I love this game, I'm getting a premium.

With that said, why the heck are they shipping it with the outlanes set to the easiest setting? I'm surprised a ball can even exit the outlanes like this. It's a total baby game.

And this is on top of the fact that there's virtual ball saves you can earn for the outlanes. Not to mention a generous amount of extra balls the game hands you.

Listen, I get you can move the posts, but that's bit of a PIA. And I see posts of people with their big scores, but seriously, this game has got to be the easiest set-up game Stern has ever shipped.

Probably. It looks terrible.

It's not like this has been used on other games. People expect a normal scoop protector. This should be the easiest part of the game.

Hell, they have a cool moving clock that syncs and changes during gameplay, yet can't make a fucking scoop protector.

How long before Stern decides their "fix" is to never put scoops on a game?

Pro owners that received a NIB game made within the last two months: Where are the outlane posts located?

I know originally they were on a more difficult setting than the LE/Premium. I'm wondering if they are now manufacturing it on the easy setting like the LE/Premium.

I'm so sorry sir, I didn't realize there was a list of approved questions that I'm allowed to ask here, despite being on Pinside for 11 years.

I'll also be sure to provide a thorough reason for any question I ask in the future.

Got my Premium on Friday.

This may be the first time I review a pinball machine and give it 10/10. Just amazing.

They're one of our sponsors, so trust me, I'm all over that

I'm getting rejects from the spinner gate, maybe 40% of the time. My game is pitched between 6.5 - 6.7, depending where measured.

Anyone have this problem and have a fix?

Yea, it only seems to happen on really fast, clean shots. Slow shots, no problem.

I try to avoid ever having to change the flipper strength. I'd sooner raise the pitch if that helps, but hopefully there's a more elegant solution.

I sent a message to NinjaCamp Mods to see if he wants to rescue us again.

Don't take this the wrong way, but I'm happy you're also having this issue on your machine

I have to imagine this game is selling surprisingly well, and will continue to do so. It would be an awesome "Thank You to our fans!" if they included that as a bonus track for the midnight madness mode, that's then unlocked once you've played it once. That song fits in perfect with the theme.

It's necessary if you want to play the game the way Borg originally designed it. If you don't care about that, then no need to swap.

On my game, a plunge, depending on strength, sometimes tends to hit the spinner loop rail guide, rather than wanting to go smoothly around the orbit. This only really happens when I try the skill shot plunge and use too much force on the plunge, but not enough to make it go smoothly around the orbit.

Would Ninja's shooter lane mod fix this?

LOL, I love it

I posted this before, but thought the Ninja Camp mod would solve it, and since it didn't, I'll try posting again to see if anyone has had this issue.

When I do a full plunge, or auto plunge, roughly 60% of the time the ball gets hung up by hitting the exit side of the spinner shot. In other words, it hits that area, deadens, and drops to the upper flipper. It's nice that my game is trying to help me even more with the skill shot, but ultimately it's annoying as it shouldn't be doing this.

I tried the Ninja mod in the shooter lane, but that had no effect. I think b/c that's designed for "shooter lane rattle" or whatever, but that doesn't seem to be my issue. The ball seems to move through the shooter lane smoothly. The only issue is when it exits it and hits that area I described above, rather than smoothly going around the orbit.

It's also not the plunger itself, as the auto plunge has the same effect.

Ultimately, I think I'll have to set up a slow-mo video of it, but before I go through that hassle, I figured I'd check to see if anyone else has and solved this issue, thanks!

This may be it. Sometimes a right orbit shot isn't clean either.

So you're thinking I should bend that spinner rail guide a bit inwards towards the playfield, so it doesn't protrude as much?

Weird.... Take a look at my pic. That's what it's hitting (I can even see ball marks on it).

I can't even see that piece in your pic!

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Thanks for the pic!

I think I'll have to follow through on the slow-mo capture to see exactly what's going on in my game...

I'll take a pic of the circled area on mine and will post shortly.

Not the greatest pic, but I'm struggling to see any issues. What do you guys think?

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Actually, it looks like the rail is extending out farther in mine pic, after it exits the shooter lane!

1) Should I "fix" this?
2) If so, what's the best method?

I'm talking about the far right rail guide. You can see on yours, how it's further away from the black painted outline. Mine pretty much hugs it. So there's more room to the far right on yours, then on mine.

Hopefully that makes sense.

Here's some vids I took. I can try for different angles if it's not helpful:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KYLqWqdC6YiISJIhJ_Rk_Vv0kQF6zJTd/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KaAizB-0j6lB6ZEoAI1Vdk9NGXFVrnCU/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KfTh1kGwmhr58uWdPoTSky-a7_pHt17D/view?usp=sharing

Hopefully you guys will catch something that I'm missing...

I was wondering about the screw. It super tight and seems OK, but I can try to back it out then tighten again. I'd be so lucky if it's just that.

You should be able to slow-mo the videos in the settings tool....when I look at it, it does turn sharp left.

Thanks for taking a look!

I screwed the shooter ramp down *maybe* a little lower and removed the Ninja Camp mod. *Seems* to be a little better. That may be as good as it gets for me.

Stupid drum clock isn't working right.

Started a game and it was at 2:59ish. Thought that was odd, so I paid attention to it. Wouldn't move when pops were hit.

So I go into test, and I can get it moving through diagnostics. However, when I try to adjust it, it seems to stutter around 2:59. Like, I can get it to move to 3pm by adjusting the bias, but when it moves through the test on it's own, it gets hung up there. Now the bias is maxed out at "10", and the hand is sitting around 2:55pm, when it should be 3pm.

I'm at a loss....

Thank you, I'll check it out!

I'm guessing this may be the case as I installed PinWoofer and the bass may have shaken it loose. Bass is pretty damn legit

So for my clock issue, I don't *think* it's a bad connection...

First, my game is 1 minute off, and using the offset in diagnostics, any changes really don't stick, it keeps wanting to be one minute behind. I can go into more detail on that later, but here's the thing...

I tried going into diagnostics to adjust the time. It was saying that the clock was moving to zero position, but nothing happened. I couldn't adjust it, I couldn't hit buttons to make it move, etc.

So I go to start a game. Clock moves to the 2:59pm position. I hit pop bumpers, clock doesn't move. I turn the game off and back on, the clock moves. Start up a game, clock is moving correctly when I hit the pop bumpers (albeit, still a minute behind).

This is the 2nd time I was able to fix the stuck clock by turning the game off then back on. So what's the deal with that?

So, I learned that the clock not moving is a bug in the current code. This is good news, as at least it's not a mechanical issue.

I do have the issue where the clock is wrong by one minute and no matter how I adjust the bias, it still goes back to being wrong by one minute. This is one of those small things that will drive me nuts.

Anyone figure out how to solve that issue?