That was a snip.
Here's the original link to the Stern rule sheet listed on tilt forums
https://insider.sternpinball.com/documents/16/Rush-Rulesheet.pdf

Check that the game is not on competition mode.

Topper frenzy is just one of the possible topper mystery awards

Thanks! I will check that setting.

So topper frenzy isn’t something you can qualify and start, it is only one of the mystery awards?

We finally got our new to us Rush set up and working. Updated the code, and have absolutely been loving game. I am by no means a mod person, but for the first time I find myself more seriously looking at some things.

I just can't get over the pricetag on the topper though... 1700 is a huge huge ask imo.

As is, this may be my favorite Sterns, and certainly one of Borgie's best.

Yes

Then maybe it deserves a topper.

For half the price, I would more than likely be in...

Just had a really good (for me) game and knocked my kid's time Traveller high score down. First time I've heard (in a laughing voice) "I think my friend used to have a high score on this game!" LMAO

Plenty of other good topper choices out there, use the additional money towards other fun items for the game. Welcome to the club!

So in the expression light instructions is doesn't tell you how to set the dip switches on the included boards?

I haven't gotten mine yet to confirm but all I know is The key post from CrashJT shows a node board sheet. Where he got that I don't know? Maybe it shipped with them.
And apparently the boards appear to be shipping with all the dip switches off which functions as a Node 8.
And it needs to function as a node 02 according to the sheet for optional expression lights.
You have to set the dip switches to tell the game this or you get a collision error alert because two Node 8 boards exist.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/the-official-rush-owners-club-1/page/279#post-7556704

Give it time. . Took me a while too.

Is that what you did? You got the roll the bones right?

Thanks! Ya I'm still curious if included instructions give dip switch settings. Maybe someone with expression lighting can confirm this.

If that's the only sheet that came with it You really have to do some shrewd deduction, or understand the node board system or have been down this road before. I would not have done it correctly myself and I would have just installed it and come to pinside for the answers! Now if I could just get my expression lights shipped....

Correct, went with Gameroom Mods RtB topper. Worked right out of package, and as expected, no disappointments, lol.

And they make awesome products with great communication:
https://pinside.com/pinball/market/shops/1167-gameroom-mods/07936-stern-rush-lighted-topper

Cannot confirm for the Rush version of lights, but I do believe the LZ kit had the dip settings mentioned, I’d have to find the sheet to 100% confirm.

It would be strange to have that info omitted for the Rush sets.

How it should be. Say, can I borrow some money?

Keypost Thanks CrashJT,read more on his origional post.

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see above

That pic shows the Prem/LE version.

Has it been confirmed this is the same dip switch setting for the pro model?

If you get in good with them, they might offer a layaway plan, lol.

Ya, that sheet came with my pro. So if in the EL instructions they say the board must be a node 2, then technically they've explained it....

It's just a generic node board sheet and not express the light specific, but so because the premium & LE both have all the features and all the boards, that's the reference guide.
If you're adding a LE feature such as the expression lights to either your premium or your Pro, then you would Just reference n the description and set the dip switches to be node 2.

But again like I said, I would not have pulled this off without another sheet in the box telling me to set expressionized to node 2.....somebody like me with no experience will not think to reference this not understanding the system so if there was another sheet in there that said expression lights are node 2 set the dip switches according to the included sheet, then I could have done that.

It doesn't matter what model pin you have.... expression lights are controlled by node 2

It already is. That's how I found it originally.

With the way these toppers are going, do we need a new high score option for games with Toppers?

This is possibly the most game integrated topper so far - extra balls and a frenzy mode. Really don’t like the way this is going. I’ve got a feeling Foo topper will be even worse.

Stern games all have issues with mystery awards being actually awarded before the screen tells you what you’ve been awarded. Not sure why they can’t code that better. From memory it’s only Spike games I’ve noticed it on.

yes ,thats why it starts with Key Post but I did leave out the space between words .Flog me

Lol, that response deserves a good gif.

this worked surprisingly well for me. thanks for the tip. Now Rush plays "right"

My power dist board died a few weeks ago (now replaced by Stern). No visible damage. I have zero mods installed- all factory parts. I don’t understand how boards like that just go bad in a light use home only environment. Doesn’t seem to happen in any other type of product at the rate it happens in these pins.

How many products have as many parts that all must work together?

So are all of you requesting kits for the node 10 problem proactively or waiting for an issue to surface? I have an LE and haven’t had a problem, but I also have low plays. I haven’t received any bulletins from Stern.

Installed the topper and it works great. It looks amazing when it is moving. It does have the same problem that the GoT topper had in that it needs some front lighting. This topper sits back a little further than GoT, so shouldn't be a problem to put in a strip LED in front of it. It just needs a way to mount without letting the LEDs be visible to the player. I have that designed and printing on my 3D printer as I type this. If it works out, I might offer it up on my Pinside shop.

I'm taking a break from installing the Expression Lighting. That ran into a little hiccup. The steel bar on the back of the light strip wouldn't fit into the channel in the cabinet at the spot where it makes the 90 degree bend. A couple of taps with the hammer and wood chisel in a spot that is completely hidden and all was well. The GF has a bad back, so I didn't even try to pull the playfield. I put it up on the lock bar and lifted the rear into the service position. It took a little jockeying, but the lights went in easily. I never remove the playfield to do art blades anyway.

Did you hear a relay clicking on boot up that goes away?
There are multiple reports of this with FF pins where the caps in pdu are theorized to be barely in spec and causing power issue on boot triggering a relay in the power supply to open and close making that noise. It seems that it stabilizes after boot up. It was tested swapping noisy pdu with a quiet pdu from gz and the problem followed the pdu and gz started clicking.

Here's couple post about it from there..
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/foo-fighters-official-owners-club-rock-aliens/page/76#post-7589346

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/foo-fighters-official-owners-club-rock-aliens/page/76#post-7589519

I contacted my distributor to try and get a node 10 and motor proactively. They contacted Stern and Stern is not sending these out to anyone that doesn't have issues. Their response is if you haven't had any issues yet, chances are you won't later. Not what I wanted to hear. I picked up a node 10 on my own just in case.

I also reached out to Stern and was told the same. I'm good with it, I don't think we should expect them to send out parts "in case" something happens, as long as they will do the right thing if it does.

Don't forget the over tightened zip ties that break the internal small fragile wires were suspected to contribute as well.

Your wish is my command! See pic below of the upcoming Topper Hardware Cleanup Kit installation from Rocket City Pinball! Note, I have a few comments on things that can/should be changed from this setup, so read on.

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I gave an assortment of hardware to my local friend who has the topper, to try out. As expected, it looks SO much better as the hardware now blends in. See arrows in the picture below, and text below that for my comments.

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- White arrows: He opted to leave these black instead of replacing them with gold. I think the lower ones look fine, but I'd probably still replace the upper ones. Same goes for the top-most one under 'Rush', black might work here too -- so in the final kit I'll include enough gold screws to replace ALL of the ones in the radio face and you just decide which you want to replace and which you want to leave black.

- Yellow arrows: These should be replaced with silver -- however they're not easily accessible without removing the radio face. He opted to leave them. Depending on how tall you are, these may not be visible from the player's perspective. Again, I will include the necessary quantity of silver screws. All four of the player-facing brackets should have silver screws, except the upper locations on the outermost brackets -- put gold here, as shown in the pic.

- Green arrow: I didn't have enough silver screws (more are on order) so he put a gold one here. This should be silver to blend in better with the Vapor Trails image.

- Black arrows: I provided screws for the gears too (so you don't have a silver screw sticking out of a gold nut); he installed a shorter length screw than the original -- the shorter screw DOES fully engage the locking feature but doesn't protrude from the nut, it sits flush with the nut surface. If everyone's good with this, I'll provide this length. IF ANYONE HAS HEARTBURN HERE, let me know, and I'll get the OEM length so they stick out. I have zero concern from a structural/mechanical standpoint, especially since the locking threads are engaged (in the aerospace industry we generally want two full threads protruding, but as they say, this isn't rocket science) ... it's really more about looks. Does it look clean/good with the screw end flush or do you want protrusion?

Initially we thought about keeping the OEM black screw at the center of the gears and putting a black washer there -- I will provide 4 black washers with the kit in case anyone likes that, but obviously the gold looks great too.

Let me know what you guys think. I had to order up some additional hardware to complete the kit, so I won't be able to ship kits until the new hardware comes in. I also have some end-of-school-year family activity craziness coming up. As such, kits likely won't ship til second week of June.

I'm also playing with some knob replacement ideas, more to follow on those. Please discuss -- headed for a tournament with my daughter, will be back on later!

Nice work. Agree with your decisions.
Looks great! Let us know when they're ready for order!

Here's the proper node board setting for the Expression lights.

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Yes it does look a lot better. The gears especially look better. The other thing is the topper is really, really easy to work on for this mod. The gears come off with a single screw and the rest of the three hardware sets on each gear can be swapped at a workbench and put back on. The front face hardware all goes into tapped holes so there is no tiny backing hardware to lose. Very easy. I was a little lazy and didn't swap out the two black screws along the bottom because they are just a bit tougher to work on.

I just tested a mock up of my topper GI lighting system and it looks better than I had hoped. As I mentioned before, if it works out I'll sell some through my Pinside shop.

I've done that already and I think it looks great. The bobblehead effect is fun to see when you're nudging the machine!

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Is this what the pinball world is turning into? We're now getting enhancements for $1800 toppers...which are technically a mods...

Next this you know, someone will be selling mods, to modify the mods, which were purchased as mods for the mods that are in your machine.

Is this pinball or Monty Python?

Welcome to “Pimp Your Pin!”

Seriously? Thousands. Cars for starters. Also, parts working together has nothing to do with it. Boards generally don't just fail on their own.

I have a Foo too, I'll have to check that.

Rush was working fine for a year. I updated to the latest code and then the board stopped working - no indication of any problem. I'm sure the update was a coincidence, but that is the only thing that changed from working to not working.