yes, this is happening.....ball drains, then ball search.

So perhaps,we are not supposed to be locking balls "always" at this point

Folks keep debating about my pictures regarding possible pitting and wear and who knows what -- I did my best to take clear pics but they can always deceiving and there's always glare and artifacts.

I obviously see wear around the inside of the scoop, more on the right side than the left. I dont see any damage to the painted areas of the playfield outside the scoop protector. I can't see much of anything under the scoop protector, because well, it's there.

Here's video that might help, as moving around helps discern what's glare and what's not. Clearly the worst of the damage so far is the inner right wall of the scoop but I have no definitive indications that the top surface of the playfield has sustained damaged.

Debate away, but I'm not removing the protector to inspect for further wear unless/until I see something definitive about warranty -- you folks talking about removal-voids-warranty have me spooked.

This is my LE about 110 games.

Thanks for sharing the video, great clear close up view. I’m more surprised to see the inside right side had some wear.

Yeah I managed to capture that pretty well in pics in one of the previous posts, see the first two pics in https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/the-official-rush-owners-club-1/page/23#post-6796292

I played Rush LE at Arcade Monsters Oviedo. They set it up today.

Guys It's really F ING good. I got goosebumps playing it. Combos are really satisfying and multipliers add risk reward. Call outs great. Borg Off set flippers great. Flippers had more travel then most pins making traps easier. Longer ball times. Best spinner in pinball? Yes. It's up there with Metallica and ACDC but with deeper rules and collects.

Code was deeper than I expected. I need to dive deeper. Not sure what the screen was showing me. I collected a weapon. Combos are key. My last game I blew it up.

GC 3 Billion!
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First impressions…… floored!

The greatest pinball experience of my life has been for about the last 30 minutes now! I don’t know what to say but I will update as soon as I can collect myself. For interests its the pinball machine of a lifetime, without question. The abundance of crisp aspects are incredibly eye pleasing! Too many to cover yet.

Here’s a quick video.

All 3 Rush flyers have been added to the flyer database: https://nypinball.com/new-flyers/

Wow.. Well done.

Impressed when I see an LE available for public play. Pretty sweet.

Curious to see more folks comment on the LE scoop after continuing to play more

Pulled the glass off and all looks great .The protectors are starting to get beat up but I’ll chalk that up to they’re doing the job .Installed .89 .Watched Flipin Outs stream with RD in chat .Starting to understand a lot more.Finally, I said that it might rival IMDN as this house’s GOAT.I change my mind ,it is already challenging the spot .Thanks to everyone involved in the making of this pin !!! This is the absolute best NIB experience I’ve had yet (3) and it just keeps getting better .Fing .89 lmao where is this one headed ?

Oh, I had it too steep yesterday .Dead nuts between the lines and perfect level across the front and back .Shooting like a dream that I don’t want to end

The LE has a functioning protector- I wouldn’t tell anyone to take it off. The first run pros are in different boat.

Your scoop is fine. You are always going to get the wood showing some contact like that unless it has a mantis style protector. What matters is when the impact area starts becoming a crater.

I do hope the updated protector includes the side coverage because the game does wear the hole on both the left and right side of the scoop. The le stopgap doesn’t… but we are told it is not the final iteration.

If the wood is still exposed after the final fix from Stern, I will put a thin coat of clear 2 part epoxy inside to protect it. I've done this on other machines and it worked pretty well.

the exact wording i got from Stern in a tech support emails is this " It is highly recommend to not remove the scoop from your game for it may affect games warranty." this was a couple weeks after the game was released. I'm at about the limit of being able to salvage my original scoop. hopefully the improved one will be released soon.

Here's the response I got from Stern. I've had the Pro for almost 2 weeks now and it's unplayable ... unless I want to slide the glass off and push the ball down every few minutes. They say removing the protector may affect the warranty. I'm a newbie, surely other games must have similar scoops. This doesn't seem like rocket science. How long does it take to fix this? #FRUSTRATED

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The warranty that doesn't cover the playfield or anything attached to it? That warranty?

Fellow LE owner asked for pics of my Start button installed on the LE ... figured I'd just share em here in case others wanted to see.

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If you got one of the operator games as an operator then my conversation with Stern would have been about making a determination of 'may' -- because those games are at the front of the line for specific reasons... they 'may' want to consider how to keep those games on location and accessible.

Too cool....and I've got the mount for them in my shop. Just double check the diameter of the sticks being 14mm. I believe that they are....

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/shops/1227-willipinball-mods/05872-rush-steampunk-gears-drumstick-mounts

Just a couple of blurbs about fine tuning so far. I’ll be the first to admit I am no expert.

I did set the flipper strength to normal (default hard) and then turned it back to hard. I figured I’d stay on the same page as stern for this so far. The ball does get airborne however.

I turned the music impedance to -25 (default 0) and it was significantly louder.

Adjusted both the black box and cab equalizers to replicate what I use in a stereo for rock music (left high, mid middle, right high). Not sure if this is correct for a pin but it seems to sound strong.

Updated via wireless to .89 and it took about 45min.

Those are the only changes so far. The pin is amazing with an incredible light and sound show. Great flow and super fast.

When I first unboxed mine on Sunday I had an issue with the flippers going dead during the first two-to-four games. It already had the 0.88 code on it, which had just came out. After that, I played it for about a week with no issues at all.

Tonight, I played about six games then installed 0.89. On the first game I started having the flippers go dead again.
I went into diagnostics and ran the Tech Report and it came up with nothing.

Is anybody else having this issue?

I'm wondering if it has something to do with the installation of new code and just needs a couple of games to get things ironed out.

There are 21 Rush LE games in the marketplace currently. I can't wait to look in a month at what percentage of the total were straight flips. Pretty heavy competition currently.

I set my scoop up to lock the ball like some others mentioned on here.

The first time, it locked the first ball and auto-launched the second ball. When the second ball locked it did nothing. It just sat there for a while then did two ball searches before it kicked both balls out of the scoop.

The second time around, it worked correctly.

I installed 0.89 and it locked the ball but I have to manually launch the next one. (I haven't looked but maybe that a change in the code update).

Speaking of launching the ball.... I'm also having the issue someone else brought up on here with a soft launch for the skill shot acting like it's hitting something right when it gets to the ramp. When the ball trickles back down it auto-launches. If you pull the plunger back all the way it launches fine. Has anybody figured that one out?

Is it JUST the flippers that go dead, or the lights and everything and the machine reboots?

If it's just the flippers sounds like you just have a loose connection on a node board. Did you reseat all the connectors and tug on the wires going into the connectors to make sure none were loose in the housing? I would check them all on node 8 (the rectangular board near the flippers) but concentrate on connector CN8 on node 8 which is power to the flippers.

If it's NOT only the flippers, but you lose lights, too, I'd look at the power supply. If it's falling below 48v output, the machine can reset. Do you have a multimeter to measure the output and make sure it's 48v?

If all that checks out, I'd take a look at reimaging an SD card and replacing the one Stern shipped you with the machine. They're total crap and not above failing out of the box. If they're flaky your machine can do weird things. A replacement at bestbuy (don't buy off ebay or amazon, too many counterfeits) is like $10-$15. Instructions on re-imaging here:
https://sternpinball.com/support/sd-cards/

Very happy with this cover up.

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Are the leds under the song mode inserts rgb? It'd be nice if they were lit to match the song's target record color. I'm too feeble minded to remember which one is which. (I don't think this mapping is on the display either?)

This might help a bit.

https://pinmonk.com/products/copy-of-rush-owl-eye-light-bleed-blocker

I think this is the one he's looking for.

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/shops/1170-pin-monk/05848-rush-mode-color-insert-bracket-set

EDIT: Weird that the URL on pinmonk.com isn't right, though the page is. I'll have to fix that.

Nice. This seems like a must have. I'm kind of surprised those lights aren't colored out of the factory given the rules approach.

Agree. They weren’t on Iron Maiden either.
Not a bad alternative.

Playing well but having an issue where the auto plunge button is not registering both when plunging and entering initials. I lights up and springs fine but not registering? Any ideas what might cause this. Lockdown bar is buckled and seems to be in place. Thanks.

For reference it works when I remove the button and press it with my finger, but it seems like it has to travel far to register.

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Bend the back blade of the switch closer. My Godzilla was the same way. The back blade was just too far away to make contact when the button was depressing the front blade. (It can also not work if the lower blade is too close and always making contact)

You are referring to pressing down on the top of the brass piece to make it closer to the opto light? Thank you

Thank you. That worked perfectly. Very appreciated!

Got it! Appreciate you. The language that guides you through the process on the machine is…less than satisfactory haha.

Flippergate be damned, I had to set it up and play a few games. I was able to connect to WiFi & register - but the game wouldn’t get far in the update process & would stop. Not sure if it’s cuz I’m far from my router or some other issue. I updated it with USB instead.

Only played a handful of games & have no idea WTF I’m doing - but it is thrilling to play. The expression light shows to my favorite songs just makes it so enjoyable. Fast play, great combos, Canadian accents - it’s everything you could want!

Hopefully I’ll figure out the rules eventually…but
I think it’s like AC/DC in the sense that even if I never get all the nuance, it just makes me happy playing it.

Yes. Why on earth do they want operators to have to turn off a game or lane a brand new game broken

I was wondering the same thing. What is the actual warranty?

Kind of depends how up to bat your distro is, from the past issues I’ve dealt with. Little things and tsb kits stern is good at sending. Big ticket items you need that distro help

The inlanes light the mystery award at the front scoop.

Well, here is what is printed in the manual. The kicker is that the warranty starts on the day it ships from Stern, not when you get the game. If you buy a game that's been sitting at a distributor for 6 months, it could be out of warranty already.

Of course, Stern and distributors are pretty good at helping customers out despite what the warranty says. I've had a distributor send me a node board even though the game was 1 year old, I was the second owner and it was routed previously. But it is comical what Stern's actual warranty says.

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That's just to cover their asses. When it comes down to it, they've replaced defective parts for me that they know were problematic and not caused by the user. My t-rex head on JP got swapped out nearly a year after I bought it because there were issues right out of the box.

I know this is the club thread and know most here (similar to myself) are probably big Rush fans, but I just got my LE and played it several times last night and feel a bit like I am missing something that everyone else is seeing.

Did you all immediately like the game? Because (so far anyway) I am not feeling any love for this game. Feels like the 2 scoops are like a black hole in the center of the playfield sucking everything into it… and the ruleset feels (again, so far) confusing and chaotic. Hoping with more plays something will click for me.