Yeah, but you might just be an ambulance chaser with an expansive vocabulary trying to impress pinball collectors.

Then you being the lawyer you claim to be made the very easy mistake of glossing over the fact that my statement was you "might be". Fact is, I never called you anything. But I figured just the assimilation of "ambulance chaser" would raise a hair or two on your neck. It appears I was 100% spot on, your diatribe of a rebuttal proves as such.

Sir , I live in fear of no one, so the thought of feeling threatened by you is highly doubtful, actually quite comical. That comment actually paints you as possibly having an inferiority complex. You really do paint a wonderful picture of yourself on a pedestal. I congratulate you on the ability to pat yourself on the back.

The bottom line here is your help with explaining the law with the many questions or assumptions on here with JPop & Kevin is actually quite welcomed. However, we don't need a soap box performance of explanation to stroke your ego every single time. We get it, you have an expansive stable of highly intellectual words you just can't wait to exploit. The problem is it comes off unintentionally as you being quite pompous.

And sorry, I gave up putting trading cards in my bicycle spokes when I was 12.

Um it's Sunday night? Unless of course you mean a MNF pin!

Sorry, but in my book, this neighbor would have an unfortunate accident. Like mistaking his knee or his hand for a baseball.

After reading everything this is the most rational overview I can come up with:

Kevin K. - Thief. He tried to play the "I am not going to get caught not having a license game" and lost. He took everyone's money anyway. Whether he knew or not that he would never be able to produce 250 games, I cannot be sure. But it would be one hell of of a charade to go through the prototype process he did, have that working prototype at Expo(that I did play), just to take money with the intention to produce nothing. It's no defense, he lied about everything, he is a criminal and needs to see cement & bars.

Anonymous - They did what anyone "could" have done but didn't. They get props for that. However, they served this up on a silver platter to FOX and their legal team. Once they got the message that there was no license, they were under NO legal obligation to keep this quiet. That was their own choice. FOX told us not to say anything is lame. Whatever the reason was, it went to Pinball News, and that's what they did. If there were ulterior motives(Whysnow's claim) for non/delayed disclosure, then that would be a completely shitty move. That being said, anonymous is NOT the responsible party as to why any of the Skit B buyers did not get a machine. If you want to tell yourself you could have gotten a machine if anonymous didn't get involved, I have some old Showtime Pizza stock I would like to sell you. They blew the cover off of the inevitable and 100% of your anger needs to be with Kevin. I know if I pay for something and deadlines are missed, I keep digging until I find answers for myself.

Who cares what they(FOX) wanted, Anonymous had already served this to them on a silver platter. There was no court directed gag order.

Again, if it were me? I would have been pursuing every avenue to get MY money back 1st, then I would have shared ALL the evidence.

Water under the bridge at this point. It's all about getting Kevin put in jail and seeing if any of the money can be recovered. I would bet, unlike Jpop, there was a receipt for every payment. Whether any of that has been destroyed or "lost" at this point is probably the real question.

I don't have a horse in this race, I never liked the theme, never got caught up in the hoopla, and did not like the prototype. But for the sake of the pinball community, Kevin is pure trash and needs to pay for his actions.

Another case of I am not sure why this guy hasn't met any "street justice".

I think you might be off base. I believe there are plenty of people who think the same way but are too afraid to say it because of today's sterilized society. I expressed my point of view , and there is nothing wrong with that. If someone acts upon my point of view that is their problem, not mine. If I tell someone to go do some street justice, then I have a problem.

I am not testing any boundaries. I simply said I don't understand WHY this guy hasn't met any street justice. That is completely different than me prompting for someone to go out and harm the guy.

For Pete's sake, will some of you get off of this politically correct and don't offend anyone bandwagon. I don't live with my head in the sand or with blinders. I speak as how I see it.

Please spare me of the "testing the boundaries" crap.

Who died and made you a member of the Mod team? Are you the fucking hall monitor now?

I am not hinting at anything that COULD befall Kevin! I came right out and said I am surprised it HASN'T happened. BIG difference. That's NOT an advocation. Next time use a little more reading comprehension skill before you want to play tattle tales.

My problem? That's real good since YOU are the one causing the fictitious issue here.

So if they divorced they are still brother & sister? Jeez, I only thought that happened in Arkansas and Mississippi!
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I have to agree with you. If not Tim, someone close to the situation. Someone doesn't just come in cold(July 2016) on this type of situation and starts defending certain positions.

Look, you got people here with lit torches and pitchforks that do not care who gets taken down along with Kevin, as long as the main one is Kevin. Everything is questionable, and rightfully so. There seems to be plenty of "dirty" transactions that go hand in hand with Kevin. That's what lawyers and courts are for. If there is dirty pool, then everyone should have to tread water in the deep end, including Tim.

AG did that, and it's exactly as I would do if I went through all the trouble to find out the answers. However, I would not have withheld that info once I got my money back. It does seem like there was an intentional delay. Fox's "keep this quiet" request to AG is just that, a request(a bullshit one too). There was ZERO gag order issued from a court or any legal system.

The second I had gotten my money back I would have hit RGP & Pinside with the news. Not an investigating "pinball reporter".

The writing is on the wall here. 100% Kevin is going to play the "I can't contact my attorney" card. The court will hold Kevin in custody and then subpoena Kevin's attorney and demand any and all paperwork Kevin has submitted to him. Truth will come out that Kevin doesn't have shit for records.

Wow, talk about hanging your own noose.

I listened to this again a little while ago. Kevin knows exactly what he is doing. My new guess is he will show up next with a new legal counsel that is going to ask the court for an extension to help Kevin get his paperwork "in order" . He will argue that Kevin was misrepresented by his former lawyer. All stall tactics, but it could work especially if the judge feels this is remotely possible.

This is my thoughts exactly. Who the hell knows how many machines were sold. Especially, if just like Jpop, he knew the jig was up and kept selling anyway. The math to 1.2 million does not add up unless all 250 were paid in full and ZERO refunds were issued. We know 100% that did not happen. You want paperwork? Yeah, that napkin went out with the weekly trash.

Your request is funny, but has no place in this matter. This is serious shit, it's not some BS frivolous lawsuit or my Cousin Vinny.

Well hey, at least you didn't down vote me like my posting skip tracer Cornelius did !

Doesn't this make it easier for Kevin to just disappear?

Tell that to the telemarketer that calls at 6pm in the evening!

Being pushed out by our favorite show organizer?

Look, you guys are all being a little bit HARSH on Kevin. If Kevin says all the money was spent towards Predator, then we should give him the benefit of the doubt.

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And the dominoes are falling......

I would be quite surprised if the Judge doesn't award Keith 100% due to all the non-compliance on Kevin's part.

Just listened to this, very disappointed the next meeting is not at the courthouse.

Over/Under on Kevin showing up on the 17th? I believe this is where shit hits the fan.

As much shit as I have given you, the least I can do is thank you for doing this. I enjoy the pure entertainment value here and want to see this ass rot for stealing everyone's Predator money.

Maybe Keith will be good enough to record the meeting.

Anal litigation?

Agreed. From someone who claimed to be SO innocent, then never answers a subpoena that pertains to his exact claimed innocence, is quite fishy and telling.

I don't know, but I now put Kevin showing up to his court ordered meeting on the 17th at 5 to 1 AGAINST!

only if you tell us where his routed games are!

I WAnt tO wElcum yOU aLl to tHE 2017 PinbAll EXpo

Is there really much difference?

Anything to do with the "Dangerous" IP?

I have a fake review on Yelp for my shop from someone I have never done work for. It was a walk in solicitor that tried to get me to sign up for B.S. yellow pages and online listings. She forged my signature on a contract and sent it in. I caught her red handed and called her corporate offices. Imagine to my surprise the next day I had a one star review from some guy named "Max". This Max also left a one star review for another business which I decided to call and we were both solicited by this same woman. Gee, put 2 + 2 together. Yelp refuses to remove it unless I sign up for their crap. No way...forget it!

Oh know my Dad back in the day had 2 books......

Not too much to opine about when it becomes obvious that they got caught being full of shit.

I just want to know if he showed up. Otherwise we all know how this is going to go...Well, I already gave you everything I had. IP for Dangerous? Oh, I don't have any of that stuff either, it was all a handshake deal, I paid cash.

Nothing here either....

http://www.michigan.gov/corrections/0,4551,7-119-9741_12798-201927--,00.html

https://www.bop.gov/inmateloc/

Which means when this is all said and done, there may be very little left for Predator buyers. I would also wonder if anything is recovered wouldn't FOX want it or want it destroyed?

Kevin probably went to go live with his father....

BULLSHIT. You cannot walk into a police department brandishing a weapon/rifle. That's not "open carry".

I own guns, I am licensed. But not for one second am I stupid enough to walk into a police department brandishing a gun, open carry or not.

Very generally, however, for an operating definition “brandishing” means to display, show, wave, or exhibit the firearm in a manner which another person might find threatening. The police found the actions of those 2 morons threatening. A normal person immediately lays the firearm down at the command of an officer of the law. Go ahead and defend that open carry with three rounds up your ass and 6 feet under. No thanks.

More of an order than a comment?

Oops, that was supposed to be a ! not a ? ...... no wonder I got all the thumbs down!

Or wears the strap on........

Which ones?

Not sure how you have concluded AP are con artists

Ok, I read it incorrectly. Makes much more sense.

Love and good intentions do no pay the bills to raise a large family.

That just made me spit my coffee!

Just can't see how the Judge could be buying any of this bullshit by Amanda Kulek. The paper trail that Keith has provided, without any doubt, proves that she and Kevin knew exactly what they were doing and where the money came from by removing him from the purchase of the home. They funneled everything from the Skit-B accounts and tried to cover it up. The bullshit statements that she is not her husband and she and her husband are of two mates that live separate lives clearly demonstrates that they are indeed two peas in a pod. The lies, the deception, the roles of playing stupid, the defiant acts of playing naive, are being role played by the both of them. No lawyer in their right mind would touch her case. Admitting fraud against the state as a plausible cover up their acts of consumer fraud? How fucking stupid can one be?

And finally, at the deposition in Keith's office, Kevin admits there was NEVER a license, ever! The rotten S.O.B. puts out cash calls for balances due AFTER C&D's were issued and received. All of you that point at the whistle blowers as the reason you never got a game are completely out of your goddamn mind. It was obvious very early on to Kevin that a game was never going to be produced, but the charade continued. He made sure he harvested every last dollar he could and only refunded the guys he thought would cause too much problem.

The FREE lunch is over for both of them. They both deserve to lose EVERYTHING they have including the home, her business, the "gifted RV" , and every other asset or dollar that can be turned up. The losers are the kids and hopefully they have relatives that can take care of them until their parents can pay their debt(s) to the State of Michigan, SkitB customers, and the rest of society. If Kevin can build a pinball machine, he sure as hell can make some license plates too!

Agreed, there is no doubt in my mind that the judge will eventually award all the assets, including the house, to the estate. But these two complete morons have opened themselves up to criminal charges in the process. I would have to assume on both State and Federal levels.

If and when charges are brought against them, the public defenders office will get these two clowns to defend. As the Judge told Kevin, may god have mercy on your souls.

Tax returns and 1099G would not be hearsay

All legal speak aside....the Kulek's are f*cked!

Unless coerced.

I honestly can't believe he hasn't tried to disappear yet. Probably too stupid to do that too.

No, as I recall I think I just called YOU an ambulance chaser!

But let's not bring up the past.....

Let me fix that for you...they LiED ABOUT separate lives!

I do because the vernacular is spectacular! OK, I will just stop right there.

I can only assume this is at $1900 per because of the set up and machinery purchases that were involved. Which leads me to the next question as to why someone with existing equipment wasn't contacted for these cabinets?

Or, are we putting a friend who makes multi-game cabinets in business?

Good gawd, this is like a bad Sunday night made for TV movie of Perry Mason meets the Jerry Springer Show.

Moderators have handled it already. Your opinion does not determine the virtues and values of Pinside. It was a South Park episode that some did find quite amusing.

Sorry, Pinside is not your personal safe zone.

You should probably throw all of your TV's out and leave the internet.

I'm offended, he's offended, wouldn't you like to be offended too?

Knock this shit off already.

At this point she might as well have said the money came from the mattress and her underwear drawer.

She done got the whole buff-ette with mashed potaters

And since they read this, they are now on to Pinside that we know it may possibly be them selling this stuff. This all needs to be forwarded to Keith and let them handle it.

What if you want marinara?

I don't believe we will see KeithinMI post anything case related until this is all over.

Maybe he could hurry up and get the license on the "new" Predator?

Holy Shit she is loony tune delusional !!! Her accusations are pathetically hilarious!

This is only 8 minutes in!

Let me a add a bold face liar! There was never 250 Predators sold? BULLSHIT!

I can't believe that she is that damn stupid to make the claim she bought that trailer for $250! She now has to prove that in a court of law! What a frickin liar.

I am sure Keith has it under his buckle on how to disprove that. I think it would be very easy.

They are all criminals. The only one admitting it is Amanda, she was smart enough to settle the estate issue. An innocent person does not just hand over $30K to the courts/trustees.

Oh, as in 1% of the purchase price? Nah, I believe the 250 was a flat fee.

I laughed out loud when she said that.

If the judge read all of this, he would probably have to remove himself from the case.

No one seems to be in poor health on this recent photo.

Amanda Kulek's facebook is NOT closed and has pictures of her kids, the pirate, and everyone else. SO this boo hoo bullshit about innocent kids in pictures on the internet are pure horseshit.

The DOG?!?!? LMFAO!!!

OK, what IF.....Kevin took $25K to purchase the trailer? Let's just say he paid $5K for it and took the other $20K for a steak dinner and a heavy night or two at the casinos?

In layman's terms she is outright bullshitting.

Here , I don't want to hijack the thread, but here is a prime example of how society no longer takes responsibility for their actions. I belong to a local Facebook group for my community. One of the members posted a picture(below) and captioned it with "What a jerk, I had to move my car up so I could load my stuff in the back!" She is the driver of the white Scion XB. She backed into the parking spot and left enough room so she could load. When she got back, she saw that the owner of the Expedition had parked 2 feet over the line and her efforts to make it easy to load and leave were now fruitless.

You would not believe the people who blamed her and called it her own fault because she backed into the spot. Really? About half said it was illegal to park that way, some said it was rude to park that way, some just said it's stupid to park that way and she caused her own problems. The other half said yeah, Expedition driver was careless and rude. I still shake my head in disbelief! What I don't understand is how people think they are smart to defend and point fingers the other way when something is so blatantly and factually wrong? I really believe it's the art of distraction and this what society has become. It's everyone else's fault, don't blame ME or facts for what I did!

Kathy Kulek believes she can take the heat off of herself by creating alternate facts about everyone else involved. See, they are the real bad people, not me, not my grandson. What we did is nothing compared to THESE people who a ruining our lives because they are trying to hold us responsible!

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What I really don't understand is the efforts to repair/rebuild. The house is in a serious flood plain, it should be condemned and demolished. There is ZERO value now. The trustees can kiss that $30K goodbye, a loan for that mold ridden roach motel isn't going to happen, ever. The only thing I could think of is some sort of government grant for a natural disaster. They paid cash for the house, so I have to believe the term "what insurance" is going to apply in this scenario. Just like "yeah, we have a license to produce a Predator Pinball".

Where the heck is Kevin in all of this?

Be careful....this "disaster" could lead to sympathy in the eyes of the court.

I just looked, it's still there and edited. Predator was misspelled. Everyone should go there and give it a thumbs up! LMAO!

https://www.youcaring.com/amandakulek-860164

Not going to do any good. The Kuleks have not been convicted of anything.

That's NOT money in Kulek's possession. Everything that Kevin had, unless a physical asset, is gone to another party, casino, trailer, boat house, stripper, Mom, the kids, the dog, and so on.

New plans for the "Flying Dutchman"

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