Quoted from Jamesays:

Here are my initial settings for pinwoofer probably tweak it some as I rock along.

Quoted from Calgedy:

I just sent Stern a message saying the same thing. Get ready to be sued for new playfields.

Quoted from netman63129:

I received LE #800 two days ago. I've been tweaking it and here's what I've learned...
1) For a music pin, the sound quality isn't that great. It definitely needs a subwoofer and more high-end frequencies from the backbox speakers. I can barely hear the cymbals. I have another Polk 10" PSW108 on the way from Amazon ($250). I've found this to be the best sub for the price and it supports connections to two pins. The 4 ohm/8 ohm setting is under Utilities, but this only changes the volume. It does not improve the sound quality, which I expected being an engineer and understanding how impedance works. However, there are 10-band equalizers for both the backbox speakers and the cabinet speakers. On the backbox, I recommend increasing the midrange bands a little and the treble bands a lot. Do the reverse on the cabinet speaker, increase the bass bands. This makes a small difference, at least until the subwoofer arrives.
2) I wanted to make sure the playfield was exactly 6.8 degrees, as recommended by Stern. Usually, this makes all the shots and angles correct as the playfield designer intended. However, I noticed that no matter how much I lifted the front of the pin, the level bubble didn't move. Then I discovered that the level was not properly seated in the bracket. Push, click, fixed. After leveling (it was too high), the issue I had where my manual ball plunge was not hard enough to drop the ball to the upper flipper is now corrected.
3) The flipper strength on my machine was much to strong. Balls were flying everywhere and I was worried that things would get damaged, especially the scoops. The game was also impossibly fast and I was getting all kinds of strange deflections into the out-lanes. I lowered the strength from the default Hard to Normal and the machine plays like a dream. My first game after this correction, I was hitting all my shots, getting multi-balls, and making progress instead of watching cheap drains. I can now perform multiple loops with the left flipper and the right ramp shot is actually easier to hit.
4) My biggest complaint is the fan noise that kicks on every few minutes for about 20 seconds. I assume that this is to cool the CPU but wow, it's like someone plugged in a Hoover. Is there anything that can be done about it?
I will say that I am pleased how Stern has upped their game recently (pun intended), especially the big improvements like the quality of the cabinet artwork, the Expression lighting and the mirrored back-glass. There are a lot of little things, like the wires that keep the speaker panel from hitting the glass and the nice labels in the backbox. If they would just spend the extra $50 (wholesale) for some better backbox speakers, which on a music pin should be a no-brainer. They could also enclose the cabinet speaker and add a port, which would dramatically improve the bass.
I've been a huge Rush fan all my life, one of those people that you see in the documentaries, that explain how Rush music changed their life. I may be a bit biased but I love a well designed pin and Rush LE looks and plays like a thing of beauty. I am really looking forward to the finished code

Quoted from Craziestsinge:

Borg designed Tron, correct?
It seems that Tron has a similar Rush Pro style protector on its scoop. This scoop is VERY close to the flippers. Does anyone recall having issues with scoop wear on this machine?
I think traditionally scoops never used to have protection. I used to own a used Adams Family and the "Electric Chair" scoop was unprotected. I bought a "Cliffy" protector years ago to help protect that hole.[quoted image]

Quoted from netman63129:

4) My biggest complaint is the fan noise that kicks on every few minutes for about 20 seconds. I assume that this is to cool the CPU but wow, it's like someone plugged in a Hoover. Is there anything that can be done about it?

Quoted from cooked71:

Try PinMonk ‘s fan. Whisper quiet. The Stern fans seem to be getting worse - my Mando one sounds like a jet engine. Ridiculous.
https://pinside.com/pinball/market/shops/1170-pin-monk/03734-300w-spike-plug-n-play-quiet-fan-kit

Quoted from netman63129:

4) My biggest complaint is the fan noise that kicks on every few minutes for about 20 seconds. I assume that this is to cool the CPU but wow, it's like someone plugged in a Hoover. Is there anything that can be done about it?

Quoted from Calgedy:

I got a quick reply from a rep named Adam, who said engineering is aware of the issue and a more permanent fix will be sent to the distributors once it is finalized. The forks sounds like a temp fix??

Quoted from j_m_:

a question to all LE owners that have received their machines.
I heard that the cabinet art has a foil accent (like they started doing with the godzilla LE) but I'm not seeing anything in the photos that have been posted so far

Quoted from tatman9999:

Picked my LE up today.
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Quoted from j_m_:

a question to all LE owners that have received their machines.
I heard that the cabinet art has a foil accent (like they started doing with the godzilla LE) but I'm not seeing anything in the photos that have been posted so far

Quoted from netman63129:

I received LE #800 two days ago. I've been tweaking it and here's what I've learned...
1) For a music pin, the sound quality isn't that great. It definitely needs a subwoofer and more high-end frequencies from the backbox speakers. I can barely hear the cymbals. I have another Polk 10" PSW108 on the way from Amazon ($250). I've found this to be the best sub for the price and it supports connections to two pins. The 4 ohm/8 ohm setting is under Utilities, but this only changes the volume. It does not improve the sound quality, which I expected being an engineer and understanding how impedance works. However, there are 10-band equalizers for both the backbox speakers and the cabinet speakers. On the backbox, I recommend increasing the midrange bands a little and the treble bands a lot. Do the reverse on the cabinet speaker, increase the bass bands. This makes a small difference, at least until the subwoofer arrives.
2) I wanted to make sure the playfield was exactly 6.8 degrees, as recommended by Stern. Usually, this makes all the shots and angles correct as the playfield designer intended. However, I noticed that no matter how much I lifted the front of the pin, the level bubble didn't move. Then I discovered that the level was not properly seated in the bracket. Push, click, fixed. After leveling (it was too high), the issue I had where my manual ball plunge was not hard enough to drop the ball to the upper flipper is now corrected.
3) The flipper strength on my machine was much to strong. Balls were flying everywhere and I was worried that things would get damaged, especially the scoops. The game was also impossibly fast and I was getting all kinds of strange deflections into the out-lanes. I lowered the strength from the default Hard to Normal and the machine plays like a dream. My first game after this correction, I was hitting all my shots, getting multi-balls, and making progress instead of watching cheap drains. I can now perform multiple loops with the left flipper and the right ramp shot is actually easier to hit.
4) My biggest complaint is the fan noise that kicks on every few minutes for about 20 seconds. I assume that this is to cool the CPU but wow, it's like someone plugged in a Hoover. Is there anything that can be done about it?
I will say that I am pleased how Stern has upped their game recently (pun intended), especially the big improvements like the quality of the cabinet artwork, the Expression lighting and the mirrored back-glass. There are a lot of little things, like the wires that keep the speaker panel from hitting the glass and the nice labels in the backbox. If they would just spend the extra $50 (wholesale) for some better backbox speakers, which on a music pin should be a no-brainer. They could also enclose the cabinet speaker and add a port, which would dramatically improve the bass.
I've been a huge Rush fan all my life, one of those people that you see in the documentaries, that explain how Rush music changed their life. I may be a bit biased but I love a well designed pin and Rush LE looks and plays like a thing of beauty. I am really looking forward to the finished code

Quoted from j_m_:

a question to all LE owners that have received their machines.
I heard that the cabinet art has a foil accent (like they started doing with the godzilla LE) but I'm not seeing anything in the photos that have been posted so far

Quoted from jonboy71:

My first experience with a NIB Stern LE. I see all these reports of shipped LE's, but radio silence from Stern with my distributor. How long does the process normally take to get the allotment of LE's shipped out?

Quoted from PsychoPsonic:

GNR LE finally lands here tomorrow after ordering in Dec 2020. That's gonna help distract, admittedly...

Quoted from PinMonk:

I think they've been doing the foil cabinet art since at least KISS LE, on and off.

Quoted from SkyKing2301:

More pics by request, showing the sides of the lower scoop, focused the pics on the inner edge of the wood. For those not following, this is on an LE with 104 plays.
Im definitely seeing wear on the wood, more on the right side than left. I can't see the condition of the PF underneath, it's not visible around the inner edge because of the metal shape (remember the tabs on the Pro, I think these are the same piece but with the tabs cut off).
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PF around the outer edge of the protector appears to be intact. White lines you see in these pics along the edges are reflections/glare. I dont know the condition underneath as I have not removed it.
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Quoted from TinyBlackDog:

I have a scoop question for LE owners - and it has nothing to do with protectors.
I'm trying to understand how the two scoop ejects are supposed to behave. I seem to recall Stern advertising a two ball lock mechanism that would eject balls simultaneously from both scoops at the start of Far Cry multiball. Mine never locks any balls, so at the start of multiball there is only one ball in the scoop that gets ejected out the bottom. Balls entering the side scoop will get ejected back out the side scoop unless the green light is flashing for ball lock. In that case, the ball gets ejected out the bottom scoop.
Is this the same behavior others are seeing? Did I imagine the physical ball lock w/ dual scoop ejects as a Premium/LE feature? Is this not coded yet?
Right now the side scoop eject is just annoying and seems to serve no real purpose.

Quoted from mbrave77:

so whats on the LEs isnt the final scoop?

Quoted from TinyBlackDog:

Found this in the 0.88 code update readme:
- Side Scoop:
- Changed the Side Scoop logic to eject balls out of the side and bottom
scoop depending on which shots were lit.
- Changed the SIDE SCOOP LOCKS BALLS adjustment default to NEVER. This
will award virtual locks to all players.
Wonder why this defaults to disabling the side scoop ball lock. Has anybody tried enabling this yet? I probably will, just to see how it works.

Quoted from DNO:

The first use of it I recall is Iron Man Vault edition

Quoted from Calgedy:

That is what Adam said. That's all I got. I think the fork fix was just to keep the LE's moving? I think Stern knows they are on the verge of having to replace many playfields............I told him as much. If a pin that I paid 12.5K after taxes has a factory defect that messes up the playfield in any way, they would be hearing from more than just me requiring a brand new playfield. They would legally lose and have to do it.

Quoted from Kkoss24:

JJP upped the price 1,500 and are still charging $600 for the PF and you get to swap it yourself lmao

Quoted from Calgedy:

If a pin that I paid 12.5K after taxes has a factory defect that messes up the playfield in any way, they would be hearing from more than just me requiring a brand new playfield. They would legally lose and have to do it.

Quoted from DNO:

The ball is going to damage playfields, always has. If stern hadn’t put any type of protector on the scoop, just as they have in the past, GOTG, Met.,Tron, etc etc.,, then what? Your playfield would get beat up, just like all those games did.
They tried, they failed. But pinball machines have always beat up the scoop holes, that’s just what has happened in the past. I don’t think you could say that the product is “defective”, but rather the protector is.
I know Pinside gets pretty worked up about the pipedream of a class action suit against Stern, but I don’t see this one.

Quoted from PinMonk:

Should be clearing LEs out now heading into Premiums, so you should have a shipping notice soon from your dist. Mine is finally on the way. Just a few days to go.

Quoted from schudel5:

LE in the house! Thanks to bouche03 for hooking me up. Much appreciated!
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Quoted from PinMonk:

Stern raised the price of LEs $1900 in the last year, so even WITH $500 (dunno where the $600 came from, I'm on the list for $500) for the spare playfield on a JJP GnR, you're about dead even between Stern and JJP.
There is no winner, only losers - us.

Quoted from DNO:

The ball is going to damage playfields, always has. If stern hadn’t put any type of protector on the scoop, just as they have in the past, GOTG, Met.,Tron, etc etc.,, then what? Your playfield would get beat up, just like all those games did.
They tried, they failed. But pinball machines have always beat up the scoop holes, that’s just what has happened in the past. I don’t think you could say that the product is “defective”, but rather the protector is.
I know Pinside gets pretty worked up about the pipedream of a class action suit against Stern, but I don’t see this one.

Quoted from Photopin:

After playing several games, one thing I would have liked to have seen was not using the same songs for both modes and as background music. I think they should have used a selection of songs to flip through for standard play then used different songs for the modes so it's not so repetitive.
Maybe someone who has pull will read this and they'll add 10 more songs to fix that problem.

Quoted from BeeGee6533:

Just unboxed my LE. Beautiful game. I have no idea why but I cannot access the DJ mode from holding both flipper buttons. It will not activate despite holding both flipper buttons. Anyone run into this issue or have any thoughts or suggestions?

Quoted from schudel5:

Did you put it on free play?

Quoted from the_carmanizer:

"3) The flipper strength on my machine was much too strong...."
Hi, as a newbie, can you please let me know how/where to adjust the flipper strength? Thanks!

Quoted from PinMonk:

...It's a crazy-loud fan that Gomez at Stern said they would be addressing over two years ago and...nothing. I sell a kit here on pinside ("Quiet fan kit"), on pinmonk.com and also pinballlife.com. I only bring pins in to mod, then sell them once they're done so I usually only have any given title for a few months and I ALWAYS tell myself I'm not going to replace the fan, but by the end of day one, I've changed it out because the sound drives me nuts.[quoted image]

Quoted from byurick:

I thought the order was operator Pros, LEs, consumer Pros then Premiums?