Thank you for this recommendation, within an hour’s time(through email even), confirmed availability, price, and paid, deal done. Two days later, it’s here. Great service from Jason, I’ll second this recommendation.

Alright, since you left the door open.....

“Your mom just rolled over, and told me it was 69 degrees in the house.”

Couldn’t let a “mom joke” opportunity go to waste, lol.

For an all around mix of Rush material, go with Chronicles. You can find it on vinyl, CDs a little easier. Good mix of their main known, and some off the wall favorites. I’ve gone through 3 copies of Chronicles throughout time, a great go to when you can’t decide which album to listen to.

So what you’re saying, the machine plays “exactly” how a musician learns/plays a Rush song? I’ve had many of those nights, lol.

I love the one ad stating “Unfortunately I have to sell it....”
....but I’m asking $4K more.

Explain to me, the value these people have added to the game, to ask/expect $2-4K over MSRP. I know their reasoning(or can gather), but want them to actually explain how they added that kind of value to a machine that’s still in the box, lol.

Wet dreams I guess, there was one only a couple of hours from me, and had their price actually been based in reality, it would have been sold and in my house by now.

People aren’t here to financially support your overspending habit people.....

I’m with you until the part about shipping, it’s their own ignorance or poor planning, or just plain greed. The latter being mostly what I’m seeing. But it does help mark off who not to do business with

Yea I’m disheartened that I’m not getting an LE, as I wanted that whole NIB experience for this particular title, but not enough to sweat it. Life moves on, it’s just a machine.

Mainly I was looking to see if any of them had the balls to reply and actually justify the asking price hike. Yea, I know it’s been the trend lately, but the only way that fades, is by not paying an obscene amount over, for literally no improvement to justify the additional expense.

Pretty cool video, I always enjoyed this one, guy did amazing work with the movement and angles.

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Someone posted it for sale here, a few weeks ago, not sure if a Pinsider bought it or not.

It’s always nice, to be looking through multiple storage containers, for something completely different, and come across a purchase from 20+ years ago

Completely forgot about these....

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It’s ok Gryz, I know you’re only a 1/3 of the way through the Rush catalog, still plenty more music to enjoy

I almost fully agree with PinMonk, except I’d go one album further, Promised Land was a great album all the way through as well. From their EP to PL, I’m a fan. Much beyond that, I still have a hard time getting into it.

Queensryche and Rush, were great stamina builders, when practicing drumming.

It is a great album, as much as you’re starting to give these other albums a listen, spin Test For Echo a few times. I’d really be surprised if you didn’t start getting into that. There’s no way you can listen to it, and not start grooving on a few of the songs right away.

I will say with Rush, seeing them perform the material live, gives it a whole different dimension. To see and feel what they were attempting with the recording, completely changes the game. I wasn’t a huge fan of Snakes & Arrows or Vapor Trails, until I saw those tours, and witnessed the songs live. As much as I love the band, their studio recordings, just doesn’t represent them well enough. The talent is definitely there, but the mixing is a little dry.

Fly by Night multiball.

People have been making comment to up the size and use 2 1/4" I believe, maybe the 2 1/2", but I believe it's the 1/4" step up.

Some people shouldn’t drink & USB, it can cause complications.....

Got the call and email today, my Aug-Sept run wait, was just sped up 3-4 months. Glad I was prepared just in case, lol. Should be here next week.

For others that have been told a later date, you might want to prepare, in case yours is ready earlier than expected. Again, mine is 3-4 months earlier than what I was told.

And while I wait, I’ll figure out a place for this, might even become my topper. It was my anniversary gift from my wife yesterday. I love it!

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From my understanding, expression lights were only available for the LEs when shipped, any add on sets haven’t been released yet. Unless something’s changed.

Trying to remember, where were those clear washers from? Thanks!

Thank you my friend, and if memory serves me correctly, it was the 3/4” washers.

Great timing, sent you a message, since I already have a pending order with NC.

Depends on what you want, money saved can be spent on the protection and upgrades. Buying the LE you’d get a lot, but still have to put additional funds in it. The art is nice no question, is it what you want though?

Talking NIB LE, or one that’s already been played?

Coil stops and coil sleeves, check those first, would be good to replace with better stuff than what Stern supplies, and relatively cheap parts to replace.

It’s been noted and researched already, that the flippers will start hitting a mushy stage, after about 45-60 minutes of constant play. The coils get too warm, and the flippers will get weaker.

With that said, if the mushiness remains after the machine hasn’t been played for awhile, then yea check your stops and sleeves. That much heat and abuse, could’ve already caused issues with the low grade parts.

So, my Premium arrived yesterday afternoon, waiting on a few other items, then will unbox and set it up. I know it won’t be the only “time” I’ll be in the “machine”, but want to get most things done and addressed, before my first flip.

Haven’t watched any streams, haven’t played one in person yet, just been reading everyone’s stories/issues, and taking notes. I wasn’t supposed to get it until Aug/Sept this year, so a little ahead of schedule, and not fully prepared with all items I wanted to have on hand. I was planning on being patient and waiting, I can still hold to that, at least until the crucial items come in. Then it’s no holds barred, still can’t believe I have a Rush pin in our home.

They were my first concert & first NIB pin, the reason I got into performing music for so many years, and had such a long stint and desire performing.

This is going to be great!

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That’s what she said....?

Thanks for the info, I was actually going to be asking about that very thing in this thread.

In regards to uploading different songs, is there a way of doing this on Rush(or any newer Stern), that could be used only for the Attract mode, but not be played during game play? I’ve got some ideas for Attract mode if possible, but don’t want it to integrate with the main game play, since it wouldn’t sync up with the video and light effects.

Color Mode mod and instrument mod for the inserts, from Pinmonk, just seems to make those inserts better. There’s a lot of items being offered for the machine, look at all of it and decide what suits your needs/desires.

People just like to tinker with their machines, much like Rush did with their music, that’s all. The game is amazing by itself, knowing you can do more, is just an added bonus.

Put down deposit on Jan 5th or 7th(can’t remember), was told it would be Aug/Sept this year, but my Premium arrived last Thursday. It’s a crapshoot, could be people backing out, could be Stern pumping machines out, just depends on what the dealers/distributors get in.

Get on a list and have money ready, about the best you can do. No reason to buy a used machine or 2nd/3rd market prices, if you’re willing to wait and possibly be surprised.

Food for thought, to those having the one off issues:

Have you(or anyone else) added any mods to your machine, that draws any power? IE interactive mods or speaker upgrades?

I’m just spit balling here, haven’t looked into it any further. Machines could have been dialed in for original setup, and maybe a draw from one/many of those mods is tripping the system just slightly? Electronics are finicky, if anything pulses just beyond spec, can cause strange oddball behavior.

I completely agree for any single interactive mod, like the ESL or anything similar. But what if someone has 4-6 going? Add in, power supplies tend to drop their output levels slightly, after some long use. I haven’t looked, are these p/s in new Sterns adjustable or static?

Just looking at what’s changed vs original, there’s usually a culprit in there somewhere.

A couple of things I noticed while installing some items on mine last night, to help some of the less experienced folks new to machine ownership.

Much earlier in the thread, there was discussion of the leg bracket mounts inside the cab. Can confirm on the later run of Premium, they did use the better brackets. And they seemed to have installed correctly, no issues with mine. Again, just in case people were still concerned, as I don’t remember seeing a follow up from others.

NinjaCamp rollover switch protectors: For experienced individuals this will seem trivial, this is more so for the noobs. After installing each protector, physically try depressing each switch, to ensure it works and isn’t catching on the protector. I had 4 of them that I had to turn 180 degrees and reset, as the switch was catching. When doing this test, slide the protector as far down as you can, try it, then slide it up as far as you can, try it. If the switch moves freely after both of those tests, center it and try again. I’m thinking it’s just some minor leftover material inside the protector, but if you don’t check it, you mind find yourself with a switch no registering. Each test you should easily here the clicking of the switch.

Lastly, if anyone was curious what the lollipop side rails look like on a Premium, look below. I like it and it doesn’t cover up much, as there’s not really a lot happening with the artwork in those areas.

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Questions: I’ll be installing my NC scoop protector and VUK protector tonight, I can’t remember if anyone posted vids of install, or if there’s a post that broke it down. Anyone happen to know off the top of their head? I searched this thread and others, but didn’t seem to find anything.

Scoop looks pretty straight forward, wasn’t sure about the VUK.

Just trying to prepare before getting into it tonight. Thanks everyone.

That’s it, knew I seen something posted at some point, thanks!

So far, everything has been pretty straight forward, but will surely keep that in mind.

With so much “scoop” talk over the past few months, I couldn’t remember what steps went to which version of the protector. Stern v1, v2, v3, NC, Cliffy, Mantis......lol.

Thank you, looking forward to getting these knocked out tonight.

OK, this is only for a chuckle....that damn string, think it needs to be mentioned at the beginning of the instructions with the tools & misc, lol. Mid stage I had to search high and low through our house, to find string. Couldn’t find any spare wire small enough on hand.

And just a suggestion, if someone is also going to be doing the VUK, much easier to just take out that whole wire form from the VUK to the sling. That way you’re not fighting with that mid flap(wire form) next to the right scoop, when reinstalling the bolt on the scoop protector. So much easier.

Wow.........

Still catching my breath after playing the first few games. I did all of my pre-maintenance before even turning on the machine, it was difficult to be patient, but felt very satisfying to have all of that done, before taking the first flip.

This game has some nice smooth/rewarding shots and combos, absolutely love the flow. And our boy loves One Little Victory, that’s his jam when starting a game. 5yrs old, and grooving to Rush

I would like to thank some people, for helping to take this title to the next level, adding so much of the “Rush” experience, with their add ons and protectors.

Thank you:
NinjaCamp
PinMonk
Rocket City Pinball
Diddy Pinball
Willipinball
Gameroom Mods
Space Coast Pinball
Apron Envy
Drumstarr
Lermods
WizMods
Pinball Life
Game Exchange
All of you reporting issues or supplying important info in these threads!

This game is awesome and a keeper, I see longevity with this title.

Build date April 27th, 2022
Code v0.93 installed.

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10 games in, and already a casualty......

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Can someone verify for me, does the spinner have a backside or mount, or is it just glued to the wire form itself? I’m not seeing any other piece, but wanting to make sure.

Thank you Cata and Andy, much appreciated, I’ll have to go digging around for it.

Strange, not sure I’ve seen anyone report that issue yet. I was really getting that groove of spinner to upper flipper to inner loop, and then it just blew apart, lol.

Side notes: NinjaCamp inner loop v2 fix, has been registering the shot each time, no issues here.

Now if you get any slow(I mean really slow) rolls by a rollover switch protector, I’ve had the ball hang up on them 4 times. Takes a good nudge, but the ball will get released.

Curiosity, have you changed out the inside spring(long one) at all? I installed the orange one on mine, and seems to be pretty smooth. Granted I only have 10 games on my machine before my spinner broke, lol. The original spring seemed a little soft, but I have the red(super tight) and the step below it as well(can’t remember the color). Started with the orange, and it felt good on the plunge.

Per PBL’s pages under their shooter springs:
Spring tension from lowest to highest:
Blue (266-5001-05)
Green (266-5001-04)
Standard (10-148-1)
Orange (266-5001-07)
Purple (266-5001)
Gray/Silver (266-5001-14)
Red (10-148-2)

For anyone that is interested in trying these out. I’ve got the orange currently in there and feels good. I also picked up the purple to try if needed, and a red if I wanted to go extreme. I’d have to look, but I think green came on my machine originally, which is a step down from the standard spring.

Appreciate the pics of them installed, looks great!

I’ve got a set here on standby, in case the Expression Lights availability fizzles out, or becomes too costly. I like the idea of the lights, and what I’ve seen with them, but haven’t really felt like anything was missing when playing my Premium without them.

You don’t miss what you don’t have....lol.

Or spend a few bucks and get these. I bet you’d get them quicker, and seem to be more durable.

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/shops/1326-ninjacamp-mods/06741-rush-premium-le-time-machine-ramp-guards

Go into diagnostic settings, test the ramp up and down. If it still raises too short, look under the playfield to see if the wires for the ramp are catching on anything. While there, make sure the bolts holding the ramp mech are snug, and that the unit itself isn’t loose.

Check those simple mechanical aspects before going any further.

Video from a previous tour, Cartman was pretending to be Geddy. On the machine, it’s Geddy saying the same line as Cartman, when Cartman was pretending to be Geddy Lee.

Yes, you’ll hear(or should hear) the clicking sound, when it activates. No power, you’re testing the mechanical aspect of the switch. Anytime you work with a switch, check with this method, especially after placing the part back in. Good way to confirm it works mechanically like it should.

That’s exactly what it does, when machine is connected to Insider Connect over WiFi. It keeps real time when not being played, but will adjust to gameplay once game has started.

And if you’re connected, make sure you have accurately entered in your location, so that it knows which time zone as well.

Worst case(maybe easiest), loosen the screw that holds the clock hand, reposition, retighten. Make sure to set your bias back to zero before adjusting.

Expression Lights, Side Armor, ect..... still pending release date.

You should see the package you get, when ordering the Tibetan Breeze Flipper set, he takes great care of his customers. That’s part of the reason why I was happy to buy the flipper cooling fans from him, and not the “other” offerings out there. He shared the data of his testing, informed the community, and delivered a great product. That is worth backing and supporting to me.

And his personal instructions he includes, makes it so nice, when applying the pieces you acquire from him.

To PinMonk: absolutely love those cutters, smooth and comfortable.

Not sure about if it’s a decal or not, but wanted to comment for those who are thinking of getting the apron cover and the speaker grill cover, for their model.

I ordered both for my Premium, and after applying both, it seemed to be too much overkill of that particular art. The speaker cover is nice on its own, and honestly, the factory apron look doesn’t bother me as much as I thought it would. I’ll keep it around in case I change my mind.

To your point, if you’re already feeling it’s too much of that cab art for your machine, you should follow that train of thought.

Probably for the overseas markets.

Oh that stinks, they’re such little bastards to begin with, let alone trying to find them. Yes, Loctite all the way.

Since you’ll have to go through the trouble of pulling the ramp, to get to all of the screws, might as well get the NinjaCamp replacements and replace those blue nubs with better quality stuff.

Reminds me, I should Loctite the remaining screws I didn’t pull, when putting the NC guards in....

Just installed my E...SL mod(thanks NC!), and played a few games to try it out. Looks very nice, and adds so much more goodness to this game. Side note for those installing, make sure when taping the connector end per their instructions, make sure to wrap further down the cable, and tape around the black webbing as well. Did my taping too short, and it frayed the end of the webbing, and pulled it back some.

Had a few good games, better scoring than my last round, really missing that spinner that’s waiting on the replacement......looking at you Stern....

Starting to get the feel of certain shots and combos, enjoying the learning curve with this one. I’m one of the few probably enjoying the call outs, Rush to a T, or R in this case.

Well, blew mine apart, on the 10th game played on the machine. So yea, carry away! I’ll get it once I have my replacement from Stern....

2nd that, the back half of MP is awesome.

I’m surprised I haven’t seen much mention of their other instrumentals. Limbo and Leave That Thing Alone, also Where’s My Thing is epic in my eyes. Still a fan of Lavilla and YYZ, don’t get me wrong. Maybe because their songs from the 90’s era?

Happy Father’s Day numnuts, to all of the Rush dads out there, eh?

We spent some time playing our Rush today, our boy was grooving to One Little Victory and 2112 while playing. We’re having a blast.

And I think most Rush fans are ok with that, doesn’t bother me one bit. I love and enjoy their music and humor, and this pin delivers.

Pull out the bag stapled in your machine, it has the manual and other helpful paperwork. One being a picture breakdown of all node board locations. Mine was packed with that literally right up front, so it was the first thing you see.

This has been a great suggestion way back in the thread. I will add, I have not added the additional washer that’s mentioned, but did twist the scoop(gently) as much as I could clockwise(looking at underside, playfield up position) while retightening the scoop. This delivers the ball to the right flipper each time for me. No ball drain unless I accidentally press the flipper before the ball gets to it, which would be an error on timing, not of the scoop eject.

I’m feeling for you guys waiting on replacement node 10 boards, going on a month now, waiting for my spinner target replacement.......yea a spinner.

Not thinking those are as hard pressed to come by vs the node boards, but what do I know. My distributor has been great, and responds very quickly. Stern.....I’ll tell myself they’re just busy, lol.

If there was ever a doubt, of the machine attracting people of all ages....

I’ve already shared how our 5yr old boy loves this game. Just a little bit ago, my mother-in-law stopped to look at it and said “Next time I’m here, I really want to try that machine!”

So yes, Rush can pull from all age groups, I love it.

Do the assist set, to ensure you’ll have what you need. Some people’s machines work well with one of the two pieces, other use both pieces. I have the two piece set on mine, and works flawlessly.

Bought the ramp guards(make sure to have blue Loctite on hand), full scoop protector, scoop sleeves, inner loop assist set, rollover protectors(though it can trap slow moving balls), and the Exit Stage Left mod. They have great instructions with their products. If needed, message me and can help walk you through, or at least give you extra tips/tid bits I learned while installing mine.

All great products, along with many other mods that are out there. NC didn’t offer the spinner protector at the time, I would have loved to had that before playing. 10 games in, I blew my spinner apart. Over a month later, still waiting on replacement from Stern.

Since this thread covers so many Radom variations of cause/effect of the inner loop scoring, I think this is a good detailed write up, for those who encounter a similar situation. But not all machines are the same, not all leveled/angled the same, not all set the same(flipper power, ect...). It would be nice to have a one and done fix for all, just haven’t seen it yet.

On my Premium, leveled and set at 6.7 pitch: upper flipper set at 182, and have the NinjaCamp v2 assist set(two piece) installed. Inner loop registers every hit.

Slightly lowering the upper flipper power, has helped make the inner loop, left ramp, and side scoop shots very smooth, not so jaggety. But again, that’s on my machine, may be different for others.

If I’m not mistaken, their first tour van I believe, had some airbrush art on it. It would make sense to work that style into the art package, if that’s the case.

Who doesn’t enjoy good airbrush art on a van? I may have just aged myself, lol.

Stern and fast, can’t be used in same sentence, unless you’re describing some game play.

Still pending my spinner replacement, after notifying them and my distributor on May 31st, including contacting them the past couple of weeks for an update. They still give out the generic response, each one almost being word for word.

Glad you guys are starting to get your board replacements.

Oh, that made me laugh out loud, yes!!!

Psshh, beginner.......left it strapped to the pallet, to take in game room

Just kidding ya, congrats on receiving it. Take your time setting it up and dialing it in, it’s a fun pin. Welcome to the club!

That’s awesome to hear, great customer service/experience right there!

Got my additional piece yesterday or day before, either way it arrived. Thank you so much for going above and beyond, for a great customer experience.

Count your blessings, I’m coming up on two months for my spinner target replacement......

So, received my replacement spinner from Stern two months later, anyone notice anything missing?

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Well, the distributor put it as bluntly as he could, lol.

Just boggles my mind, of why this replacement seems to be so difficult. People with Node board issues, are getting faster turnaround, which I am greatly happy for them. This is just a simple spinner(and decals) replacement.

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Looks pretty dang good! Wish these would work without having the EL kit, as we patiently wait for Stern to release.

Nice job on those!

If you had one, installed one, and/or researched about it, you would understand. The maker shared their trials through the process, not everything is going to be perfect in life.

If you are familiar with Rush history, especially their video incorporations during live concerts, they take iconic items from their various album covers, and present them in different ways.

Either you get it, or you don’t, you can always choose to move on. No need to be “that” pinsider.

I picked up the blue 242, been working fine for me.

So if you don’t like it, why not move on then? What was the purpose of the post, if you’re not interested in the item? To tear down someone else’s work? That’s not having an opinion, that’s being an asshole. That’s what I was referring to with “that” comment.

An opinion would be commenting you don’t like it, and it’s not for you, or not commenting at all, and stopping there.

If you can make better, then do it. For those that enjoy(myself included), we’re pretty happy with it.

Anyway, moving on....just enjoy your machine, and have a better day tomorrow

Gryszz, I was actually thinking of you today. Within this thread, you’ve shared your musical journey, discovering Rush material you never really gave a chance to previously.

With that being said, I’d like you to take a listen to their live album A Show of Hands. A lot of great songs you’re missing out on, and a great compilation of live recordings.

As much as I love Rush, this is the one live album I find myself playing over and over. The sound is as clean as Exit...Stage Left, with a more full balanced sound. The engineering of this was great.

Yes, I happened to be listening to it today.

It’s the time of day, lots of people probably doing the same, or people are hogging up your service provider’s server with streaming and what not.

I used the same method earlier today around 11am EST, took about 50 minutes to download and complete the install. Mind you, wife and I were both working from home, so that slowed it down some over WiFi.

All Rush games came with pretty much zilch in the bag, can’t even call it a goodie bag anymore. Higher prices for less, typical market, lol.

Make sure machine has one of the latest codes(.96,.97,.98), and you can select it before starting a game. Hold both flippers, then choices come up that you can toogle through. It’s a really fun mode, best of luck on it.

Bit the bullet and bought a LZ expression lights kit, tired of waiting on Stern for the release. I’ve got some other artwork here, that I should be able to use, to re-theme them.

Bring on the NC speaker kits

I believe that was disabled with latest code release, go back and read through the Read Me file for the update. I’m not 100% positive without looking, but I know it’s mentioned a few pages back.

It’s going to be a good weekend, replacement decals for my spinner target arrived, pinwoofer kit arrived earlier this week, and the LZ expression lights kit came today.

Time to get busy....

Ask, and you shall receive....

Yes, it’s an LZ expression lights kit. After seeing it in action, does it bother me it’s an LZ kit? Nope!!! Not one bit. And if Stern ever releases the Rush version, it’s literally a simple swap of the artwork plastic, 3 screws per side without having to remove the lights themselves.

They can be installed without removing the playfield, just be careful and take your time.

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Here’s a pic of mine, since I had the glass off earlier. No issues with mine, if you’d like to compare.

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Later today, I’ll snap pics of the machine turned off, to show what they look like, forget to do that yesterday, lol.

And you’re welcome distributors who are sitting on a pile of LZ kits. I take PP, Venmo, and cash for my finders fee for your upcoming sales

Pics of the LZ kit with machine turned off.

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I’m just leaving it as I have pictured above, not adding any art blades. If/when the actual Rush version gets released, I’ll cross that bridge at that time. There’s so much on the playfield that blocks sight to those areas, I don’t get that feeling like something is missing.

When the game is on, there’s so much activity with those lights, you won’t notice/care about the art, you’ll be focused more on the lights.

Plain and simple, I’m happy with it for now, and it fills the void. You can either have the lights now, or continue to wait. After seeing the lights in action and how they’re programmed, I’m glad I didn’t wait. Now I get what LE owners were experiencing with these.

I’m not pushing for anyone to do this, just sharing my thoughts and how it looks with the LZ kit installed, for those who were considering.

Question for Rush owners with Pinwoofer kit installed, note I am not using any external sub, just backbox and cabinet speakers.

At certain frequencies/tones, I’m getting some slight crackling through the speakers. It’s not all of the time, but does seem to be consistent. My volume level isn’t set very high.

Trying to figure out if the recommended settings from Pinwoofer are overdriving the speakers, or if the the recordings Stern used, already had it present. Can’t say I noticed it previous to swapping the speakers out. Connections are all tight and correct, double checked my work already.

Maybe I just need to find that right balance with the amp settings.

Machine settings:
-backbox and cabinet speakers set to 8ohms
-took off audio filter
-music set at -5
-speech at -15
-amp set to Pinwoofer recommendations
-master volume at 18

No lie, it’s literally the same system, only involves swapping out the plastic cover that has art. 3 screws on each side, and art could be swapped. It’d be nice if Stern would just offer the art pieces

Appreciate the replies regarding audio, glad to know it’s noticed with other machines.

Exactly, if buying the Rush version later on, you can undo 3 screws per art panel over the lights, swap them and be done. As you mentioned, LZ art blades are not used, so they’re sitting there new untouched.

They probably look at it, as why address it, when other people out there, are already providing the solution? Which I am ever grateful for, many who post in this very thread.