Quoted from Pinplayer1967:

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Quoted from PinMonk:

This is ill-advised for Rush. Unlike KISS, Rush seems to have extremely minimal clear paired with art adhesion issues. There are some NASTY damage pictures after less than 200 plays. You will not have the same experience as KISS on a Rush missing a protector.

Quoted from calprog:

The game is a big disappointment to me. The whole scoop thing pisses me off. Game needs better code. I have no clue what is going on! Game has no new mechs!! I am a big RUSH fan. Grew who with them and have been to many shows. Questioning my purchase. They could have done better!

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Quoted from Jcanuck72:

This may be naive of me to say, but why don't we as a pinball/Rush community "Resist" buying LE's from flippers that are clearly not fans looking to make a fast (and unreasonable return). If I'm not mistaken this is the first time Stern has built 1000 LE's -- there are already a ton on the market and most haven't even been delivered yet!
In this case supply of LE's may well exceed demand. I think it would be fitting if flippers were made to sit on there NIB machines due to a lack of buyers and then have to sell at a loss!

Quoted from sofgwhat:

Couldn't agree more! My first LE stern and I'm not impressed, game play and build quality are great but lacking on the frills for $11K IMO. No topper, simple shooter rod, unimpressive graphics finish (compared to what a spooky butter cabinet looks like), no speaker lights and not to mention the sound system that sounds like Rush is playing from a tin cup. Don't get me wrong, it's a great game but feels like a stern money grab.

Quoted from Rarehero:

After adjusting the audio settings on my LE (4ohm and then the other settings to bring the treble & bass back), my Rush sounds spectacular IMO. Crystal clear music & voice, great stereo separation, and I can feel the bass as my hands rest on the game.
Everyone has different audio expectations though. I went to a collector's house once and he was like "AC/DC just sounds like absolutely SHIT...so I modded mine, it's unbelievable, you've GOT to hear it!" He had this GIANT amplifier or equalizer or something inside his game. He turned it on. It was SOOOOOOO bad...just absolutely caustic. Sounded like a car that blasts too much bass in the distance. You couldn't hear the lyrics or much of the music anymore...just diarrhea fart bass. He looks at me smiling..."Isn't it GREAT?!?!?" I'm like...are you serious? It's horrible. It's viscerally hurting my ears...I think my factory stock one sounds better, you can actually hear the music"....and he says "Oh, well, I'm mostly deaf from going to too many concerts - so this sounds good to me"
Anyway, with some tweaks - Rush sounds awesome.

Quoted from Rarehero:

Do it. The LE looks awesome, you get better speakers, expression lighting, shaker, invisiglass, inner art blades, guitar rails…at todays Prem prices, no reason not to get LE if it’s about MSRP or less.

Quoted from redbarchetta:

Long-time Rush fan, first-time poster. Apologies if this has been asked before, but I didn't see any mention in this thread. Just received my Premium and noticed that the ball will jump the left-return rail with a strong shot on the right/steel ramp that runs behind the back cabinet (with diverter inactivated). Ball ends up careening back onto the playfield as a result. I lowered flipper strength down to 225, which seems to resolve *some* of those shots, but not all of them (a good flush hit will still cause it). What could be causing this?

Quoted from DiabloRush:

For those with the Expression lighting system and that have played JJP Guns ‘n Roses, how do the two compare? I have both Rush Pro (no expression) and a GnR LE, with a zillion RGBs. Lighting on GnR is blow-away impressive. I’m mean, REALLY impressive. Each song custom choreographed, and tons of special lighting effects. IMHO, it’s a quantum leap in Pinball lighting, like nothing ever done before. After a few games of GnR, all my Sterns look barren and plain, honestly. Hoping Stern starts to catchup in this area.
Thanks.

Quoted from Rarehero:

It's superficial, but the thing that turns me off of GNR is right when you hit the start button. You don't get a hit GNR song to send you into gameplay...it's just some generic rock. I guess it's Slash, but still...when you hit start on DE GNR, you're greeted with Welcome to the Jungle. That makes me happy & pumped to play. I don't like having to play to non-GNR music and only get some when starting a mode. Meanwhile, with Rush...I hit start, instant happiness as I can listen to any of my favorites from the jump.

Quoted from Raiders36:

Love the new code. Keeps getting better.
Has anyone had a ball get stuck to the R of the time machine ramp when it is in the up position. During a multiball I have had a ball somehow make it up in the little dead area and dont realize it until the ramp is trying to go down but the ball prevents it. Maybe a small mode in the area would help. It has to be a freak thing as only with multiballs do I ever get it stuck but there all a lot of multiballs.

Quoted from misterschu:

This sounds like a pitch or lean issue on the game setup, it's not supposed to do that. I would check your pitch and lean with a digital level if you have access to one, you can't always trust the bubble level in the plunger lane. you can also check lean by just releasing a ball manually down the an open part of the playfield, but that's obviously less accurate.

Quoted from zebpin61:

I installed the gameroommods yesterday - the time machine and dice over each scoop - look very good. I'm very pleased with both. Also picked up the pinmonk insert color films to help with mode clarity. Other than that, I don't plan to mod RUSH much more. It already seems visually busy/exciting for me. Expression lighting is high on my list and then I think I'm done. Everybody has their own preferences, I a bit of a minimalist on RUSH: I do so enjoy this game!

Quoted from Maken:

Top left portion of the LCD will give you progress updates on your modes as you play. Limelight, for example, shows your % as you make the shots.

Quoted from konjurer:

Has anyone removed the Stern scoop protector fix in order to install a NinjaCamp protector? Was it difficult to remove?
I had purchased a NinjaCamp protector before I received my Rush Pro. Trying to determine if it's worth the time and how much effort it would take to remove the black bumpers and put in the NinjaCamp.

Quoted from Av8:

That helped. Found the burnt chip and connector on Node 10 board. I contacted Stern who told me to contacted my distributor for a warranty replacement of Node 10. This Rush LE only has 100 plays on it. [quoted image][quoted image]

Quoted from j_m_:

the only downside to the v3 stern fix that I can see is that you have to hit the ball directly into the lower scoop due to the bumper protectors. with the original design (just the metal cliffy-style scoop protection), you could roll a ball into the scoop from either side.
the ninja protector still allows the lower scoop to function the way that the game was originally designed and intended to play

Quoted from GreenMachine19:

Got to play Rush at Pintastic. Couldn't hear the music very well in the show environment. Gameplay was amazing. Better than Mando. Better than Godzilla. Better than Toy Story. To me, it won the show as far as best overall pinball experience. I'm not a music pin guy but I would consider this as my first one. I kept getting drawn back to it not matter what else I played. Have to go with the premium but the pro was a ton of fun also.

Quoted from Wicked-Flip:

You might think so and re re-reading my post it does seem like im super negative about the machine. I'm really not. This game is challenging me. It's the hardest game I've ever had. It's fast. Hard to get control. Hard to get the ball on the flipper I want (it's a pro so no VUK. Dead end returns the ball in a chaotic random way). It drains like there are magnets in the outlines. The left ramp rejects 9 of ten shots. Ect.
In an hour of play I'll have a bunch of games between 3 and 20 million then one great run between 100 and 300m. If I complete one mode it's a big deal. Haha. Full disclosure, I never death save. My games are on carpet and they don't slide at all.
I can get through Elviras house. Addams Mansion. This is the way on Mando. I used to crush my fish tales before I got rid of it. This Rush, though. It's kicking me in the balls. I'm making up new swear words every game but I keep pressing start and going again and again. Lol. Masochist!
I spent an hour trying to backhand that spinner yesterday. I managed to hit the right post at the bottom of the TM ramp a bunch but I couldn't hit the spinner lane. I checked the level and it's spot on. I dunno. The soul of my game is evil

Quoted from Animal:

I don't care, but the point is, it is not professional.

Quoted from DakotaMike:

I can confirm that my Rush Premium is not registering the loop shot most of the time. I'm going to start with the airball preventer and go from there with solutions as needed.
This seems to be a problem on most Rush games produced. Hard to believe they didn't catch this in the pre-production process.

Quoted from Boslaw:

Got a good look at my playfield today and noticed what looks like planking. Is this normal or something I should be contacting my dealer about? This is my first NIB. It doesn't look quite this bad in person, and it's relatively smooth, although I can feel the ridges in some spots and I can definitely see it depending on the light and angle.
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Quoted from Fussa71:

I’m not sure if this issue has been addressed here, but on a fast shot up the Rush ramp (when diverting to the left) the ball is flying of the left ramp and onto the playfield. Could be a leveling issue.
Anyone else deal with this?

Quoted from wcbrandes:

anyone have the right hand side pop bumper stick down? Have not taken a good look at it yet but thought perhaps an inherent problem mentioned somewhere before? cheers

Quoted from Taygeta:

Rush is a ways out. Theyre making expression kits for the final Zeppelin run this fall. We're after that. Either end of year or 2023

Quoted from swampfire:

It seems like the longer I’m away from it, the more Rush rewards me with great gameplay. I was 2 shots away from Cygnus X-1 last night, left with 450M but I was sweaty and happy.

Quoted from Animal:

You have to take that with a grain of salt. No way GnR is better, let alone MB for that matter.

Quoted from PoMC:

Thanks for letting me know that ads can be disabled.
I’m not touchy, just rubs me the wrong way when someone acts like I can’t have an opinion and then are white knighting For a stranger. If the guy who made the mod sees my comments and takes offense, then he’s the only one that really should even care.
Seems like you’re touchy because you bought the tacky mod and someone’s not patting you on the back saying it looks fantastic.

Quoted from Kkoss24:

Anyone else having a hard time post passing from the right flipper ?

Quoted from Maken:

You should still be able to pass it over, but it's more of a bash it back into the inlane and then ski pass it over to the left type of deal.

Quoted from VisitorQ:

What is up with quality of games of late? It seems like there are countless Rush and Godzilla machines coming into peoples homes with problems. I see over in the Godzilla thread some people are remarking about thin clear coat...

Quoted from HEAD_boss_HOG:

godzilla as a theme is terrible and dated, but that doesnt take away from the exceptional playfield design and layout for the pure pinball player.

Quoted from etr104:

lol That certainly works, as does waiting for the ball search if you don't have a multiball on the go. But still, I'd like to know what I can do to solve this.

Quoted from CrashJT:

Look at standard option #79 to turn off the tilt when the coin door is open. Will help you clear a lot of stuck balls without removing the bar and glass.
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Quoted from onemilemore:

I believe the rationale is that ops might not want people being able to tilt the machine to clear a stuck ball, so it's left as an adjustment for people to choose how they want to handle it.

Quoted from Fezmid:

I personally love physical ball locks so I think it's worth doing the fix sooner rather than later.

Quoted from CrashJT:

I like the subway ball lock. This is the only pin that shoots 2 balls simultaneously. If you turn it off, you'll miss that feature. The premium/le have 2 Extra kickers, an opto and a switch to support this one-of-a-kind feature (that you paid for). Why even consider turning it off? Why not do the install? You'll be fine. Watch the video Stern's John Borg did. Read the manual. Give yourself 4 hours so you're not rushed, although it will likely take much less. One other tip, whenever you go to screw in any screws into the playfield, always put them into the existing hole and slowly turn them backwards (out) until they rise and pop into place, then slowly turn them clockwise to screw them in. This allows the thread of the screw to align with the previously cut threads. Same goes with screwing screws into the plastic opto that you'll have to screw into.

Quoted from Hayfarmer:

First, it's an easy swap to do and a good time to mylar the scoops. Really all the lock does is eject both balls at once, I believe, so not necessary to have it turned on if you don't want. I'd definitely do the ninja and mylar when you decide to tho,,

Quoted from parsonsaj:

I am getting the dreaded “Operator Alert: Side Scoop Device Malfunction” today after taking things apart to replace the scoop protector. I had this problem a couple weeks ago and Stern said they were sending a replacement switch, but after I put everything back together this happened.
If I go into switch test both the opto and the switch register as they should, with finger pressure or a ball. However if I go into the Rush-specific Diana and pick “side scoop” it seems to always think a ball is there even when it isn’t. Seems like the switch might be stuck closed???
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Quoted from benime:

Easy fix, had to do this on my Rush too after pulling the scoops to add protectors, change the switch, etc. Whoever put my machine together stripped a number of them.
Take some bamboo skewers, put two or three in the offending screw hole, use some side snips to cut them flush, and then use some super glue (I prefer gorilla super glue) to bond them. Wait an hour and you should be good to go.

Quoted from kbenson13:

I have the same issues and am hopeful someone has some suggestions on how to mitigate this. It's super frustrating when the gate sticks and my shot rejects. I have a hard enough time making that shot!

Quoted from Wicked-Flip:

I've typed up dozens of rants then deleted them before posting because I like to stay as positive as possible. Not easy in the current enviornment of inflated prices and low quality.
Truth is Stern (JJP too) is really dropping the ball a lot. I won't put the Rush Pro I have on location bc I haven't been able to go 25 consecutive plays without taking the glass off to fetch a stuck ball. I've had to dissemble and adjust major components to get them working. The upper parts of the PF are a mess of bad geometry.
The code is fun. The layout concept is excellent. The assembled product is just not great.
It's shouting at the rain. Maybe Stern will one day hear us and put more care into the games before boxing them up and stamping them done.
Probably not, though.

Quoted from parsonsaj:

Yeah that thought crossed my mind... since it WAS a new hole that had to be created... so I completely took that red screw out (temporarily) and left that side of the bracket unattached, and nothing changed with this behavior. While I was at it I also loosened up some of the other wood screws on the switch side to see if any of them would effect any change and none of that helped either.
I KNOW that this is a self-induced problem because what used to happen is that this was an intermittent problem where the game would occasionally be unaware of a ball in the scoop, but I didn't get the operator alert. It's only since I removed the whole assembly to put in the NC scoop protector that it has become a 100% persistent problem.
When I have the whole assembly out of the game and still cabled, I can feel one of the coils pulse (but not fire) 8 or 10 times immediately before the operator alert comes on the screen. If I remove the switch from the assembly (but still have it plugged in) I never feel this pulsing happen and the game starts normally.

Quoted from aamauzy:

All we know is that Stern likes making money, and they know how to do it - if they could sell RUSH EL kits right now and turn the profit one can assume they make from a couple LED strips, art, and a node 2 board, they absolutely would.

Quoted from kmad:

I need some help. My right flipper has started sticking after about 2000 plays. Went to order new coil stops and sleeves before i start taking it apart and saw conflicting part numbers/sizes on the coils sleeves. Also any recommendations on best quality. I was looking at Pinball life and Marco Everything Pinball.

Quoted from pete_d:

But until that happens, they shouldn't be making rules tweaks that do that. There's nothing fundamentally wrong with the rules tweak, but it needs to wait to happen until Stern's got all the machines working properly.
(Unless of course their intent is to drive business to the third-party mod makers who are profiting from Stern's error. I doubt that's the case. I doubt Stern cares one way or the other about those businesses. But that's the only reason I can see that would logically justify Stern's choice to make this rule change now before they've got the machine fixed.)

Quoted from pete_d:

The problem for me is the assumption that all the owners with defective machines are just going to go to the third-party commerce sources for a fix, with Stern doing nothing more than absolving themselves of any responsibility on the matter.
And for what it's worth, I do have a reply via my distributor directly from Stern saying that they are aware of the problem and that their "engineering team is looking into a fix". Now, that may very well be slimy corporate double-speak for "don't hold your breath". But I'd like to think they can be taken at their word and they will eventually provide support to those with affected machines. And given that, I don't think it's asking too much for them to hold off on changes to the software that make the shot more important than it already is (it's bad enough that it's how to increase the bonus multiplier) until they actually do have a fix available to owners.
I can be plenty patient waiting for Stern to address the issue, and IMHO it's reasonable to expect the software team to be at least as patient about it as I am being.

Quoted from pete_d:

Looking at the two philosophies, the main advantage I can see for limiting specific modes to specific shots would be to give the player an opportunity to have at least one or two modes they can easily complete, i.e. the ones that have the shots that are easier for them. And I'd agree that from an accessibility point of view, there's some value in that.

Quoted from Apollo18:

I know, I keep considering it
But then have to move/sell my Premium.
And geographically Canada is a smaller/tougher/different market than the USA hotspots. Then added $ exchange rate, border cross etc.
Seems either you get an LE on list at MSRP or get thrown to the flippers… which in CAD$ It’s just not even remotely fun lol
Thnx for the idea tho. Believe me I’ve been contemplating it for a while.
I love this pin That much. It’s something very special and “underrated” as you said.
If I could pull off the change, I’d do it.

Quoted from 80sMan:

Can someone please start a new thread entitled, "Hey Stern where the heck is the Topper & more importantly Expression lighting!" ?!

Quoted from Dobler:

So I’d say first of all that the two machines go great together so definitely go for it! After just having bought my GnR LE I just couldn’t make a Rush Premium or LE happen so I got a Pro. I love this machine so much that I really want to upgrade to a Premium or LE, but I just don’t see it happening, and to be honest I really don’t feel like I’m missing much (unlike most Stern Pros). I do intend to get expression lighting, topper, and a shaker motor and I will still be ahead plenty of $$. I like the LE art package better and resale value is better so if I had the budget I’d get that. I ordered on release day and if I had known how much I would like the game (I bought it for the theme) I probably would have tried harder to find a way to make a Premium work, but I’m still very happy with my Pro. Rush is by far my favorite shooter of all time and I hate to admit it but I rarely play GnR now.
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Quoted from Shadrac:

I think to trade my Tron for a Rush. Playfield is very similar (mirrored Xmen sort of). I have no doubt about flow, but i have about code. I love Tron because the code is simple but very addictive, shallow but fun. But how is the Rush code? I had a BK Pro whith same programmer (Sexton) and i think the code sucks.

Quoted from cooked71:

ACDC and Met are still 2 of the greatest games of all time. I didn’t realize LFS was involved with Kiss?

Quoted from H3XAG0N:

My upper scoop protector has some weird discoloration in spots. Not sure if this is dents or corrosion? Is Ninjacamp still considered the best protector available? Has anyone here had the stern v3 fix on for a while before swapping? Any shot geometry changes?
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Quoted from Bill2112Rush:

“Hi, my name is Bill and I’m suffering from Node 10 failure”.
*sigh*
Not really understanding any of this, is there something I did to cause the board to fry? Played too many games in a row? Left the machine on too long? Powered up/down incorrectly?
A little background: it’s got the most recent software update and about 1000 plays. No mods (other than the NC loop and plunger correctors).
Mid game, the center ramp wouldn’t come up. Powered it down and saw the red warning.
Sure enough:
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This is the board number:
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My distributor is working with me to get a replacement. Anybody have insight as to what causes it or how to prevent it?

Quoted from orangedude71:

there was something in the newest software update that addressed something on the clock. I bet they hoped that this would address this, but clearly its not. I just got my node 10 board two days ago after waiting for almost 3 months. I have chosen to disconnect the clock for now and run it only with the ramp for a few weeks. If i lose another node 10 board now, it would most likely be the ramp motor. If after i plug in the clock, and then the node 10 board goes, ill be asking for a new clock motor. Thats how im handling it.. Also.. no mods for me other than playfield protector

Quoted from Burley9043:

I believe that this has been mentioned in previous threads but not directly addressed. I own an IMDN Prem (it's not leaving) and thinking of adding a Rush Pro. I have played one on location and have really enjoyed it (and I am a Rush fan), but I worry that once I own it and the new game exploration period is over that I will find it to be just a shooter similar to IMDN but not as good and will want to move it. I prefer to buy thinking a game is a keeper, so I am reaching out to those of you who own both games or who have played both extensively to ask your opinion about having both in your home lineup.

Quoted from cooked71:

Which Pinwoofer setup do I need for the LE? Just the amp? Or the whole kit?

Quoted from Ceckitti:

Ordered the PinDefender shooter lane protector from Pinhead mods on here (pinside). Wanted to share the pics of how well the purple goes with the colors on the game.
Product works great too. And was an easy 5 minute install. Not bad for $15.00.
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Quoted from arcyallen:

The way I see it is the upgraded speakers will absolutely sound better. Costing 5% of what the whole machine cost, would it add 5% more enjoyment? Maybe, but not likely for me.
I've had killer audio systems at home and in my car, and this is what I've come to realize: Once you appreciate and get used to something, you care an awful lot less about upgrading it. I don't imagine people who have only heard a modern stock pin saying "Man, this really needs to sound better." Just like how practically nobody bought a pin and thought "Man, you know what this needs? Something on top of the backbox." without first seeing toppers. I don't fault anyone for wanting those things, but the fact that they're hyped up and normalized in our circles absolutely effects our impressions of them. For me, the only real exception is bass you can feel. During every game of a bass-heavy pin (Heist and Halloween come to mind), I appreciate it. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if everyone's upgraded sound slowly reverted back to stock over time, few would notice.