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RUSH Pinball Official Owners Club-“Straining the Limits of Machine and Man”

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#11801 1 year ago
Quoted from mikebarr:

FYI -- Stern is sending me a free mod for the upper orbit issue. It took me a bit but the customer service agent Thalia told me this:
"Good afternoon Mike, 
 
I hope you had a happy New Year for 2023! I reached to our engineer John Borg since your email from Dec. 19th. It took a while for him to get back but he suggested for a plastic cover to be placed above the area of the roll over switch. If you provide your shipping information, one will be send out to you under warranty. 
Thanks"
I am not sure if it will be better than other solutions, but this was a defect from the start so I am happy they are responding. If you email Stern customer service they should send one to you as well, I imagine.
Rush (Pro)

I've submitted a request to Stern Support. We'll see what happens. I fixed mine long ago with the generic piece of foam fix (registers every time), but if they'll send out a factory authorized piece, why not?

#11802 1 year ago
Quoted from CashMoney:

Haven't checked in on this thread in a few months, any update on EL kits or the Topper?

Nope

#11803 1 year ago

I'm sure they are about to be flooded with requests! If I had known that was an option, I would have done the same! Free is always the best!

#11804 1 year ago
Quoted from schudel5:

I hope you get it. I'm still waiting on parts they promised since July.

I've got you beat. I'm still waiting on parts since last march.

#11805 1 year ago
Quoted from avspin:

I'm looking for a Stern Rush Banner. Does anyone know who sells them? Not the knockoff one on ebay.
Thanks

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/128869

190/obo

#11806 1 year ago

Got bored so doing the Scoop Protector. Can anybody tell me on the underside of the playfield if there are (2) washers associated with the orange circled nut and the bottom-most nut circled in red. Ended up with extra pieces after having put this thing back together, lol.
The weird thing is that these 2 washers do not fit into the screws. The third washer and nut fit just fine (also circled in red)
Thx

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#11807 1 year ago
Quoted from pete_d:

For those still having trouble with their inner loop (aka "side loop") not registering the ball, I now have another option to offer. I designed a guide to fit on top of the metal wall that forces the ball back down onto the playfield to make sure the switch is triggered.

I've only played with it installed for a couple of hours so far, amounting to probably 70-100 shots around the loop, but the part is working perfectly. I went from almost never registering the loop, to registering it literally 100% of the time, zero failures.

Thanks for this! Having that shot register makes a huge difference in the game!

A gift beyond price -- almost free!

#11808 1 year ago
Quoted from gandamack:

Got bored so doing the Scoop Protector. Can anybody tell me on the underside of the playfield if there are (2) washers associated with the orange circled nut and the bottom-most nut circled in red. Ended up with extra pieces after having put this thing back together, lol.
The weird thing is that these 2 washers do not fit into the screws. The third washer and nut fit just fine (also circled in red)
Thx
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The nuts circled in red and orange, each have one washer to them on bottom side, from factory.

Do you have your washers up top? Or swap them with what NinjaCamp provided?

Is your machine new or 2nd hand? Someone may have added extra washer(s) to the scoop, for various reasons.

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#11809 1 year ago

Thanks for the post. Bought it new quite awhile ago, but just now getting the ninjas in there. Thx

#11810 1 year ago

OK, power’s out, so I have time to follow up on my pics below. Just got done fixing our washer, power went out right as I started to take the first screw out. Yes, machine was unplugged

Basing my observations from my machine, using similar thinking from when I used to prep and splice fiber optics. It teaches you what to aware of, and what can/will cause potential problems with signal.

Anyway, below are additional pics I took, when checking my wiring for the ramp and clock, some time ago. Things I/others have mentioned previously, zip ties being too tight, how soft the sheathing is, on the wires coming of the mechs, checking pins are seated properly in the connectors, ect...

While doing this, the ramp has a small blessing, the soft sheathing only goes from motor, to the first connector(approx 8”), then harder sheathed wire back to the Node board.

The clock on the other hand, doesn’t have any protection going back to the Node board, other than that soft sheathing. Not only zip ties, but other elements can potentially be pinching/breaking the stranded wire, along that path. On mine, I noticed the hole of the playfield and cable clamp, being a potentially bad spot, as the two other wire looms are so tight, they were pinching the soft wires against the wood, both top and bottom side. Be sure to examine how your moving or placing wire around there, as I can see that causing headaches.

So what I did, was free those wires with soft sheathing, and wrapped plastic spiral tubing around them. Keeps them together and safe, extra protection at the hole of the playfield. Did the same for the ramp, just to keep the wires together vs hanging loose.

Not saying this is THE fix, as none of us truly know yet, but wanted to share additional info I observed. I agree, the ramp moves a lot more vs the clock, but the clock wires have literally 0.000012 protection on them.

Things to keep in mind.

I’ll resort the pics, once I’m back at my computer.

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#11811 1 year ago

Regarding ongoing Node 10 failures. There’s a whole bunch of settings for the motor drives on the ramp and clock. Given the recent failure of a game with only the ramp connected, it’s pretty good evidence that it’s the ramp portion of the board is the one causing problems. This also makes sense given that the ramp motor is going to drive more mass and hence, draw more current (the clock is only moving the hand).

I have an LE build, no issues so far but only about 300 games. As a test, I’ve lowered the ramp movement and hold power (to 90 and 100, respectively from I think 130 and 150?). I couldn’t see any difference in ramp operation during play. My theory is some combination of current impulse is blowing the chip on the node 10 board. Anything to lower these is a good thing. I also think there’s a setting related to ramp timing? I may dial that back as well.

In the absence of something concrete from Stern, I appreciate the community contributing ideas and suggestions. I’ll run with these parameters and see what happens.

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#11812 1 year ago

Found three of my Rush tickets!

1982 signals
1984 grace under pressure
1997 test for echo

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#11813 1 year ago

I have a number of mine on the backglass. Couldn't fit them all.

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#11814 1 year ago

Has anybody installed the Myth Pinball speaker light kit. I watched the video for the Iron Maiden machine (which was impressive), just curious how it looks on the Rush machine.

#11815 1 year ago
Quoted from gandamack:

Has anybody installed the Myth Pinball speaker light kit. I watched the video for the Iron Maiden machine (which was impressive), just curious how it looks on the Rush machine.

I put the ninja lights in and they are unreal!. But you need the expression lights first, and for the life of me I can't understand why they are not available yet

#11816 1 year ago
Quoted from Hayfarmer:

I put the ninja lights in and they are unreal!. But you need the expression lights first, and for the life of me I can't understand why they are not available yet

Ya, I was intrigued by the Myth Pinball setup. Under 200 bucks seems like a decent price in the mod world.

#11817 1 year ago

What will the price of the expression lights be? Is that known? Also do they work on the pro model?

Thanks.

#11818 1 year ago

Regarding the tickets, j_m_ was creating magnets of ticket stubs. He made a replica of the ticket stub from my first Rush show. That was back in the day when you had to sleep out to get good tickets. We had second row!

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#11819 1 year ago
Quoted from Pinball-Obsessed:

What will the price of the expression lights be? Is that known? Also do they work on the pro model?
Thanks.

I believe 499 bucks and they will work on the pro. Expensive, but when you see them it's worth the cost

#11820 1 year ago
Quoted from Hayfarmer:

I believe 499 bucks and they will work on the pro. Expensive, but when you see them it's worth the cost

Excited for this for my pro!
Already got my order in for NinjaCamp's expression lights speaker kit and expression lights under cabinet kit to tie into these when I can finally get a set!

Also ordered the exit stage left mod since I'm under 6'4"

#11821 1 year ago
Quoted from Morehops4:

Regarding the tickets, j_m_ was creating magnets of ticket stubs. He made a replica of the ticket stub from my first Rush show. That was back in the day when you had to sleep out to get good tickets. We had second row!
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That's really cool. I would do this if I didn't already put the Neil tribute plaque there.

Was that the p/g tour?

#11822 1 year ago
Quoted from Hayfarmer:

I believe 499 bucks and they will work on the pro. Expensive, but when you see them it's worth the cost

It's definitely worth it - I just sold my LZ but the lights and music were the best part of that pin!

#11823 1 year ago
Quoted from kool1:

It's definitely worth it - I just sold my LZ but the lights and music were the best part of that pin!

I agree. Has a zepp le, was fun, but gone now. I have the ninja speaker lights now and the under cab lights ordered. Seizure time for sure!!

#11824 1 year ago
Quoted from Morehops4:

Regarding the tickets, j_m_ was creating magnets of ticket stubs. He made a replica of the ticket stub from my first Rush show. That was back in the day when you had to sleep out to get good tickets. We had second row!
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He made mine also from my R30 tour ticket.

I love it!

#11825 1 year ago
Quoted from Kez11:

I've submitted a request to Stern Support. We'll see what happens. I fixed mine long ago with the generic piece of foam fix (registers every time), but if they'll send out a factory authorized piece, why not?

To be clear, Stern is NOT sending these out to everyone. Just reached out them and the one that was made was a one-off and they have no official fix for the inner orbit yet. So if you want one now, you must buy one from one of the sellers on Pinside.

#11826 1 year ago
Quoted from John-Floyd:

To be clear, Stern is NOT sending these out to everyone. Just reached out them and the one that was made was a one-off and they have no official fix for the inner orbit yet. So if you want one now, you must buy one from one of the sellers on Pinside.

Yeah, Support replied back that it wasn't an "official" fix. I told them send it to me anyway. We'll see.

#11827 1 year ago

Remember when scoop protection dominated this forum? As mentioned, I have been a bit lazy in this regard....well actually time has been dominated with node board problems, but that is a different thread.... anyhow, after many, many months got the Ninja protectors installed. Looks great and should have done it long ago. Question: how has been the durability for those who installed way back? Thx

#11828 1 year ago
Quoted from gandamack:

Remember when scoop protection dominated this forum? As mentioned, I have been a bit lazy in this regard....well actually time has been dominated with node board problems, but that is a different thread.... anyhow, after many, many months got the Ninja protectors installed. Looks great and should have done it long ago. Question: how has been the durability for those who installed way back? Thx

The Ninja protectors Have been a success for Me.I would Buy them if you havent already.

#11829 1 year ago
Quoted from kool1:

It's definitely worth it - I just sold my LZ but the lights and music were the best part of that pin!

I heard from a dealer that Stern will NOT be making any expression lighting side blades for the Premiums/Pros as parts are no longer available. So getting the LZ kit may be a good idea before they are sold out completely. Not sure if the LZ kits were made in advance for any new LZ premiums coming off the line.

#11830 1 year ago

Hey

Stern called me about this

They are saying that they're investigating this still, and have identified a few possible problems, but do not have a definitive answer yet. They do not want to authorize parts at this time because there have been very very few cases of it being a motor itself, and they're investigating whether maybe it's a code problem or a wiring problem. We will investigate your game itself when you're able to bring it to the store, but unfortunately, until then there's nothing we can do Message received from my Distro about my Node-10 Failure issue with RUSH Premium.

#11831 1 year ago
Quoted from pinballjah:

I heard from a dealer that Stern will NOT be making any expression lighting side blades for the Premiums/Pros as parts are no longer available. So getting the LZ kit may be a good idea before they are sold out completely. Not sure if the LZ kits were made in advance for any new LZ premiums coming off the line.

That stinks. They really up the fun and game immersion.

#11832 1 year ago

I've already ordered the ninja expression kits for my pro and no Stern kits for sale ever?? This has to be a bad rumor.

Maybe if this is true, Someone can step up and copy the board and lights and make a small fortune.

#11833 1 year ago
Quoted from pinballjah:

I heard from a dealer that Stern will NOT be making any expression lighting side blades for the Premiums/Pros as parts are no longer available. So getting the LZ kit may be a good idea before they are sold out completely. Not sure if the LZ kits were made in advance for any new LZ premiums coming off the line.

Parts are NLA? That's fucked up right there.

So if something fails with my Expression Lighting on my LE, I should just pound sand? Said it before and I'll say it again, first and last Stern I will ever buy. This is a joke of a company and consumers would do well to steer clear of these shitbirds.

#11834 1 year ago
Quoted from Vespula:

I've already ordered the ninja expression kits for my pro and no Stern kits for sale ever?? This has to be a bad rumor.
Maybe if this is true, Someone can step up and copy the board and lights and make a small fortune.

Need more confirmation before we all jump off the cliff. But the lz ones looks just fine people are saying
.

#11835 1 year ago

Went to install a shaker motor for my Rush (Pro) and I'm not seeing any pre-drilled holes. Am I missing something?

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#11837 1 year ago
Quoted from Rexdeanrds:

Went to install a shaker motor for my Rush (Pro) and I'm not seeing any pre-drilled holes. Am I missing something?
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A drill ? ( sorry )

#11838 1 year ago
Quoted from John-Floyd:

To be clear, Stern is NOT sending these out to everyone. Just reached out them and the one that was made was a one-off and they have no official fix for the inner orbit yet. So if you want one now, you must buy one from one of the sellers on Pinside.

Same here, they told me to adjust my switch. I informed them I’ve done that many times. There needs to be a physical devise made that holds the ball down to register the switch.

Currently run an MRS switch which is wonderful for keeping stuck balls down to a minimum, but even it can’t register a rollover when the ball is a few MM over the switch.

#11839 1 year ago

Believe it or not Rush has the same symbols in the middle of the playfield that match the LZ expression lights/art work. Picking my LZ kit up tomorrow, tired of waiting!!!

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#11840 1 year ago
Quoted from MJK-911:

Believe it or not Rush has the same symbols in the middle of the playfield that match the LZ expression lights/art work. Picking my LZ kit up tomorrow, tired of waiting!!!
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Guess they were all smokin' the same stuff.

So I wonder can you use the top lights part from LZ and do something RUSH for the bottom half?
Or, can you do LZ, and then modify some Rush Art Blades and punch out holes for the lights and layer on top?

#11841 1 year ago
Quoted from Rexdeanrds:

Went to install a shaker motor for my Rush (Pro) and I'm not seeing any pre-drilled holes. Am I missing something?
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Thats definitely the right side and the correct side.
Looks like they forgot to drill your holes.
You can place the shaker there and use a Sharpie to mark the holes, I guess.
However, you will need some longer bolts and nuts or Tnuts or something because I believe they are also supposed to be pre-tapped with T-nuts from the factory to accept the shaker bolts.
Does it look clean and undrilled on the bottom also?

#11842 1 year ago
Quoted from Hayfarmer:

Need more confirmation before we all jump off the cliff. But the lz ones looks just fine people are saying
.

One of a few reasons I went for the LE from the get go. I knew getting aftermarket expression lighting for RUSH was going to be a pain in the ass and take forever….shame really - this game is almost a year old.

#11843 1 year ago
Quoted from John-Floyd:

One of a few reasons I went for the LE from the get go. I knew getting aftermarket expression lighting for RUSH was going to be a pain in the ass and take forever….shame really - this game is almost a year old.

Did the same,no regrets. No #10 issues either, I've been pretty lucky with Stern pins.

#11844 1 year ago
Quoted from Vespula:

Looks like they forgot to drill your holes.

The holes are there. I can see the outlines. Punch out the little bit of wood left in them from underneath, then screw down your shaker. Nearly every newer Stern has this same issue - the hole punch doesn't completely remove the leftover bit of wood.

#11845 1 year ago
Quoted from DiabloRush:

The holes are there. I can see the outlines. Punch out the little bit of wood left in them from underneath, then screw down your shaker. Nearly every newer Stern has this same issue - the hole punch doesn't completely remove the leftover bit of wood.

Man your eyes are good. I blew that pic up and thought I was seeing 1 but talked myself into it being a wood knot!
I did have to poke the wood out of mine but they were punched out enough to be clear and obvious they were there.

Good call.

#11846 1 year ago
Quoted from pinballjah:

I heard from a dealer that Stern will NOT be making any expression lighting side blades for the Premiums/Pros as parts are no longer available.

Wonder what parts aren't available? The LEDs are generic. So something on the node 2 board?

#11847 1 year ago
Quoted from Rexdeanrds:

Went to install a shaker motor for my Rush (Pro) and I'm not seeing any pre-drilled holes. Am I missing something?
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Look under the cab. Sometimes they kiss the inside so the hole doesn't poke through inside. You should see the T-nuts installed underneath.

Then again, they could have forgotten to drill and T-nut yours...

#11848 1 year ago
Quoted from gandamack:

Has anybody installed the Myth Pinball speaker light kit. I watched the video for the Iron Maiden machine (which was impressive), just curious how it looks on the Rush machine.

If you have or are planning on getting the Expression lighting from Stern and don't mind doing the 5.25" speaker upgrade if you do not already have 5.25" speakers, I would hold out to do that and get the Ninja Camp Expressive speaker lights. They really add to the effect of the factory Expression lights and combined, make a powerful interactive light and sound experience.

If you are just wanting some great looking speaker lights that light the entire grill area (and you are not looking for switchable flame colors), I would get my Deluxe SPIKE 2 Speaker Light Kit. It has individually addressable LEDs, 358 different color / color transition patterns (8 of which can be saved on a DIY / favorites list for easy access or auto switching), all at a lower price ($85).

Except for the instances I just mentioned (Expression lighting or wanting switchable flame colors) if you are looking for a fully lit grill type, SPIKE 2 speaker light kit with the most available options, my Deluxe SPIKE 2 Speaker Light Kits have that covered.

Doug (SpeakerLightKits.com)

#11849 1 year ago
Quoted from Hayfarmer:

Need more confirmation before we all jump off the cliff. But the lz ones looks just fine people are saying
.

I agree, it be good if some other dealers could confirm either way.

#11850 1 year ago
Quoted from benime:Parts are NLA? That's fucked up right there.
So if something fails with my Expression Lighting on my LE, I should just pound sand? Said it before and I'll say it again, first and last Stern I will ever buy. This is a joke of a company and consumers would do well to steer clear of these shitbirds.

Couldn't agree more. My last Stern. They screwed over the Premium buyers with no Expression lights, charged us more than what LZ was with the lights, had to buy the Ninja Mod to keep my slightly planked playfield from getting messed up and now I have my clock and ramp off to keep the Node 10 board from blowing. GARBAGE!!!!

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