I totally agree, i was considering GOT pro instead of twd, but seeing how poor it looks compared to premium/le, combined with overall very amateur-looking artwork on translite and cabinet.... twd pro wins.

the gameplay of pre/le looks real cool!

I really was hoping Stern would stop making major gameplay differences between the models. I'd imagine it even costs them money since they have to produce two versions of code and design 2 playfields for one game. In my perfect world Stern would keep LE and Premium the way they are with just cosmetics and then design it so if you purchased a pro you could later add-on to make it a premium with bolt ons (costing you more if you get them all) if you decided to. Then you could even cherry pick something you really wanted such as spinners for Mets Pro.

The PRO of GOT looks bad. I can't believe how bad.

Avatar was a $5400 piece of a equipment during the cost cutting era and this will be $6000 during a boom period. I'm just going to go full EM and stop thinking about it, modern pinball is too much for me.

Less features equals less maintenance for the Pros, which are supposed to be on location.

Just saying.

And rental cars should not have heat, air conditioning, and radios.

Back in my day windows had buttons to get them up or down and it was called standard… F you stern I am out.

I'm with you. I started about a year ago. Got a Centigrade 37, Atlantis & Abra Ca Dabra and couldn't be happier. All 3 for WAY less than any NIB being sold. I still like 'modern' pins and will keep the ones I have, but the bang for the buck just isn't there any more.

This pro is definitely a step backward it may rival WWE in sales numbers.

Link to photos?

This is how Ac/Dc looked felt too. St was decent because there was no MAJOR toy to remove. ST was Steves cost cutting game. Maybe they gimped his budget every other game.

I predict an uptick in TWD Pro and Kiss Pro sales after this announcement. Disappointing to see so much stripped off on GOT Pro! Let's hope Dwight can program a hell of a rule-set because that's the only thing that might be able to save it. ACDC Pro is also stripped down but at least it has Lyman's rule-set to fall back on.

I think the best game on route right now is the most featured packed, rainbow seizure out there, not the most basic and easy to maintain one!

Just saying?

What are you just saying?

That's a pretty lame point.

Just saying.

Operators haven't been clamoring for games with "less features," ever. Well they did in the late 80s but when Premier built them nobody bought any.

haha, really? I'd wager Stern sold more of their last pro version than any other current company has sold in total.

Have to agree as well. The pro looks..... Well.....

Can someone post a link to these photos.

gotpro.jpg

I'm with you on this one Brian. I had funds ready to go. I'm a Pro buyer, not a pre/LE buyer. I'm out on this one for now by the looks of it. I can deal with some things missing from a pro, but damn....this one looks stripped.

However, on ACDC, the lower playfield was not an interactive part of the game. On GoT, the upper playfield appears to be a significant part of the gameplay.

The pro looks like it could be pretty fast and fun. We might all want to wait and see something in action or actually play a game before we decide it is garbage. Hell, if both the LE and pro are different enough and fun I might own both of them.

I bet the only person excited about the pro model is Andrew Heighway.

I'm glad I wasn't the only thinking the Pro looked like "The Pin"

Not saying garbage....just stripped down. But at the price....eeeshh..

How can you tell this one is stripped down without pics of the other version as a point of reference?

I disagree. AC/DC Pro sold a ton, and it had a giant face on it.

I think everyone should hold their wild speculations until the pin is available for play ... but, this is pinside after all.

There are pics.

It kind of looks system 11ish. Like a HS or Taxi.

I don't know if it's that bad but very underwhelming. Doesn't look like it commands $6500. Maybe it will sell for way less than past pro's. Lol, yeah right.

This is all optics. The pro has way more on it than other pros. Has drops, spinner, kickback, LEDs, just as many shots if not more. The problem is the LE/Premium is packed with stuff and it makes the pro look sparse, but objectively compared to TRON or KISS this pro has way more features.

MSRP is 5995. Most people end up paying closer to 5

Care to share? I just got into work and all I am finding is the pic already posted in this thread.

So sad,was thinking this pro would be my first NIB but just can't see it, especially with a higher price

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/official-game-of-thrones/page/19#post-2666823

and

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/official-game-of-thrones/page/20#post-2666838

Go to Sterns Facebook page. THey are all there

That pro looks like a white wood. That never got completed. Way to make a sh!t sandwich stern.

Years of pinside comments about about previous Stern pins: "There's NO reason to buy Premium/LE because the gameplay is not significantly different."

Thy wish is granted.

Met Pro and ST Pro are standing tall as lords of the pros right now.

Why can't they just focus on one design of a game? Why change up the features of it? Just average out the price something in the middle of LE and Pro. I can see why they make the pro. So that others can buy a cheaper game. But to me, I'd think if you made only one version of the game, list it in the middle, both types of people would be happy. Those who normally but the Premium/LE would think they're getting a deal. And those who normally buy the Pro, would probably be comfortable spending another $1000, instead of $3000, to have all the features.

I don't know. Just my thoughts. Pinball machines used to be like this, right?

It still has the interactive dragon!

There is something with all the features and is in the middle for pricing. It's called the prem model.

But all the ppl looking to buy a pro will bitch and complain about the price

Then you will ppl bitch and complain about an upper play field

Then you will have ppl bitch and complain about a $7500 machine with bad art.

Pinball "used to be" like a 98 % market for operators, with scraps sold to the home market.

It's completely different now. Lord knows the real percentage but I wouldn't be shocked if it's close to 50/50 these days. The buyer's market has become flooded with big-spending newbies who will pay thousands of dollars more for a "premium" model. Stern is simply exploiting and adapting to the new market.

If things were like they "used to be" - thriving arcades and location pinball, with extremely rare home sales - this wouldn't make sense. But today it does. You all created this monster.

Now I must humbly ask..what is "The Pin"? This phrase, what is its deeper meaning?

Disagree regarding AC/DC Pro
- Bell - original pros just had a standup target - no swinging bell
- Jukebox - all it is is some lights
- Fire Button - GoT has a fire button
- Canon - yes - that's the one item you got right
- GoT has 3 "toys" AC/DC doesn't have: the sword lock, battering ram and IM War Monger kicker