Happened to me too. I used 3M spray mount. Just give the back of the sticker a spray, wait about 30 seconds and press back in place. Mine has stayed in place just fine after that.

I believe that was disabled with latest code release, go back and read through the Read Me file for the update. I’m not 100% positive without looking, but I know it’s mentioned a few pages back.

This is the new default. I don't love it, but it is what it is. I don't know if there's a setting to change this behavior.

I totally agree. I wish Stern would put in an adjustment setting...skill shot on/off.

This isn't related to the skillshot though, it's just related to the auto plunge. A lot of people were complaining in the past about how the game kept auto plunging them as soon as the plunge rattled/etc. Having a setting to not disable the skillshot after hitting the switch twice would be nice, but it's a separate issue.

What's weird about the post .98 behavior is that after you take your manual plunger shot, even if you get the ball onto the playfield, the auto plunger weapon button stays lit for a way longer time than necessary. It was confusing the first few times I played after the update and it's still a little weird now that I'm used to the behavior.

This is an intentional feature change. I don't think there is an adjustment for it. You could always send RayDay a PM, and get confirmation. He posted in this thread a few pages back. So he might respond.

LOL. That got us posting. By the time I sent my answer 4 other people had too. Whoops!

Haha! Thanks everybody. You are all awesome.

The new software seems to have a bad bug with the freewill add a ball limit - it never seems to reset the counter! You can start a fresh game and start freewill multiball and not be eligable for any add-a-balls despite not having any previously due to counter being left from a previous game.

I’ve emailed [email protected] but if there is a better place please let me know.

Look at standard option #79 to turn off the tilt when the coin door is open. Will help you clear a lot of stuck balls without removing the bar and glass.

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Interesting, but wouldn't it just be more sensible for the code to (automatically) disable tilt coincident with a "ball search" kicking in? (and re-enbale tilt once the ball(s) is found).

I believe the rationale is that ops might not want people being able to tilt the machine to clear a stuck ball, so it's left as an adjustment for people to choose how they want to handle it.

I posted this before, but thought the Ninja Camp mod would solve it, and since it didn't, I'll try posting again to see if anyone has had this issue.

When I do a full plunge, or auto plunge, roughly 60% of the time the ball gets hung up by hitting the exit side of the spinner shot. In other words, it hits that area, deadens, and drops to the upper flipper. It's nice that my game is trying to help me even more with the skill shot, but ultimately it's annoying as it shouldn't be doing this.

I tried the Ninja mod in the shooter lane, but that had no effect. I think b/c that's designed for "shooter lane rattle" or whatever, but that doesn't seem to be my issue. The ball seems to move through the shooter lane smoothly. The only issue is when it exits it and hits that area I described above, rather than smoothly going around the orbit.

It's also not the plunger itself, as the auto plunge has the same effect.

Ultimately, I think I'll have to set up a slow-mo video of it, but before I go through that hassle, I figured I'd check to see if anyone else has and solved this issue, thanks!

The first thing I would think is you aren't getting a clean plunge, free of rattling. This seems to be a common issue on Rush. I had to completely reposition my shooter housing and mess with the forks to make it clean. If the ball isn't rattling before it exits, the shooter lane, I'd suspect that the spinner lane guide rail needs to be adjusted. Seems like it may be too proud and interfering with the ball path. Do you ever have issues hitting the right orbit and having the spinner ball guide cause a slow down or reject?

This may be it. Sometimes a right orbit shot isn't clean either.

So you're thinking I should bend that spinner rail guide a bit inwards towards the playfield, so it doesn't protrude as much?

Yes, I think maybe the area in red needs to go left a bit. Might be as simple as loosening the nuts underneath and pushing it over, then tighten back up.

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Weird.... Take a look at my pic. That's what it's hitting (I can even see ball marks on it).

I can't even see that piece in your pic!

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I wonder if you have some sort of deformity in or around the circled area that's deflecting the ball into the rail. I think you just didn't see the rail in the previous photo because of the angle and low lighting, but it's there and you can see it here. The only other thing I could think of is that the rail may be "leaning" to the right, causing it to interfere, but it doesn't look to be in your photo. That rail isn't bolted under the playfield like the metal ball guide in front of it, so the loosen-and-scoot trick won't work here. If it's bent right, you'll need to bend it to the left with physical pressure directly on the rail in the leftward direction, but that'll be a really tricky spot to work in.

But yeah, this isn't something our shooter lane fix will resolve. That part was intended to address the ball rattling in the lane as it goes past the upper flipper gap, which messes up your skill shot.

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Thanks for the pic!

I think I'll have to follow through on the slow-mo capture to see exactly what's going on in my game...

I'll take a pic of the circled area on mine and will post shortly.

Not the greatest pic, but I'm struggling to see any issues. What do you guys think?

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Actually, it looks like the rail is extending out farther in mine pic, after it exits the shooter lane!

1) Should I "fix" this?
2) If so, what's the best method?

make sure the screw holding the shooter lane ramp is down and no issues with the transition over the ball guide. Your slow-mo will show how the ball is not leaving the shooter lane cleanly. Something is pushing it left...

Hoping the RUSH topper and official shooter knob come to fruition soon. Been far too long.

When you say "the rail"... which rail are you referring to? When I compare your pic to mine, things look pretty similar. Getting the slow-mo will definitely help.

This seems like a design flaw to me, happens on my machine as well when soft plunging. The angle at the end of the shooter lane where the ball drops onto the pf is just too drastic and pushes slow rolling balls to the left.

I'm talking about the far right rail guide. You can see on yours, how it's further away from the black painted outline. Mine pretty much hugs it. So there's more room to the far right on yours, then on mine.

Hopefully that makes sense.

Damn Nick, sorry your Rush is being such a pain for you. Thousand plays on mine and the only issues I have had are shooter lane rattle and the inner loop not registering. Both of which were easily and cheaply fixed thanks to 3rd party modders.

I feel bad for you son. Seems like Stern is out to get you!

Ooooh, you're talking about this...

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Yeah, that's definitely different than mine... yours being pushed to the left a little more, which could in turn be pushing the ball into that rail to the left of the lane. You *could* try loosening up the nut under the rail bolt at the bottom of that image, along with the one further up from it, as well as the screws holding the black side rail and see if they can be scooted over slightly and resecured, but I'm skeptical if it'll make much difference. Still, it's something you can try... Meantime, I'll ponder what else might help.

I had similar issue with one of the stickers located on one of the targets near the right ramp.

same here - fell onto the playfield - got it back on but I need to get a replacement somehow as its not going to last.

Trivial to add a setting called "Disable tilt coincident with ball search", which would default to "off" for ops. Done. No need to fiddle with the coin door.

Here's some vids I took. I can try for different angles if it's not helpful:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KYLqWqdC6YiISJIhJ_Rk_Vv0kQF6zJTd/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KaAizB-0j6lB6ZEoAI1Vdk9NGXFVrnCU/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KfTh1kGwmhr58uWdPoTSky-a7_pHt17D/view?usp=sharing

Hopefully you guys will catch something that I'm missing...

On the top vid, it looks like the ball goes left, right, then left again really quick and ends up hitting that ball guide rail. Looked like it went left as soon as it left the shooter ramp, so that may the cause of the initial leftness. Slow-mo would give a better look. I wonder if the ball is hitting that screw head on the shooter ramp?

I was wondering about the screw. It super tight and seems OK, but I can try to back it out then tighten again. I'd be so lucky if it's just that.

You should be able to slow-mo the videos in the settings tool....when I look at it, it does turn sharp left.

Thanks for taking a look!

I screwed the shooter ramp down *maybe* a little lower and removed the Ninja Camp mod. *Seems* to be a little better. That may be as good as it gets for me.

Hey Nick - thank you for the objective review on the Bro podcast. Good listen.
Nice to see you are high on the game but also pretty balanced given the issues you’ve had.
Really curious how having a GZ and Rush in the house impacts your feelings on both games down the line.

I'm not convinced it’s the screw since you said the right orbit shot has the issue as well at times. I can empathize since my game has the same issue. Auto plunges never experience the problem for me. Manual plunges hang up about 50% of the time. Same with right orbit shots which is extremely annoying. I was convinced that the issue was the angle at which the ball was hitting the switch actuator so I replaced that one with an MRS (which was quite the saga in and of itself), but that did not solve the issue either. To me it feels like something about the intersection of the guide and the rail as shown in the pic in post #8819. But, maybe my issue only sounds the same as yours and the screw really did fix it for you. If so, that’s great - not having that shot be smooth really detracts from the enjoyment thanks to the number of right orbit rejects I get due to whatever is causing it.

Kyle

Rush fans! Check out the South Park 25th Anniversary Concert on Paramount+. Alex & Geddy show up and play Closer To The Heart with Matt, Trey & Primus!!!!

That concert is so hard for me to watch. The facial expressions of those people trying to sing those songs in those voices is ridiculous. Not so much referring to the Rush content but the other stuff like Kyle's Mom is a big fat bitch. ugh

I saw it and loved it. Ged sounded as good as Ged can sound - I just love seeing him out and about. Alex may have partaken ahead of time, or maybe he's feeling the rust a bit - he seemed a touch behind. But - he looked like he was having fun and at this point, that's all I want out of them. Anyone expecting album perfection after 40+ years will be forever disappointed - anyone wanting to see two buds having fun will always have a good time watching them.

Speaking for the whole concert - loved it too. Matt and Trey are so insanely talented. Made me really start considering some of those $3k-4k South Park that have been popping up in the market recently.

Closer to Southpark!!

I was just happy to see the boys play together.

Where can i find a list of the weapon perks for completing a certain album’s combo?

http://tiltforums.com/t/stern-rush-rulesheet/7409#heading--albums

Found this beautiful owl statue at an estate sale this morning. May see how it works as a topper. Has two broken wingtip feathers, might be able to 3D print little tips to make it not as noticeable.

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A slower playback speed isn't the same thing as a slow motion video. Slow motion video will have a much higher frames per second rate so the details of what's happening can be seen. Also, it should be a close up of the area where it's happening. Anyways, if you can capture that, it should help to pin the problem down.

Is the shooter lane fix for Rush basically when you soft plunge it and it jostles around coming out of the shooter lane? I only have this problem if I shot it up the lane and it does not make all the way onto the pf, then I shoot it again too quickly without it settling back in the lane.

Not sure if the NC fix, fixes this or not?

Yes, our shooter lane fix is for the issue where the ball rattles around when you soft plunge and it gets to the upper flipper gap. It guides the ball to the right so it rolls past the flipper gap smoothly.

Nice. That's what folks mean by Stern leading the way in code and choreography, really shows it in Rush and GZ.