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Quoted from John-Floyd:It's a must that I have one for every game I own. Love the look of these banners - they look great when you use those velcro 3M strip wall hangers.
I love the banners but I have too many machines and not enough wall to hang them.
Quoted from flynnibus:Compared with another example tonight. This game has about 560 balls played on it.
This one has a better front edge… not as stepped, but you can see it a bit in the other edges. I didn’t look close enough when setup to know if it’s rounding with use… or just a better cut.
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The side scoop has just a tad of lifting on one side… but isn’t impacting play at all
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This looks like hell. And it looks like hell where the ball would never touch.
Quoted from kool1:Anyone else getting balls stuck on the left side ramp drop to flipper?
I have had to pull the glass twice to fix this.
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Undo the lock nut and move the ramp slightly. Have this issue with new sterns all the time.
Quoted from JeepSnob:Any suggestions on where to get the mylar folks are talking about as a temp fix? Does it come off cleanly later once a final fix is provided or is it stuck forever?
Marco has it in sheets that you cut to size.. I've had no issue removing later on. I use this on my shooter lanes until the cliffy's come. I think some say to apply wax first for easier removal.
Quoted from bouche03:Unfortunately I'm on my own today so no help with getting legs on etc so might be staying in the box for a bit
If there is a will....there is a way! Look at it as a challenge! I will check back in an hour to see if you are done.
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Very cool of you to post pics so quickly. Very interesting fix on that scoop.
If you are able to get it out, does the bolt looks stripped at all? If you can get it out, it may be good to get a tap and put it through to clean up the threads. I've had to do this on a number of machines (usually older ones)
Quoted from Hayfarmer:So, try putting it in first, take the top one all the way out. It's just an alignment issue, never run the first one all the way tight. Put both in loosely and snug evenly
Agreed. Don't be afraid to push that puppy a little bit and drive it in. I've had to do this too if it was a little misaligned but if that doesn't work then pull up the Playfield and have a look.
Quoted from thekaiser82:Maybe today…
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If they didn't call for appointment, it likely won't happen. Ask me how I know. They just called and told me Monday. I said, "Great, when can I pick it up?". They are calling Stern now for approval. They must hate pinball guys. We are like kids on Christmas morning.
Edit: Haha...I just saw the post above about Christmas eve.....great minds think alike!
Quoted from prl867:I volunteer at a place that operates a Rush Pro model. On the 35th game, the scoop metal crane buckled and prevented the ball from entering.
One of our techs did a deep dive and attempted to secure it. On about the 90th game, it buckled again.
In my humblest of opinions, this is the worst design flaw to come out of a Stern game since the reels and power supply issues in Whoa Nellie.[quoted image]
Oh crap. What's this issue with Whoa Nellie about? I have a Primus! Hope its resolved now!
Quoted from SkyKing2301:More pics by request, showing the sides of the lower scoop, focused the pics on the inner edge of the wood. For those not following, this is on an LE with 104 plays.
Im definitely seeing wear on the wood, more on the right side than left. I can't see the condition of the PF underneath, it's not visible around the inner edge because of the metal shape (remember the tabs on the Pro, I think these are the same piece but with the tabs cut off).
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PF around the outer edge of the protector appears to be intact. White lines you see in these pics along the edges are reflections/glare. I dont know the condition underneath as I have not removed it.
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Looks like the protector is bent up as its not secure in the front. Perhaps needs some double stick tape in the front?
Quoted from PsychoPsonic:GNR LE finally lands here tomorrow after ordering in Dec 2020. That's gonna help distract, admittedly...
Insane! I can't believe you had been waiting that long.
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OK thats it. I'm not playing any more games. I just played my FIRST game and then stopped to look here. Ouch! Question.....I'm waiting on the code update.....and set it to lock all balls in the scoops but now when I drain, it goes in to ball search until it kicks it back out. Is this a bug in the original code?
Can someone confirm.....when you have the scoops set up to hold the ball in the lock, and then you drain, does it go through ball search before spitting the ball back out of the lock?
Quoted from TinyBlackDog:I haven’t seen that happen, but have only played about 6 games since I enabled the right scoop lock. Not sure I’ve drained with a ball in the lock - I’ve generally started Far Cry on the same ball, or some other multiball that does eject the locked ball. I’ll take a closer look tomorrow. Got plans this evening.
Thanks. I stink but when I got to multiba all was fine. But if someone can confirm I would appreciate it. I’m on latest code.
Quoted from flynnibus:The LE has a functioning protector- I wouldn’t tell anyone to take it off. The first run pros are in different boat.
Your scoop is fine. You are always going to get the wood showing some contact like that unless it has a mantis style protector. What matters is when the impact area starts becoming a crater.
I do hope the updated protector includes the side coverage because the game does wear the hole on both the left and right side of the scoop. The le stopgap doesn’t… but we are told it is not the final iteration.
If the wood is still exposed after the final fix from Stern, I will put a thin coat of clear 2 part epoxy inside to protect it. I've done this on other machines and it worked pretty well.
I love the game. I do need to dial in the sound...doesn't sound great yet. Have no clue what I"m doing but I feel like that is how Rush is supposed to be. I have no idea what most of their lyrics or art reference are about. Its fitting! I'm also trying to avoid the scoop but others in my family play and wack it every time. At the end of their game I'm like, "ok lets play a different game I see some dirt on the plalyfield I'd like to clean up". I don't like being like that but I'm totally babying this game right now due to the scoop.
Quoted from Rarehero:Now that I have my music trilogy (AC/DC, Met, Rush), I’m debating whether to put them together or keep them in separate spots. Visually I think they’ll look cool together - but I feel like if all 3 are being played at once, all that competing music becomes an issue.
I go music pin every other for this very reason. Love how they look together but its a lot of music when played next to each other.
Quoted from beelzeboob:I used a new razor for the majority of the goo, then Windex took care of the rest.
And yeah...that tape goo pisses me off every time I get a game. Use painters tape, maybe?
Painters tape may peel off.....they should just put it inside the cabinet. I had a lot of goo on the playfield glass as well from that blue wrap.
Quoted from PKingRoch:Sorry about that. I have a special edition coming and I want those for it.
Pro or Premium I think you mean.
I'm seeing some really long game times although not with a hole lot of points as I have no clue what I'm doing yet. I'm finding the out lanes likely need to be adjusted. The stock position (easiest) does not see a lot of action. That's not something I usually complain about but I may move them to the middle at least.
Quoted from PinMonk:I just don't like the way they play, the way they haze up and can bubble, and if you keep the playfield waxed, you're fine without them. It reminds me of grandma's couches with the plastic on them.
DSC_0739-e1517412218278-1024x632 (resized).jpgIf someone gets sound that’s real good please post the settings. The more I play with it the more I think it sounds good and then I come back the next day and it sounds like garbage. lol.
Quoted from pinballjah:Thoughts on the Gold Vein used on the Hobbit? I think that would look sharp![quoted image]
I have this on my Maiden. Here is an example.
35101B1C-CC73-42E7-B151-8611D158259F (resized).jpegI found the gold vein here and had it done by Steve.
By the way.... I have Hobbit as well. Only difference really is that Hobbit has a clear coat on top as it looks much more glossy.
Quoted from HemiOrange09:I had a few customers ask me about that powder coating color change that would make the RISH LE pop more... After looking at lots and lots of colors. I came up with this one for a customer's RUSH LE and added some more of my Refinery upgrades to it. This is Pinball Refinery edition #1.
I am more than happy to powder coat anyone's LE to this color. I strip all of the armor raw metal and start fresh. Just PMe if you're interested in having yours done.
Thanks,
Steve
Mi Pinball Refinery
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This is sweet. Very nice and how it should have come.
Quoted from Pinplayer1967:Don’t forget the shaker motor and real knocker kit. If you want the expression lighting kit, get one on order from your distro as well as topper.
Is it possible to order the topper now before its been released?
Quoted from jsm174:#352 found its home after a 15 year "dream" theme wait!
(Actually glad it took that long considering all the advances in pinball tech.)
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Quick question if someone can please check and answer. Roughly how far back is the plunger tip from the edge of the auto plunger?
I can't seem to manually plunge the ball with any power. It's bad enough that I've been using the auto plunger all the time.
Compared to Transformers, it seems much further back:
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Every damn time I see a Pin moved to the lift gate from the truck I start to sweat that its going to fall off.....
I had to adjust the contacts on the switches of my slings. Ball was hitting one of them pretty hard and it wasn't firing.
Still have only played about 15 games because I'm holding out for the final scoop fix. 
I know...... I have issues....
Did the new scoop fix erasers need to be that thick? I think if it was the usual thickness it wouldn't look too bad.
Quoted from Flypie:Yes it is an actual lock. In the settings it looks like you can tell it to keep the balls until multi ball starts. It defaults to just a virtual lock. I was kinda wondering why it defaults this way? Issues maybe? I haven’t tried it as a physical lock yet.
Its not properly coded yet I believe. I have mine as a physical lock and it goes in to ball search at times. Others have stated the same.
Quoted from gandamack:Just wondering if this title is the Pontiac Aztek of Stern machines?
It sure isn't as ugly. lol
Quoted from swampfire:I have physical locks enabled and gotten Far Cry MB dozens of times without a ball search. Very cool that the Pre/LE ejects balls from both scoops.
I've only had the problem when 1 ball locks and then I drain BEFORE Far Cry MB. Will have to check in to this more if others are not reporting the same issue.
Quoted from J-drum11:Curious question to long time pinball owners.
Has anyone ever put a thin coat of water based polyurethane or tried a thin coat of clear flex seal (liquid rubber)
On the inner non painted wood parts of a scoop?
I have used clear 2 part epoxy on exposed bare wood. I have not done this to Rush but I used it on the Hobbit where the wood started to get eaten up.
Quoted from PinMonk:Looks like it's filling part of a knot. I get it that wood is imperfect, especially when you're cost reducing to crappier quality as Stern has continued to do, but the fact that they couldn't be bothered to sand it flat was the part that irritated me.
I agree that is annoying and sloppy. If applied right it wouldn't have needed sanding.
Go back to this post if you didn't see it.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/the-official-rush-owners-club-1/page/41#post-6812805
Quoted from Hayfarmer:Can you put up a few more pics of your game please? Would love to seecan overhead of the rails and lockdown bar. Thx
Quoted from gandamack:Hopefully, I have a premium arriving in May or June. Question: if you could go back in time and do something protection-wise before your first play, would you? I mean would you replace the scoops with Ninja and lay mylar in the scoop area? I read through what to do with the game settings, but my concern is doing some type of preventative work before I let the ball fly. Am I being over-cautious or should I just play and do the eventual repairs as they come? If I do some type of preventative repair before playing, what exactly do you recommend?
Thank you
Yes, I would definitely protect before the first flip if possible and always turn down the coil power for the ball load to shooter lane. Cliffy or Ninja for sure although you may get the rubber sandwich fix on your premium.
Quoted from Reality_Studio:Just installed the Ninja replacement scoop protectors, took about 40 minutes start to finish. Played a bunch of games, they seem to work really well! I'm happy that the original angles of the game are kept in tact, so the ball can bounce off the RUSH targets into the lower scoop, etc, as originally designed which is very nice. I think this will hold up for me at home just fine. I'll still get the Stern protector once they offer it in case a future owner wants it but I'm not installing it, gonna keep this one on. Thanks for making this!
One thing, I think there may be a typo in the instructions. Regarding the screws circled in yellow, it first says:
"Premium/LE: You have an extra plate that needs to be loosened to remove the protector.
Back out the screws shown in yellow about 1/8”."
Then later it says:
"Premium/Pro: Once your protectors are removed, go back to the yellow highlighted screws you loosened in the
previous step and tighten them back down. The new protector will sit under the plate."
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Protector installed. Life is good. The install went fine....although I always miss stuff when I read directions and took out all the screws I was supposed to just loosen. No biggie though to put back. So great to play and not worry anymore. I did not keep the fork as I felt it tore up my balls
Quoted from beelzeboob:I just ordered two Ninja sets (one for me and the guy I pay to be my friend). If these things aren't as good as you guys made it sound, I know where to find you.
and if we are right, you still know where to find us and we will appreciate the free beer you give us.
Quoted from mbrave77:Ugh. Im in the middle of installing my ninja scoop on my LE. Was putting posts back in. Dropped tool….first time ive ever messed up a playfield. Chipped a small area near the inner ramp. You wont be able to see it from the players perspective, but i know its there. Ugh. Im an idiot. I put a small piece of mylar on it. I guess thats all i can do?
We've all been there. Don't sweat it. In just a few days you won't care that much. Play it and forget it.
Quoted from the_carmanizer:I discovered that my ceiling is too low to tilt the playfield onto the back of the machine. The wife and I had to work in tandem with one another - one holding the playfield up while the other removed/installed the parts. What an ordeal. If anyone knows of work-arounds with the ceiling issue please let me know. The only option I can think of is a hydraulic table (remove legs and lower machine). I was hoping to buy Expression Lighting when it's available, but I don't know how I'm going to possibly remove the playfield.
I usually wedge a 3-4 foot long piece of 2x4 between the cash box and the rail under the playfield in this situation. I have an issue where framing around duct work in my basement won't allow the playfield to lift all the way for a few of my machines. Just be really really careful it is secure.
Quoted from Hayfarmer:Connect or USB? Really, USB is so much easier, downloaded in 25 minutes, transfer will take less than 10
I usually use Connect but perhaps I should use USB in the future.
Quoted from pete_d:Were you an early buyer? My recollection is that they had problems with the first iteration of the design, and the second iteration is more robust.
Whether you have the first or second iteration, I'm sure that if you contact NinjaCamp they will replace it for free. As near as I can tell from the posts I've seen here, they've been responsive to customer issues like this.
Yes I got mine fairly early on so perhaps that is the issue. Still waiting on a response.
Quoted from jid:Same. I reported my issue on a Fri and the new one was in my mailbox on Tues. they are aware of the issue on early ones and have been really good about shipping free replacements. During the holiday weekend they could be slower to response but PM them and I bet you’ll have a new one fast!
OK. Good to know. I will wait and see if I can get the replacement. I do have the Cliffy in waiting but really like the look of the NC.
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