Quoted from flynnibus:

$1600 topper… packaged like a $50 china knockoff
Broken in the box. I’m fairly certain they broken it putting it in the box and just said f it.
Packing inserts were not even installed correctly…
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Quoted from John_I:

Yeah the kit seems to come with an extra one. The instructions are hard to follow for the ferrite cores, but no matter how I looked at it there was an extra one.

Quoted from John_I:

Yeah the kit seems to come with an extra one. The instructions are hard to follow for the ferrite cores, but no matter how I looked at it there was an extra one.

Quoted from Hayfarmer:

Cmon stern, should of been done like this for $1700. Thanks to Space Coast Pinball, I now like our topper. Very easy 10 minute install. Well done John!!!!

Quoted from Vespula:

Interesting...
Did you know that Ray said DJ mixer plays full unedited versions of the songs whereas the concert ones during game play are edited and synched to the concert video.

Has anyone noticed this editing? I haven't. Maybe it's just subtle timing edits and not easily noticed.
I may start the song on Spotify on my phone in sync with the pin and see.

Quoted from epeabs:

I believe I ended up with a large and a small extra. Works good so far. I will double check to make sure i didn't miss one somewhere.

Quoted from CrashJT:

IMPORTANT Expression Light instruction. When you get yours, check the dip switches on the node board. It SHOULD be set for node 2 (on- off- on- on). Mine came all 4 off (node 8). Caused only left front led to light greenish (See pic). Secondary note also Not In the EL instructions... when you first boot the game, during startup it'll discover the new node at a lower software version. Make sure it mentions "Node 2" as is updating or your switches are wrong.
Adam at support asked me to check that and that fixed my problem!!!
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Quoted from whistlervan:

Which node board switch do you change? I have a Pro and the manual says board in the cabinet should be On Off On On, but I don't see any switches on the board in the cabinet.
I just installed me expression lights, but I get an update failed on the node board, please power cycle game, but it still does not work.

Quoted from whistlervan:

Which node board switch do you change? I have a Pro and the manual says board in the cabinet should be On Off On On, but I don't see any switches on the board in the cabinet.
I just installed me expression lights, but I get an update failed on the node board, please power cycle game, but it still does not work.

Quoted from Vespula:

The one that came with the EL
On off on on
If they are set correctly then make sure coin door is closed for 48v power to update. If it says node 8 failed update then your dip switches are set to all off like the picture below and needs to be node 2
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Quoted from whistlervan:

Thanks guys. Figured it out and deleted my post before y’all got to it. Appreciate everyone’s help as always
It’s awesome with the lights !!

Quoted from daveddd14:

Ding ding ding, that was it!
TY

Quoted from arcyallen:

I've received NIB pins from Stern with literally no packing on the bottom. Just wood against cardboard. It was a miracle that it arrived unscathed.

Quoted from Magicman:

That was my OP, but I'm a few days behind on this thread. Glad it helped. That physical knocker makes a hell of a "thwack!" doesn't it?

Quoted from Magicman:

Wow! This is inexcusable. Contrast that to the way CG packaged the topper that came with my MB(r) LE. It was in it's own box, which was strapped to the top of the game box. The box was protected by a wooden frame with a veneer finish! And inside the box, it was screwed to a wooden base to hold it in place. And it is an awesome topper, interactive with RGB LEDs and was included with the LE at a total cost of $9,500.
As far as I'm concerned, Rush plays great without their overpriced topper, and those of you that are buying it at this price point are sending a message to Stern that they can get away with overcharging for an item that should have been included already with an LE priced at over $11,000. They already did away with the goody bag on Rush, and the expression lights on the premium. Next they'll be charging for software updates. But if you just have to have it "because it's Rush, and it completes the game" and will buy it at any cost even if it's inferior quality in some ways and poorly packaged, just know that you are feeding the beast.

Quoted from Vespula:

That's awesome! I saw a write up about this on Google!

Quoted from Magicman:

Wow! This is inexcusable. Contrast that to the way CG packaged the topper that came with my MB(r) LE. It was in it's own box, which was strapped to the top of the game box. The box was protected by a wooden frame with a veneer finish! And inside the box, it was screwed to a wooden base to hold it in place. And it is an awesome topper, interactive with RGB LEDs and was included with the LE at a total cost of $9,500.
As far as I'm concerned, Rush plays great without their overpriced topper, and those of you that are buying it at this price point are sending a message to Stern that they can get away with overcharging for an item that should have been included already with an LE priced at over $11,000. They already did away with the goody bag on Rush, and the expression lights on the premium. Next they'll be charging for software updates. But if you just have to have it "because it's Rush, and it completes the game" and will buy it at any cost even if it's inferior quality in some ways and poorly packaged, just know that you are feeding the beast.

Quoted from cooked71:

Topper is undamaged and looks great in person - better than it shows in photos. Though Pinball Life added a lot of extra packaging. Without their stuff, the packaging was woeful and would have definitely been damaged getting over here.
Stock packaging the top half of the box is empty:
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Quoted from beelzeboob:

Does it help if I haven't bought their last three titles and probably won't buy their next one? There are only two themes I'm still interested in...

Quoted from Hayfarmer:

What are the titles? I'm waiting for Ozzy and Hendrix . Ozzy I hear will come, no one mentions Jimi tho

Quoted from j_m_:

some big rush related news was posted today by henderson brewery
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/toronto-airport-to-get-a-yyz-bar#post-7611162

Quoted from kool1:

The eagle has landed!

Quoted from Vespula:

Oh and topper achievements were activated today because I got extra ball and millions and never got achievements for those before today

Quoted from Vespula:

Owl?
Congrats!!!
Top this! (Pun}
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Quoted from yzfguy:

I've gotten them since I installed the topper.

Quoted from Vespula:

So strange. I got topper extra ball and millions previously but not awarded the achievement until tonight. Strange. Oh well

Quoted from Vespula:

I think the topper does feel like release code the lights and integration are not finished. What I mean is that it just doesn't do much. It looks the best that's it's going to look in attract mode.

Someone at Stern would be my hero If they would improve on the interaction and the lights of the topper while you're playing..

For example, when the ball drains or the game ends, It just goes dark and sits there. And there's plenty of other moments within the game with the topper could be participating along with the game, instead it just turns on and off. There are so many times I look up when the topper should be doing something and it's just sitting there. Such as The game counting all its bonuses, after a drain, or music's playing still on the outro, anytime something's going on with the game the topper should be doing something and it seems like it's sitting there off or completely dark most of the time.

Another idea I had was That maybe they ought to do the opposite with the album lights. Make them all on by default. And in attract mode each one goes off and back on in order. Also when you're playing all 10 albums are lit so it looks prettier and when you qualify an album the light goes out, or flashes. That would also help with the darkness issue.

The 4 award lights on the radio go out way too much and just makes it even darker. They should also stay on much more. Most of the time those radio lights should be on. Go ahead and flash them if you want to, make them more interactive, especially during the topper mystery or mystery graphic routine, it should be doing something special then for sure like fast blinking the radio lights or doing some cool album lighting pattern starting on the outside album blinking and moving in really quick back and forth like it' towards the radio dial award lights that are flashing very rapidly. So much more that can be done with the lights and patterns based on what's going on with the game on this topper.

The topper is just too dark too often and not doing anything during many moments of the game.
It's like it's only a programming is to do basically one thing turn on then off from a few trigger switches like pops. When a game ends ball drains or The game is going through its transitions it just goes dark and dead. Topper code Love is needed!!

overall it would be great if Theguyoverthere or someone at Stern would show some topper code love in the game and really make the integration more active special.
For the price you think it would and as it stands the capability is there so that could do so much more. Very little thought was put into the code integration with the moments of the game. As in none. Please Ray.

Someone at Stern just actually needs to play the game with the topper and watch how often it goes dead and look at all the opportunities where the topper should be part of the game, or going berserk, Plus consider my idea of lighting up all the albums by default and having them go dark as you qualify them So you're trying to turn them all off basically. I want to see those rush albums lit up.

Quoted from yzfguy:

I kinda disagree about the albums. The "wanting to see the albums lit up" is what makes completing them a little more fun. If they started out lit up, that goal would be gone.

Quoted from Vespula:

I think the topper does feel like release code the lights and integration are not finished. What I mean is that it just doesn't do much. It looks the best that's it's going to look in attract mode.

Someone at Stern would be my hero If they would improve on the interaction and the lights of the topper during different moments while you're playing.. There's so much more you could creatively do with the LEDs, the album lights the patterns of all those albums, etc.

For example, when the ball drains or the game ends, It just goes dark and sits there. And there's plenty of other moments within the game with the topper could be participating along with the game, instead it just turns on and off. There are so many times I look up when the topper should be doing something and it's just sitting there. Such as The freaking mystery award routine.... seriously it should be doing something special then for sure. What about The game counting all its bonuses, after a drain, That's right it's doing nothing Just sitting there. Nothing is really done with the album lights at all and those are one of the coolest features....or music's playing still on the outro, anytime something's going on with the game the topper should be doing something and it seems like it's sitting there off or completely dark most of the time. The album lights stay off way too much.

Another idea I had was That maybe they ought to do the opposite with the album lights. Make them all on by default. And in attract mode each one goes off and back on in order. Also when you're playing all 10 albums are lit so it looks prettier and when you qualify an album the light goes out, or flashes. That would also help with the darkness issue.

The 4 award lights on the radio go out way too much and just makes it even darker. They should also stay on much more. And have different patterns and flashing speeds. Choreographed with the different moments in the game. Most of the time those radio lights should be on. Go ahead and flash them if you want to, make them more interactive, especially during the topper mystery or mystery graphic routine, it should be doing something special then for sure like fast blinking the radio lights or doing some cool album lighting pattern starting on the outside album blinking and moving in really quick back and forth like it' towards the radio dial award lights that are flashing very rapidly. So much more that can be done with the lights and patterns based on what's going on with the game on this topper.

The topper is just too dark too often and not doing anything during many moments of the game.
It's like it's only a programming is to do basically one thing turn on then off from a few trigger switches like pops. When a game ends ball drains or The game is going through its transitions it just goes dark and dead. Topper code Love is needed!!

overall it would be great if Theguyoverthere or someone at Stern would show some topper code love in the game and really make the integration more active special.
For the price you think it would and as it stands the capability is there so that could do so much more. Very little thought or effort was put into the topper code integration with the moments of the game. As in none. Please Ray. Gears On and off during a few moments of the game with A half dozen blinky lights is, well, not what it could be.

Someone at Stern just actually needs to play the game with the topper and watch how often it goes dead and look at all the opportunities where the topper should be uniquely part of the game, or going berserk, Plus consider my idea of lighting up all the albums by default and having them go dark as you qualify them So you're trying to turn them all off basically. I want to see those rush albums lit up.

Quoted from schudel5:

I just wish that the albums you collected during the game stayed lit during the end of ball bonus. That's when I look up to see which ones I've collected and, unfortunately, the whole thing is dark. If it was ball 3, I guess I don't get another chance to see which ones they were. Disappointed with that.
So far, with the topper installed and at least 25 games played, I've never gotten a topper award yet.

Quoted from kool1:

I only have a couple of games with the topper late last night but my initial reaction was also that it doesn't do much also. Would love to see it lit up more for sure, I agree, something in the code could be done.
I agree with yzfguy though - I prefer to see the albums light vs go dark as you progress.

Quoted from Hayfarmer:

I still laugh when Geddy yells " noooooooooo" when I hit the left outlane

Quoted from Vespula:

I do notice the call out "Nooooooooo!"only on drain of ball 3 with no extra balls unless I'm mistaken

Quoted from Hayfarmer:

Yup, and I recall only the left outlane, but I may be wrong, that's where I've noticed it

Quoted from Vespula:

At least the potential to improve the code exists so that gives me hope.
The album idea was a stretch, I know, but I was desperate. It's not the worst idea but I didn't think most would like it.
What about if they all lit up to start with and then when you qualified one it would flash? Oh, wait, that's right, there's a flashing routine on the topper album's currently when you you get the combo but haven't qualified the album at the time machine.
I think that flash is synced with the orange light on the time machine.

Quoted from kool1:

Lots of potential for improvement and further integration I think - not sure if we will get. Maybe we need to shoot an e-mail or PM to Rayday.

Quoted from yzfguy:

We have only gotten frenzy twice, and it really would be cool if there were at least a little sound effect to go along with it, rather than just the little added count- up display.
After having this topper for a while, I feel like it looks cool, and I do like the way the albums light up as you collect them. Other than that, it really is kinda disappointing. I wasn't expecting it to give me a back rub or anything like that, but they could have made it feel like it was choosing the award with the dial. It really just doesn't feel like it is necessary, and I guess that's because it really isn't.
I figured I sort of "had to get it" for the LE to complete it, and if I ever sell, I feel like I would probably recoup the topper cost from someone looking for an LE, but I also feel like FOMO made me do it, and resent the over blown money grab by Stern. It makes me feel like a sucker and it won't happen again. It would be nice to think that a fair price could be asked for these ads ons to keep enthusiasts interested in them, but clearly with the 1k zip tie Godzilla topper, this is the new reality.
I think this is a cool looking topper, but it the whole thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth.