fast shots dont register. Seems to affect most games. There are multiple fixes but i went with the ninjacamp one and it seems to do the job

Hard shots some times don’t register on the upper loop

Once I finally noticed it mine was maybe 3 out of 10 register and almost every super fast one, which for me is about every single one. The ninja camp it's simple, easy install, and effective.
What you don't see is another straight piece on the opposite side of the curve just as you turn the bend. The curved piece has been known to slide a little bit over time so on the back side lower piece Just put a couple tiny pieces of double-sided alien tape so it adheres to the back side of the rail and won't move.
Mine had shooter rattle really bad, so I got the three-piece set which includes another straight piece to help keep the ball in line that you place about halfway up on the left side of the shooter lane and it works excellent so if you do have shooter rattle go ahead and get the three-piece kit instead of the two-piece orbit fix kit. Not everybody needs the shooter lane, it's just my experience but it took a regular annoyance and made it go away so I could focus on rocking out and enjoying the flow of the game. Well done ninjacamp.
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I have a 3D printer so my loop fix is basically free. I'll have to check to see if mine slides over time, but it is rigid and a pretty tight fit, so i'll be surprised if it moves. I also printed my own TPU scoop protectors, but have yet to install them. I've found that even with the beefy Stern scoop protector, I still hit the shot pretty regularly.

I do need to take some measurements and make a quick and dirty 3d file for the shooter lane fix. If i had to guess by the photos, it looks like it is maybe .8mm thick. If anyone has one that they made that they can measure the thickness, that would be cool. Not looking to direct copy someone else's design that they sell.

My choice for the scoop protector was the ninjacamp full upper and lower scoop protector, and I've really been happy with that choice. But a couple of nights ago, I was in the middle of a great game and in multiball when a ball got stuck in the lower scoop. I was kind of baffled, as that's never happened before, but when the dust settled after multiball was over I saw that the protector had succumbed to the beating from the balls and failed. I still think it's a great solution to protect the scoops, and I know they don't market it as a lifetime solution, but I reached out to them through Pinside PM and haven't heard back as of yet. So if your listening (reading) these posts, please let me know if you're still replacing the original protector with the updated protector under warranty. I don't want to play the game without a scoop protector solution. Here's a pic of the failure...

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Glad I could be of some help.

It’ll be interesting when you replace it to see how the wood and clear coat are holding up with that solution. Do you know how many games it has been on there for?

My black V1 did the same and they sent a replacement immediately no questions asked. PMd the OutpostKodelia handle and Kaydee responded right away. Maybe try again or try the Ninjacamp mods thread?

First 12 sets going out hopefully today. I still have to make more a few more though to fill the requests.

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Those kits are supposed to be 2 short domes and 1 tall? They look random in your picture, or maybe it's just a photo op and I'm paying too much attention to detail..
either way giving these out for just 5 bucks shipping is very generous to the community.

Aniraf OutpostKodelia

Either of these two will take care of you, great team and customer service. Though, all of us keep them pretty busy, lol.

V1 had issues they’re aware of, V2 has been holding strong.

Thanks. 3D printing is very enjoyable to me. The containers each have complete sets in them. There are 3 gold bulb covers for the exposed bulbs on the scoop (2) and one for the left ramp. And 3 clear domes with gold trim rings for the Time Machine. The shop orders help me to keep the requests straight. The container and shipping will eat the $5 I think. I’ll find out when I go to the post office

Edit: I think you’re seeing the domes not fully seated into the trim rings. The 3 Time Machine domes are the same height.

I started to experience a slow backwards rolling ball hang up, on the inner loop switch, within the last two weeks. Didn’t happen very often, but noticing it more lately.

As is, the remedy would be to pull the glass(not ideal during a game) or shake the machine(causing either tilt warnings and/or extra “cheat” points), to get the ball loose.

There’s a couple of options out there, the MRS being one that would eliminate the wire of the switch.

I went a different route, since I had some washers on hand. I used two #8 washers stacked, between the switch base and bottom of playfield. I placed them under the screw closest to the switch hole, since all I wanted to do, was lower the switch wire down a bit, to eliminate hang ups.

My switch activates fine, so didn’t want to attempt bending and repositioning it, if I didn’t need to. If doing this, keep an eye on the switch wire when reinstalling, make sure the wire sits in the middle of the slot hole, not rubbing either side. It’s easy for it to shift while you’re tightening things down.

Happy to report, still registers each pass, with no hang ups since. Will report back after more time passes.

Washers were from PBL I just happen to have on hand.

Mine has been on for 800+ plays and looks perfect still. I put mylar in front of and down inside each scoop.

Don't want to stray off topic too much, but I recently invented a new 3D-printed tool for setting the pitch on pinball machines using a bubble level - check it out in my video, and I've posted the STL file on my blog (linked from the video) so you can print your own!

this is helpful, I have only had this happen a couple times literally off an odd hit... I did enable my coin door open to avoid tilt and ball save in settings for moments like this, but now I wonder if the tilt warnings are still registered even with the coin door open and all that is prevented is a drain? Dont use it enough to know this subtle detail.

You had said in your earlier post that you had remixed Bigguybbr's files a bit? I don't see any remixes from his files on thingiverse. Have you posted the stl files online?

Hey there, sending you a PM. We'll absolutely take care of this for you. The issue you're showing is exactly what the V2 was intended to address.

I updated my thinigverse post with a base for the bulbs I made. It’s a little different from Xdetroit did. Both work and are a visual improvement. He’s just nicer than I am and helps print for others

Yeah, if Xdetroit made alterations as well I'd like to have the options to choose from! Not that I have any gold filament at the moment... If you guys want to give tips on what brand you're using I'm happy to take recs!

And thanks to both for putting these together! I'd still like to get some of the fancier time machine mods but this can hold me over til tax refund hits.

This was the filament I used.

https://www.amazon.com/iBOSS-Filament-Printing-Dimensional-Accuracy/dp/B0B49GSPT8

Haha that’s the same gold filament I’m Using. I like the iBoss filament.

Yeah, the first release did not have the gold bases around the clear domes. I added that detail and then Bigguybbr added the them to his thingverse files. I have never uploaded anything there. I can upload my gold ring. It’s almost the same but mines a little taller. Just by a few mm

Cool, thanks guys for the filament link. If making the rings taller was all that was done I think I can manage that. I was thinking of trying to widen the base a bit too, try and cover up more of the Stern sticker detail that would already be mostly covered. Will post back with how things go!

I went trying to find it in this thread, but I may have just had the lowest score on ball 1 so far. Drained out the left out lane with 00 points, had a ball save auto plunge, hit everything except targets, and gave me pity points.

15,700........was so in shock, I didn’t even take a picture.

All because I showed my TF some attention, this game can be a jealous b*+#%

And indeed I received the PM and they will be replacing my broken V-1 protector with a new V-2 protector. Now that's what I call great service!

Is there any way to know which version one has?

V2 has a bigger diameter at the join between the lower and upper scoop protectors.

If you purchased before 4/12/22 you almost certainly have the old one. The easiest way to tell them apart visually is that the V2's have a third L shaped tab that screws down under the playfield. If you have that, you're already set. If not, then PM me.

9.6 Billion game tonight. Got through both the Cygnus books and ended at year 2106. I had maybe 4 extra balls. I still don't feel like I have any idea what I am doing in this game. There is so much going on. My previous high score was 1.6 billion or so. I have frequent games under 50 million too.

Agreed! I just found out mine was broken in the same place and a new one is coming right away. Fantastic mod and great people behind it.

Get rid of the sandwich!

Ah my order was 2022-03-22 so looks like I have the old one, I'll pm you.

Preach!

This game really escalates and explodes after you get a ways into the gameplay. There are a lot of extra balls that are quite a far distance from the start button - 50 time machine years, 68 ramps, and 5 albums. But once you start getting those, they snowball through into the rest of them. Same goes for the time machine upgrades.

The best thing you can do to make that escalation happen sooner is to get the 10 time machine years for every one of the planet modes, for scoring 100 million. Before starting it, take the time to shoot more records to somewhere around +60% to +80% value, and get more records on the right color, particularly for modes that concentrate a lot of scoring on one shot (left orbit and loop for Working Man, dead end for Spirit of Radio, loop for La Villa Strangiato.)

Once you start getting the time machine upgrades that make the multiballs better, then what happens is you can complete a mode during the multiball, and keep going to shoot more records to light the next one. Particularly once you get the Super Records time machine upgrade, you can be into like +150% mode scores before you even realize it. And you have two more rainbow records placed from finishing that mode and lighting the next one, so now a bunch of shots are at 3x or 4x going into the next mode, on top of that +150%. And then suddenly you're scoring 400 million on Limelight out of nowhere.

And then Cygnus book 2 blows it up all over again - those bloated mode scores feed into the jackpot value here, that gets multiplied *again* by each of the rainbow records.

the v2 piece also has a small tab with a screw hole that is captured on the underside of the playfield (on that right edge) that helps prevent the protector from being [pulled] into scoop area to help prevent stress and tearing on it.

has anyone put down mylar in front of the downward facing scoop?

I noticed on a few routed machines that the balls that launch out are getting airborne and neil's face ends up taking a beating.

I know a few times I've played I've seen the score 21,120 come up on screen. Can't remember if that was the lowest I had scored or if that was the bonus but I was under the impression that 21,120 was the minimum one could score, outside of completely tilting out. I'm disappointed that we can actually score lower.

So I think what you’re saying here is play better?

https://www.ragetiltpinball.com/product-page/play-better-koozie

I did a small amount of mylar on both scoops on top of the ninja protectors. That was about 500 plays ago, and with no problems.

21,120 is the default bonus if you somehow do nothing to score any bonus at all. That would at least mean hitting no bumpers (drum clock minutes score bonus) or record shots (score color-matching bonus.)

Heh. I'm saying how Rush particularly rewards playing better with a huge amount of stacking and escalating modifiers as you go, more than any other game. Other games like Godzilla also do this in the escalating numbers but not nearly as much in the powerup perks.

Ya, I put mylar down about 1.5 " in front and down into the scoops when I installed the ninja protector

Yikes. I ordered April 13th and it was shipped April 19th. Wondering if I just got in under the wire...

Did you have the little tab that goes down under the bottom scoop and attaches to a screw? That is the newer one.

I put Pin Monks mylar in and Ninja Camp scoop sleeves and protectors. Great combo IMO.

I just installed my scoop protectors and love it!! Quick question….I’m now getting SDTM drains from the front scoop. Do you think I might have tightened the scoop down at a bad angle?

I think most of the new sterns known for 'deep code' do this in different ways, it's just knowing which levers to pull and focus on that brings the big scores. AIQ and GZ both are very similar in how they open up the deeper you get in the game.........if you play better!

That's usually the cause. Most people are able to resolve this by loosening the screws that mount the scoops underneath, rotating it as much as you can such that the front of the mech is tweaked slightly more to the right, then resecuring the screws. Playing with the coil power can help too. Also double check that the tab at the front of the protector is sitting flush against the underside of the playfield... sometimes it's out of place and the ball will graze it on the way out.

Check out our snowfall warning time stamp!

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I put down the piece from PinMonk, and then the NC protector on top of it, since day 1. No issues so far, little under 300 games.

Light blue titans. It's a good match imo.

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