Episode 17: Welcome Back - Now Keep Waiting!
    Host: Craig Bobbie
    Craig speaks to the ongoing excitement and worry regarding pinball production and releases.
    email: thepinballnetwork@gmail.com
    website: thepinballnetwork.net
    facebook: facebook.com/thepinballnetwork
    twitch: twitch.tv/pinballnetwork
    instagram: @thepinballnetwork
    twitter: @therealTPN
    https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-m9rm8-f213d4
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    Just like to thank you Craig for taking a realistic stand on these ongoing playfield issues. Your reaction as a relatively new NIB purchaser, as well as those of Mrs. Pin on the recent Slam Tilt! episode, I think accurately reflect those of actual new-to-pinball buyers. Even as a used pinball collector (well-used 80's and 90's games) for over 20 years, I remember how gutted I was when I made my first NIB Stern purchase in 2016 only to have the CC start chipping in < 100 games. I actually was so pissed I sold it and bought a friends minty HUO 2013 model which had far superior shiny thick clear-coat.

    While old-hands in the business or hobby might be more tolerant of a few "purely cosmetic" faults, the reality is that the market growth in pinball are mostly new home buyers, and they perceive (rightfully) that if they spend $9500 on a luxury toy for their home, that it should arrive in perfect condition and remain so for possibly as long as they own it, given relatively light use in a home basement.

    The large manufacturers, meanwhile, have been taking advantage of selling into this new premium market at premium prices while still relying on product QA and a customer support network from the mostly by-gone commercial era. Different standards apply, they need to accept that people expect PERFECT playfields. Make it happen.

    #1932 14 days ago

    The Pinball Show Episode 38: Dennis Is Angry At Elton John & Zach Is Angry At Walmart

    Hosts: Dennis Kriesel & Zach Meny

    - Zach Sells One Of His Stern LEs (gasp)

    - Dennis Will Record A Christmas Album For 10k Before Christmas

    - Stern Pinball Gets Into Dave & Buster's With A Prototype Display System

    - New Deadpool Code Update

    - Local News Does A Story On The GNR Sizzle Production Company

    - Pinside Reports 4000 Hobbits Were Produced

    - New Topper Company Announced: Elite Pinball Toppers

    - Hot Wheels Giveaway And Legends Tour Virtual Car Show

    - Is TPF 2021 Happening?

    - Dennis Is Angry At Elton John And Hates The Indiana Jones Pinball Machine

    - Pinball Market Trends ™️

    - Deal Of The Week

    - Deal Of The WTF?!

    - Flip N Out Pinball Updated Inventory

    - TPN This Week

    email: thepinballnetwork@gmail.com
    website: thepinballnetwork.net
    facebook: facebook.com/thepinballnetwork
    twitch: twitch.tv/pinballnetwork
    youtube: youtube.com/thepinballnetwork
    instagram: @thepinballnetwork
    twitter: @therealTPN
    review: thisweekinpinball.com/the-pinball-show/

    https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-i9smb-f259e3

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    #1933 13 days ago

    Zach you have to fight for your right to sing. Sing loud. Sing often. The Pinball Show without singing is Sally Jesse Raphael. We want Oprah.

    #1934 13 days ago

    Good news. After your podcast they lowered the cost of the Medieval Madness. To $15,000.

    #1935 13 days ago
    Quoted from ZMeny:

    The Pinball Show Episode 38: Dennis Is Angry At Elton John & Zach Is Angry At Walmart
    Hosts: Dennis Kriesel & Zach Meny
    - Zach Sells One Of His Stern LEs (gasp)
    - Dennis Will Record A Christmas Album For 10k Before Christmas
    - Stern Pinball Gets Into Dave & Buster's With A Prototype Display System
    - New Deadpool Code Update
    - Local News Does A Story On The GNR Sizzle Production Company
    - Pinside Reports 4000 Hobbits Were Produced
    - New Topper Company Announced: Elite Pinball Toppers
    - Hot Wheels Giveaway And Legends Tour Virtual Car Show
    - Is TPF 2021 Happening?
    - Dennis Is Angry At Elton John And Hates The Indiana Jones Pinball Machine
    - Pinball Market Trends ™️
    - Deal Of The Week
    - Deal Of The WTF?!
    - Flip N Out Pinball Updated Inventory
    - TPN This Week
    email: thepinballnetwork@gmail.com
    website: thepinballnetwork.net
    facebook: facebook.com/thepinballnetwork
    twitch: twitch.tv/pinballnetwork
    youtube: youtube.com/thepinballnetwork
    instagram: @thepinballnetwork
    twitter: @therealTPN
    review: thisweekinpinball.com/the-pinball-show/
    https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-i9smb-f259e3
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    Zach. You say some crazy things, but this episode.... why are you talking down on dmd sterns? How snooty. I'd argue there are many better dmd sterns than non dmd. Twd, metallica, lotr, star trek, acdc, tspp to just name a few. Like, come down from your tower and try not to be so pompus all the time.

    #1936 13 days ago
    Quoted from jorant:

    Zach. You say some crazy things, but this episode.... why are you talking down on dmd sterns? How snooty. I'd argue there are many better dmd sterns than non dmd. Twd, metallica, lotr, star trek, acdc, tspp to just name a few. Like, come down from your tower and try not to be so pompus all the time.

    Sigh...my apologies for not being as sarcastic as I thought I was being. It was merely a funny angle to take to fill Dennis’ erroneous allegations of my LE/topper flexing. I love Stern DMDs just like anything else. My favorite Stern is probably TWD Pro, PRO! No snoot or pomp here. But, it better have a ColorDMD!

    #1937 12 days ago

    Silverball Chronicles with David and Ron

    Episode 9: Borgie - Living The 90s License Dream

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    John Borg or as he’s affectionately known as ‘Borgie’, entered the industry as a mechanical engineer building ramps and ended up being a designer on some of the fondest remember nostalgia pins of the 1990’s.

    Join Ron and Dave as they chat about Borgie got to hang out with movie stars, review some cool mechs, discuss Bill Paxton and Bill Pullman, designers getting scripts to some of the biggest 90’s blockbusters in advance of the film, chat about a cougar attack (like the animal) and watch as the industry flamed out.

    Sources: List provided at thepinballnetwork.net

    https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-g2693-f28370

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    #1938 11 days ago

    Final Round Pinball Podcast Episode 21 - FinalRoundFlix

    Martin & Jeff are back with special guest Escher Lefkoff

    - Escher's rise to the top of the world rankings
    - sponsor of the week
    - playing new 2020 machines
    - Most Underrated Battle Royale final is sel
    - and more!

    listen here: www.thepinballnetwork.net
    Final Round Pinball Podcast: http://feeds.feedburner.com/FinalThePinballNetwork
    email us at finalroundpinball@gmail.com
    Instagram @finalroundpinballpodcast
    Twitter: @finalroundpin

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    #1939 10 days ago

    The Plumb Episode 7: Interview w/Marty Robbins

    Host: Krystle Gemnich

    Show Notes:
    - Until next time, Pinburgh
    - Pinburgh Stories - Please Share At theplumbpinballpodcast@gmail.com
    - Marty Robbins, Final Round Pinball Podcast, Formally From Head 2 Head Pinball Podcast
    - Corona Chat
    - Canadian music & Glass Tiger
    - Final Round: The Process
    - Fangirling/First H2H Shoutout Ever
    - Committing Time To Hobbies & Passions
    - Organizing Tournaments vs Competing
    - Watch Pinball Streaming!
    - Please note: Hot Nudge Have Cancelled Their Cola Trip
    - Getting Interview Butterflies
    - A "Tolerance For Failure": Growing As A Competitive Player
    - Liking "turds"
    - Flip Frenzy As A Metaphor
    - The Infamous BMW Ditch Story
    - Just Hufflepuff Stuff

    Intro Song: "I Love You" By Spacemen 3
    Outro Song: "Dont Forget About Me" By Glass Tiger

    Final Round Pinball Podcast

    Twitter: @finalroundpin
    Instagram: @finalroundpinballpodcast
    Gmail: @finalroundpinball@gmail.com

    Melbourne Silverball League
    Twitch: twitch.tv/melbournesilverball

    The Plumb
    Instagram: @theplumbpinball
    Email: theplumbpinballpodcast@gmail.com

    https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-gxj6t-f2cd50

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    #1940 8 days ago

    Fliptronic Pinball Exclusive Stream of deeproot Pinball's Retro Atomic Zombie Adventureland! Come Hang and see for yourself

    twitch.tv/fliptronic

    #1941 7 days ago

    The Pinball Show Episode 39: Big Changes & Big Pinball Talk

    Hosts: Dennis Kriesel & Zach Meny

    - Singing Ban: The Great Pinball Podcast Compromise

    - The Pinball Show Upcoming Scheduling Changes

    - Zach Fills A Lineup Hole With The Same Game?

    - TPN's FlipTronic Gets Exclusive Stream Of deeproot Pinball's Retro Atomic Zombie Adventureland (RAZA)

    - RAZA First Impressions

    - Paper Flunk's Interview On SAPS

    - Stern Pinball Releases A New-ish Pin

    - Stern Pinball Production Updates & Modifications To Business Model

    - Jersey Jack Pinball Partners With Scorebit

    - JJP GNR Code Update & Attract Jukebox

    - The Boys Need A Break...

    email: thepinballnetwork@gmail.com
    website: thepinballnetwork.net
    facebook: facebook.com/thepinballnetwork
    youtube: youtube.com/thepinballnetwork
    twitch: twitch.tv/pinballnetwork
    instagram: @thepinballnetwork
    twitter: @therealTPN

    https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-hq28p-f3098e

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    #1942 6 days ago

    Just Another Pinball Podcast Episode 16: Reviewing Reviews, Avengers, & RAZA Reveal

    Host: Joel Engelberth

    Reviewing reviews, my first few weeks with Avengers, and the RAZA reveal!

    email: justanotherpinball@gmail.com
    website: thepinballnetwork.net
    twitch: twitch.tv/justanotherpinball

    https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-wpztk-f32cd2

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    #1943 5 days ago

    Jessy Jay's Pinball Adventures Ep 11: Where's The Laugh Track?!

    Hosts: Jessy Jay & Ryan C.

    - Ryan Gets Rick and Morty

    - RAZA Discussion w/ Special Guest Dennis Kriesel

    - Shit Theme That Might Actually Be Good

    - Godzilla vs Samuel L Jackson: Bad Motherf***er

    - BOMP Episode 5

    - Jessy Really Loves Lamingtons

    email: jessyjaypinball@gmail.com
    website: thepinballnetwork.net

    https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-rudi8-f33917

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    #1944 4 days ago

    TPN and The Puppet Palz are thankful for all of you for the support this year. We are here to give you a special and most excellent gift for Thanksgiving....EPISODE 3!!!!!! (cue anxious lip biting as the Palz find themselves in peril) PLUS, AH GAWD, A VERY SPECIAL GUEST!!!

    The Puppet Palz Episode 3: The Keeper

    Hosts: Steve, Moppy, & Roary + Very Special Guests!

    Something BIG is happening in Puppet Pinball Land...listen now to hear the perils of our Palz...(cue nervous lip biting)

    email: puppetpalzpodcast@gmail.com
    facebook: facebook.com/PuppetPalz
    website: thepinballnetwork.net

    https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-2k47a-f364d2

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    #1945 3 days ago
    Quoted from ZMeny:

    TPN and The Puppet Palz are thankful for all of you for the support this year. We are here to give you a special and most excellent gift for Thanksgiving....EPISODE 3!!!!!! (cue anxious lip biting as the Palz find themselves in peril) PLUS, AH GAWD, A VERY SPECIAL GUEST!!!
    The Puppet Palz Episode 3: The Keeper
    Hosts: Steve, Moppy, & Roary + Very Special Guests!
    Something BIG is happening in Puppet Pinball Land...listen now to hear the perils of our Palz...(cue nervous lip biting)
    email: puppetpalzpodcast@gmail.com
    facebook: facebook.com/PuppetPalz
    website: thepinballnetwork.net
    https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-2k47a-f364d2
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    "Cooking with Novus", LOL

    #1946 5 hours ago

    The Pinball Show Episode 40: Get It Off Your Chest

    Hosts: Zach Meny & Greg Bone

    - Greg Bone's Stroll Down TPN Memory Lane

    - deeproot Subscriptions

    - Changes To Mirco Playfield Process

    - GNRs Shipping Overseas

    - Code Updates For Stranger Things, Avengers: Infinity Quest, & Black Knight

    - Pinball Market Trends™️ NOW ENHANCED WITH LAUGH TRACK!

    - Deals Of The Week

    - Deals Of The WTF?!

    - Collectible Props Market Trends

    - SEGMENT: For Fuck's Sake Zach...

    - Why Nicole Meny Is The Greatest

    - Greg Bone's Motivational Message To Pinball

    - TPN Last Week

    - TPN This Week

    email: thepinballnetwork@gmail.com
    website: thepinballnetwork.net
    facebook: facebook.com/thepinballnetwork
    twitch: twitch.tv/pinballnetwork
    youtube: youtube.com/thepinballnetwork
    instagram: @thepinballnetwork
    twitter: @therealTPN
    review: thisweekinpinball.com/the-pinball-show/

    https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-grpfy-f3a880

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    #1947 4 hours ago

    Greg Bone... My Mortal Enemy...

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