In your opinion what machine uses all the elements of pinball to the max and should be in all collections. Elements of pinball I mean playfield design,lighting,ruleset, toys,ramps,DMD,callouts,theme,skill shots,flow etc.
What would be your choice?
Any model of The Pin!
Or LOTR. Has it all. Original dots, custom speech + awesome movie rips....music that put you in the zone and never gets old...perfect integration of theme....epic ruleset...three wizard modes...nice art package (some disagree,or hate the photoshop...I could care less...mine always looked awesome). Awesome toys...good flow, shots feel great.
Post edited by TheFamilyArcade : Explained my answer.
Quoted from centerflank:Im going with TAF for right now as its the newest in my collection, that will change in a month Im sure. Theme is superbly translated into gameplay, great callouts, fun playfield layout and so on...
Even over Tron right now? I'll go with TZ. Because it has lots to do and it's fun to do it all!
LOTR - It marries all the elements together so superbly that it makes one rethink what a pinball machine is capable of being.
Quoted from DEWSHO:Even over Tron right now?
I know crazy right? Tron is Unbelievably sweet though, and I love LOTR but Ive just played it too much the past year.....I had a very fun game of TZ last night, too many great pins to chose just one!
Quoted from centerflank:I love LOTR but Ive just played it too much the past year!
It is a VERY good game! Had a blast playing it at your place last time, Going to go for GC on the 1st 
Quoted from Dayhuff:Williams IJ is the closest thing in my opinion. Just needs a spinner and a skill shot.
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Excellent integration of DMD!
Quoted from yzfguy:AFM. Fast, flowy, moving skill shot, humor, awesome theme, saucer toy.Good for either a quick bat the ball aroumd game or a long conquer the universe mission.
+1
The Shadow. Great flow, awesome ramps, best mini-playfield, best lock, good integration of movie theme, wizard mode is attainable 
, sound and dots are very well done, video mode is fast a nd furious and non repetitive. I love the art deco artwork and Baldwin doesn't bother me. Lighting could be better (compared to modern games I suppose) that's my only real negative.
Quoted from chocky909:Is this just asking which Pinball is the best or which has the most stuff in and on it?
If you read the original post, it is basically asking the same things that are asked when you rate a pin here at Pinside. What pin excels at *all* aspects/elements that make up a pin?
So I'd expect the responses to be similar to the way the pins are ranked in the Top 100 list.
Some of the ones mentioned so far I would argue are lacking in the art department.
Quoted from RobT:If you read the original post, it is basically asking the same things that are asked when you rate a pin here at Pinside. What pin excels at *all* aspects/elements that make up a pin?
So I'd expect the responses to be similar to the way the pins are ranked in the Top 100 list.
Some of the ones mentioned so far I would argue are lacking in the art department.
If you read my post you'll see what I wanted clarifying was if the question was of measuring quality or quantity. I think people are voting for TZ because it has the most stuff and LOTR because of the deep rules. There are pins with simpler but better rules than LOTR. There are games with fewer but better toys than TZ.
"Uses all the elements to the max" suggests a bigger=better attitude.
Remember now everyone is entitled to their opinion.
There is no wrong answer to this thread . We all have played many different machines and like various machines for certain things they offer. With all the knowledge gathered from the years of playing we all have a machine that stands out as a strong example of the so called perfect machine.
For everyone that has played pinball that is going to differ among pinball enthusiasts.
So let's just have some fun and keep the opinions coming!
I enjoy the variance of opinions!
My original vote was TAF with LoTR as my backup. But i think rob's right here, MM really has everything; great ruleset, awesome flow, fun shots, attainable wizard mode, fun toys. So i'd have to go MM > TAF > LoTR. Despite LoTR being my favorite pin of all time, its got quarky mechanics. MM & TAF just seem so smoothe.
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