Same thing. I asked for refund too about two weeks ago and nothing.
Maybe we should start another thread with who requested refund and got nothing? Or put "scam" in the title. That seemed to get the other guy refund pretty quick
Quoted from Kcpinballfan:
Did you get a response at all? Or did they just go unanswered?
I got a response about two weeks ago from support.
We will begin the refund process immediately. Please allow a few days as
this process does take some time.
Since then, nothing. I sent another email last week asking them (both Support and Kevin), how much longer going to be a few days. Didn't get any response so far.
I understand that will take time and is not instant. But, the answer from support came 2-3days after I asked. And if they say a few days, and not a few weeks or a few months, then is a few days. They know what they are talking about, right? I mean I hope they do. And I think I'm past a few days here.
Quoted from badbilly27:
I would expect a longer wait on the refund front. My assumption is they spent most if not all of the money on parts to assemble the games per SkitB email. There is likely no money to facilitate a refund at this time. Once they start shipping and request final payment then you'll likely get a refund - but you're looking a few months out (only my guess).
I wonder if there still is a waiting list. And if there is, I don't think Skit B wants to mess around with collecting money, refunding money, writing checks for more parts they missed, and hoping they keep all checks & balances in order. It's all a big distraction for a small shop. Thus, part of why I think they are going a little dark. Kick out a few games to first 10 owners and then everyone will get the "exclusive 250 & Predator" fever again. Bet on people who asked for a refund will opt now to stay in instead of admin processing nightmare. Educated guess on my part - no facts.
Not saying this is right since they stated a return policy that should allow for your money back now. I'm just guessing reality is setting in and different than they expected.
Again.. if "firstname.lastname@example.org" says a few days... I expect to be a few days.
If there is no money for a refund in a few days, someone is hiding something. And trying to lie about it. And I don't want to go there with my assumptions yet.
Same. lol.. just like magic! Got the full refund too. I hope one day to find a Pred in the wild
I'm one of those, if you tell me 5 days, I wont bother you 5 days but I expect to be done in 5. Or if is 5 months, I wont bother you 5 months...
And yes, all my emails included name/prod#/game#.
Quoted from Dalbok:
For what it's worth, I was paid in full at the end of last year (initial $250, plus remaining $4500 in one lump sum, all through PayPal). I decided to back out (for personal reasons) back in late Spring. I got an email back (from Kevin) the next day stating that I'd see a refund in a matter of days. There were some additional communications over the course of the next month and a half. Everything remained cordial and I ended up getting my refund (through PayPal), but 42 days later.
I mention all of this, because what Kevin ended up explaining to me was that they had a "special" agreement setup with PayPal in using their services. This allowed them to refund the full amount (even though it was beyond the 60 day PayPal policy). But because of this they had to go through a separate (and seemingly more time consuming process) to refund the money. I ended up receiving two separate refunds from PayPal (one for each transaction, $250 and $4500). The nice thing was that I was refunded the complete amount where as I thought the processing fees would have been lost. In the end, I received my refund and I was happier because I didn't lose the $ for the PayPal processing fees.
Just thought I'd pass along that info to possibly relieve some angst from other seeking to get their refund. It may be taking a little extra time to process the refunds due to the "special" process they have to follow, but the good news is you should get back the full amount regardless of the PayPal 60 day return policy.
I guess that's just an extra step he's taken to look out for his customers (even the ones that back out).
My refund came exactly like yours. one $4500 and one $250. And I'm happy about that. It's exactly like Kevin said when I got on board of this project. 100% refundable.
I did not know about the way and time it takes for them to issue the PayPal refund. So I went by what "Support@skitbpinball" was telling me.
This again proves that a little communication, would have saved a lot of headaches. For many, not just me.
Quoted from rommy:
Kevin said the license was fine.
that was loooooooooooong time ago... this may be changed by now. Some licensing are time limited.
Dunno why so hard to SkitB to hop on Pinside, post some answers like they did before, and calm down everyone. Unless there's something wrong?
Look at your emails received from SkitB. Doesn't say "Predator" anywhere. It's "your game" or "project". I still have them all.
Don't like Pinside, post it on your twitter, on your fb, something... anything. Not having time is not an excuse when you get the time to do exactly the opposite and remove any mentioning of "Predator" from everywhere.
I don't know how come no one got in the car and drive to his house yet and ask a few questions yet?(politely, non violent). Is he really that far away from everybody?
I think this should have been done before going all nuts with police and fbi... wtf
I really think Kevin, DID want to build 250 Predators, and not screw around with 250 people heads.
He did just not knew how to manage this whole thing, what is involved on building these to be able to sell them all over the world.
IMO, if he would have asked for help (dunno if he did or not) managing this (license, certifications, etc..), he could have found a couple of guys/girls that could help him to get this done. Just look how many people in here know about stuff that went wrong! Same guys could have helped him to make it work.
ATM seems that the license is not there... so no machines will be built no matter what. He could have all the parts in the world already done( cabs, playfields, mechs, plastics, etc), but if there is no license for Predator and if he build and sell them he will go to jail. Simple as that.
I think people that know people that know about this licensing should get in touch with Kevin and try to secure this, or that it. Everyone loose. No one will see all their $$$ back. There is no way he can give all back. Some were spent already. Worst case for Kevin, he would go to jail and you still wont see the money back.
So get in touch with Kevin and help him secure that license to build Predators, if you want to see your investment back.
LOL.. who cares about Upvoting or Downvoting? Did Skit-B started those swiftly refunds?
Quoted from Perspex:
Also interesting, the exchange rate is an older rate ala June '14. Makes sense, I was wondering how that would work.
At least that is how it was for me when I got the refund(not now... some time ago...)
Quoted from multibrawlr:
Thanks. Probably should've waited a while before posting.
Oh, so he WAS making duplicate accounts. Alright. Just wanted to make sure.
The reason why I asked was because, just recently, I had an exchange with Tim on Facebook. A friend who I will not name -- in respect of his privacy -- had a picture of a Predator machine on his account from Feburary. I asked if it was his, and -- if it was -- why he had it when he could potentially get in trouble with Fox (or at least face the wrath of pre-orders, though I forgot to add that in my initial response).
My friend went on there and said it wasn't his, but he believed it to be a preproduction model running on a Windows? Then someone on there accused Tim Fife, who then appeared and went on to explain his stance regarding owning the game. He wasn't that combative or mean, I don't believe, but he was very vocal about his point and wasn't to be convinced otherwise.
I did take a bunch of screenshots, though I have yet to file through them and cross out certain names. But I do have them, and I was just wondering if everyone was cool with me posting the exchange? If not-- it's ok. Just don't want to get in trouble or add more fuel to the fire but I wanted to contribute, and I didn't know if any or all of the pre-orders knew this exchange was going on...
IMO don't get involved in this if you did not lose money with Skit-b.
Also watch out for Whysnow ...
Quoted from RobT:
How many people kept their money invested in Skit-B based on Whysnow's overbearing declarations of confidence in Skit-B, while slamming any and all posters who questioned the viability of Skit-B and whether there was a license, or whether the pin would ever be delivered?
THIS ... fuckin nailed it man!
Quoted from Whysnow:
If someone wants to piece together some of the people involved behind the scenes, it is pretty easy to see by going through the history of who originally ordered Predator and yet does not show up on the published list of people owed money in the bankruptcy.
Not surprising, some of those people have largely disappeared from the forum post the implosion. Others are amazingly still hanging around and think they are clean I presume.
Watch your mouth pretty boy. Easy with the accusations
So beside the 2-3 pages of soda/pop garbage, what is going on with the proceedings against Kevin and the rest?
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