They are issuing the tables as title updates instead of stand-alone DLC. Nearly every Xbox game has stand-alone DLC, so I'm not sure why they insist on shoehorning everything into a title update. Sounds like an issue with the programming more than Microsoft limitations. MS limits title updates to 4mb, they were granted twice that under an appeal. Meanwhile DLC can be 1.5 GB! JUST DO DLC. It's beyond me why they don't do DLC unless title updates are cheaper to release than DLC and Farsight is afraid of losing their shirt. Again, even budget titles have DLC, so I just don't get it... What a letdown for console fans...

Can they patch it in several small doses? Hearing what the guys behind 'Fez' have been going through, it sounds like MS charges a fee for each patch/title update. Maybe FS is going for the most bang-for-their-buck? I'm sure they want the tables to hit consoles just as bad as the rest of us do. I wonder if indie devs have tried a mass petition of MS to change their policies? It's odd that Android and Apple are in a similar position, but give their devs more freedom.

I love the NASCAR table, but I'd be down for some HD. Haven't played it in real life very much...

Sony was late releasing the patch. It's up now though. Try again. I played it on the PS3, haven't tried it again on the Vita yet. Dr. Dude is a cluster. Hard to tell what is what, but the shots feel good.

I played a nice one this weekend and definately did better, but I also had a few awful games! This was a very satisfying table on the old Williams Collection, so I hope to get better at it.

I'm not noticing a ton of lag, but I don't expect dead-on virtual physics. It's hard as hell to play the real tables while lying in bed, so I'm happy with whatever pinball video games they throw my way.

Go vote! A list of the usual suspects with a lot of games omitted. At least you can vote for as many tables as you'd like (no love for 'Corvette'? C'MON!)

http://pinballarcadefans.com/showthread.php/4615-I-d-Buy-That-Table-An-Unofficial-Poll

I probably bought that same 1-3 HDMI splitter too, and its awesome. If you have two systems, and turn one on after the other, it automatically switches to the 'new' signal. If you then turn it off, it switches back to the 'old' signal. All without having to get up and hit the button. I have my OUYA in there as well, and its made the whole thing very convenient.

ALSO, the OUYA version SUCKS. I need to link up my xbox controller to the OUYA and try it that way. I should say, the OUYA controller really does suck. The version felt really bad, but it might be the controller leading to a ton of flipper lag.

I love Goin' Nuts! Constant timed multiball. What's not to like? (besides the hokey theme)

Beat me to it! Yup. Looking forward to both.

Holy jeeze, I suck at Centaur. I'm surprised 'Spell ORBS' is a standard goal, as is 1-2-3-4 in order. Friggin' tough enough in real life, nevertheless virtually.

Microsoft is going to allow self-publishing later this month. At that point, Farsight won't need a publisher and should be able to release all the previous packs. I would guess it will happen in the next month or so? (I have no idea.)

Think Teed Off and Sorcerer for September?

Er, which game? Jive Time?

Victory is miserable. Not looking forward to that one. I would guess there is zero chance of the flipperless Playboy getting ported over either...?

The publishing changes start rolling out this month. It looks like it is going to go in stages, not all at once, so they may or may not be able to publish immediately. It seems like it might be related to the upcoming currency change from points to 'dollars'. They are slowly rolling it out to different venues as they eliminate points. That's just me speculating because they seem to share a similar time-frame.

It all has to do with the new Microsoft publishing changes. Farsights publisher went bankrupt and pulled the plug on them. Microsoft is about to let developers self-publish, so they should come fairly soon. I'm kinda wondering if they're going to have to relaunch the whole game on the 360. Seems weird that they will be self-publishing DLC for a game that they didn't 'publish'...

Great point! I'm not sure of their XboxOne plans right now, other than they'll get it going eventually. They seem to be pretty quick about reaching new platforms, like the Vita and OUYA...

Microsoft began rolling out self publishing at that point, its not necessarily a release date for new content from any developer. It looks like they began the application process in August. More info here: http://www.joystiq.com/2013/08/20/microsoft-starts-independent-developers-xbox-self-publishing/

I still love that everyone thinks Farsight doesn't want to sell games on Xbox, the largest console base in the country. Like they're doing it on purpose to piss everyone off. Everyone is so bitter about it, but the people who should be the most pissed off are Farsight! They're losing the sales, and they've been very professional about this whole mess. Their hands have been tied for nearly a year now, I feel bad for Farsight, but I'm glad they have kept rolling out new tables month after month.

Also, even Farsight says that from a performance standpoint, the Xbox is the definitive version.

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Hate to be 'that guy', but Victory is easily the worst game to hit TPA yet... It's a major dud on the Gottlieb Collection. Maybe I'm playing it wrong, but ouch...

Yeah, Sorcerer is great, and I'd even be down for 'Jive Time' too. I'm told they were initially just doing pins they owned, and someone at FS owned a Victory. Now they have to acquire the pins to get them into the game (obviously). I always wondered why Victory was in there, but now it makes sense. I'd be ok if they put the Playboy bagatelle in there as a free download. That game was hard as hell on the Gottlieb collection! I don't really see people paying for it though. El Dorado still hasn't been ported either. Meh...

Why not bring Sorcerer over? Everyone digs that game...

Sweet! Here comes Shaq Attack, Sharky's Shootout, Cue Ball Wizard, Big Hurt, Big House, Raven, Rock Encore, Hollywood Heat, Secret Service, etc.

I have my donation to the Barb Wire kickstarter in hand, ready to go.

El Dorado and...

I actually agree! CBW is a lot of fun, and is a good looking game when you walk up to it...

Source? I didn't see anything on their Facebook page. Also, awesome! It will be great to spend some time with Who Dunnit?

TFTC is Data East. Have they swung any DE or Sega games over under the Stern banner?

I think Diner is the August table. After HRC

Maybe I'm just dense, but I don't get a BSD reference there. Not saying that it's NOT BSD, I have a strong rumor that it is, I just don't get the reference if it's there.

Wow... that's pretty cryptic! I'm impressed that they came up with it, and someone solved it.

Xbox 360 tables updated after 18 months...?

Xenon out now... On mobile anyway

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I was able to download the iOS update on my iPad Mini early Saturday morning... check again?